Difference in AIs
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Bnatural
AX Product Specialist
Most of the products listed above actually fall into different categories, each look to modulate estrogen in some form by boosting T levels and lowering E levels.
Formex and Formestane are both suicide inhibitors.
Aromatase Inhibitors aim to completely block and eliminate estrogen in the system.
ATD does not eliminate estrogen but tends to modulate it, and help simultaneously raise testosterone levels.
The above is more of a brief summary. Theres substantial depth to each and a quick google search will give quite a bit of info and more in depth summaries.
Formex and Formestane are both suicide inhibitors.
Aromatase Inhibitors aim to completely block and eliminate estrogen in the system.
ATD does not eliminate estrogen but tends to modulate it, and help simultaneously raise testosterone levels.
The above is more of a brief summary. Theres substantial depth to each and a quick google search will give quite a bit of info and more in depth summaries.
Beejis60
Member
atd is a suicide inhibitor too
Enjineer
Member
You say in your 6-bromo controversies section that there is potential for anabolic isomers... im a ratard, what does this mean?
celc5
Well-known member
B,
I think you got this already, but all the otc AI's are suicide inhibitors just to clarify. The nice thing about the otc AI's is that none of them eradicate estrogen... even exemestane, which steps it up a notch, blocks something like 40-60% based on your info source. Form is very similar to exem theoretically, so I'm sure it's on the lower end... maybe 25-50% range would be my guess.
Enj,
I suck at chemistry so bear with my explanation. Long story short, an isomer is a slight variation. IMO the controversy was waaay overstated, but worth mentioning at the time since it was a hot topic.
I think you got this already, but all the otc AI's are suicide inhibitors just to clarify. The nice thing about the otc AI's is that none of them eradicate estrogen... even exemestane, which steps it up a notch, blocks something like 40-60% based on your info source. Form is very similar to exem theoretically, so I'm sure it's on the lower end... maybe 25-50% range would be my guess.
Enj,
I suck at chemistry so bear with my explanation. Long story short, an isomer is a slight variation. IMO the controversy was waaay overstated, but worth mentioning at the time since it was a hot topic.
Beejis60
Member
You're correct about OTC AIs. IIRC, most to all script AIs are competitive inhibitors.
An isomer is a chemical variation, in lehmans terms, to the "real thing". Usually either a different olefin geometry (cis vs. trans isomers) or stereochemical isomers (enantiomers, diastereomers, epimers, etc). Even though the change is very slight, the molecule becomes, essentially, 100% different even though the real thing vs. the isomer looks about the same.
And on a side note, that was/is the problem with all the bro chemists and the previous gen OTC steroids; it looks similar to XX steroid so that means it's gonna act like XX steroid.
wrong.
celc5
Well-known member
-adex and letro are competitive.
-aromasin is steroidal
those are the popular ones that need to be mentioned. There's a good site called "mesomorphosis" that that is a good introduction to RC's. A quick google should point you in the right direction.
your post count is too low, post more often :study:
-aromasin is steroidal
those are the popular ones that need to be mentioned. There's a good site called "mesomorphosis" that that is a good introduction to RC's. A quick google should point you in the right direction.
your post count is too low, post more often :study:
Beejis60
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I joined a few years ago because some clown was calling me out on here when I wasn't even a member at the time. I was always kinda partial to bb.com (always ordered at NP or elsewhere though
) but now since I'm permabanned there, I obviously can't post.hardknock
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..I joined a few years ago because some clown was calling me out on here when I wasn't even a member at the time. I was always kinda partial to bb.com (always ordered at NP or elsewhere though
my bad, ignore the pm then. I thought you just joined because on my treo, there is limited visability and one is all the user info is gone from view so I assumed you just jumped over here recently.
Beejis60
Member
Hicks? Jkeith?
allendr
New member
thats exactly why I come here. As a first year pharmacy student I blow everyone away when I know details about SERMs, AIs, and endogenous hormones before we learn about them. Keep it up guys!
celc5
Well-known member
Sweet deal! Do you have any thoughts on the popular otc AI's: trione (6oxo), 6bromo, ATD, formestane?
Beejis60
Member
1st year pharm students likely won't discuss this in great length, if ever at all.
hardknock
Well-known member
Truth? I didn't think there was anyone left that spoke the truth period, period.
Nope, I am not either of those guys. I do know of them though, I believe. I am just me, this screen name, since 10 years....I was just saying "hello"....as you were.