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SD LV 1 week in, actually epi/SD bridge

sw bill

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So here's the deal, I was nearly 3 weeks into a run of Havoc when my bottles of SD arrived in the mail. My plan was to save it for later but I couldn't just let it sit there so I turned this into a havoc/SD bridge. I ran havoc at 30mg ED for 18 days then switched to SD at .5 ml 3xED for the past 7 days. Starting today I am bumping it up to 1 ml 3xED.
Right now I am up 6 lbs which I great for me, I have run many PH cycles over the past few years and strength has always gone way up and I lean out a bunch but usually don't add a lot of weight.
Strength is huge right now and the drive to be at the gym 7 days a week is insane, it's hard to convince yourself to get proper rest time in but you gotta do it.
Definently feeling shut down and lethargic, I have been using SA twice a week to help with the boys, so far it still works when it needs to but not much desire at the moment. I have also noticed I feel alot of anxity shortly after taking SD, usually last a hour or so then goes away. Also have had a little trouble sleeping but not to bad.
Agressiveness and short temper is very evident but that's not outta thenorm for me.
Diet and pct is in check so I won't get into all that. I don't do well running logs so if you questions just post here.
So far very happy with this cycle.
 
sw bill said:
So here's the deal, I was nearly 3 weeks into a run of Havoc when my bottles of SD arrived in the mail. My plan was to save it for later but I couldn't just let it sit there so I turned this into a havoc/SD bridge. I ran havoc at 30mg ED for 18 days then switched to SD at .5 ml 3xED for the past 7 days. Starting today I am bumping it up to 1 ml 3xED.
Right now I am up 6 lbs which I great for me, I have run many PH cycles over the past few years and strength has always gone way up and I lean out a bunch but usually don't add a lot of weight.
Strength is huge right now and the drive to be at the gym 7 days a week is insane, it's hard to convince yourself to get proper rest time in but you gotta do it.
Definently feeling shut down and lethargic, I have been using SA twice a week to help with the boys, so far it still works when it needs to but not much desire at the moment. I have also noticed I feel alot of anxity shortly after taking SD, usually last a hour or so then goes away. Also have had a little trouble sleeping but not to bad.
Agressiveness and short temper is very evident but that's not outta thenorm for me.
Diet and pct is in check so I won't get into all that. I don't do well running logs so if you questions just post here.
So far very happy with this cycle.
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Thanks for the feedback, bud.

Are you using any support products here? Any stims as well?
 
i started mine 8 days ago and its my first p-p supplement and i have to say im not gonna look anywhere else again, im up 10 pounds and my strenght is through the roof!i have done a bottle of stakabol in august wich was ok besides the back cramps,i was surprised that sd solo would be better
 
pdredman72 said:
i started mine 8 days ago and its my first p-p supplement and i have to say im not gonna look anywhere else again, im up 10 pounds and my strenght is through the roof!i have done a bottle of stakabol in august wich was ok besides the back cramps,i was surprised that sd solo would be better
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Thanks for the feedback and support as well. :)

Keep it coming, guys. I want to make a nice consolidated thread for everyone to review.
 
Trauma1 said:
Thanks for the feedback, bud.

Are you using any support products here? Any stims as well?
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Hey T1, I have all the basic staple supps, milk thistle, Hawthorne berry, fish oil and multi vit. For stims I had thermogum until I just ran out ( love thermogum, definently getting more) and coffie, lots andlots of coffie.
 
sw bill said:
Hey T1, I have all the basic staple supps, milk thistle, Hawthorne berry, fish oil and multi vit. For stims I had thermogum until I just ran out ( love thermogum, definently getting more) and coffie, lots andlots of coffie.
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I'd keep the caffeine to a minimum mate to prevent it exacerbating blood pressure issues. have you tried Invalid Link Removed as an alternative?
 
UKStrength said:
I'd keep the caffeine to a minimum mate to prevent it exacerbating blood pressure issues. have you tried Invalid Link Removed as an alternative?
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I haven't tried green tee. Actually I didnt even know it was a stim. So far blood pressure hasn't been high. I have actually never had blood presure issues.
 
Guess it's time to listen to my body. Last week was incredible, I felt great and was the strongest I have ever been. Pumps were amazing and alpha male was kickin hard. Like a jacka$$ I couldn't leave things the way they are so last friday I bumped it from .5 ml 3xed to 1 ml 3xed. This week has sucked asz, I have no energy or drive, motivation is gone and all my lifts are way down. Appatite is completely gone and my weight is even down 1 pound since last week.
I am going to go back to .5 ml for the last few days of this cycle and hopfully finish this off on the positive side. I am open to any other advice or suggestions.
 
Yesterday was my last day running SD and I am kinda mixed on what I think about it. When I droped havoc it was really kicking in hard. Things seemed to go down hill everyday since I started the SD but I think it's more my fault than anything. The SD idefinently has stronger sides than I was prepared for. I used milk thistle through out but still had liver pains, loss of apatite, bloating and just plain whiped out all the time
I also took fish oil but my shoulder joints hurt so bad I can't even sleep at night, it's all I can do to pick up my cup of coffee.
Within a few days of droping the havoc my strength started to drop and my weight gain stopped increasing. As expected I completely shut down.
I will say that I have never felt more "on" with any other PH. My arms are always rock hard and very full. Can't even reach across to the oposite shoulder.
I do look forward to running this again this summer but it will be a strIght 4 week at .5 ml 3xED run. I will add in more joint support than just fish oil and more liver support than just MT. I will also use cycle support precycle which I should have done this time. I think my biggest mistake was going up to 1ml. I figured with my ph experience I could handle it but I was wrong.
 
sw bill said:
Yesterday was my last day running SD and I am kinda mixed on what I think about it. When I droped havoc it was really kicking in hard. Things seemed to go down hill everyday since I started the SD but I think it's more my fault than anything. The SD idefinently has stronger sides than I was prepared for. I used milk thistle through out but still had liver pains, loss of apatite, bloating and just plain whiped out all the time
I also took fish oil but my shoulder joints hurt so bad I can't even sleep at night, it's all I can do to pick up my cup of coffee.
Within a few days of droping the havoc my strength started to drop and my weight gain stopped increasing. As expected I completely shut down.
I will say that I have never felt more "on" with any other PH. My arms are always rock hard and very full. Can't even reach across to the oposite shoulder.
I do look forward to running this again this summer but it will be a strIght 4 week at .5 ml 3xED run. I will add in more joint support than just fish oil and more liver support than just MT. I will also use cycle support precycle which I should have done this time. I think my biggest mistake was going up to 1ml. I figured with my ph experience I could handle it but I was wrong.
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SD is such a potent compound and with the LV delivery system, even more of the compound gets into your system, potentiating effects. Often previous users of the SD compound have found that a lower dosage be used on cycle due to this effect.

I'm glad you had a reasonably positive experience on cycle though! :D
 
UKStrength said:
SD is such a potent compound and with the LV delivery system, even more of the compound gets into your system, potentiating effects. Often previous users of the SD compound have found that a lower dosage be used on cycle due to this effect.

I'm glad you had a reasonably positive experience on cycle though! :D
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this is why the bottle will last so long. very cost effective.
 
1 full week into pct. Got my bp checked todayand its still quite high. 141/89 for me that is way high. Is that normal a week into pct? Only time I have ever had bp issues was with a run of dbol.
The TRS seems to be kicking and getting things working again,I was able get it done but good last night so all is well there.
Weight is down 2 pounds and strength has been a bit down all week but not terribly. I will say that SD did blow me up crazy fast but I feel like I am deflating just as quick, my wife says I haven't but I think I have. Maybe it's just the pct blues.
 
sw bill said:
Yesterday was my last day running SD and I am kinda mixed on what I think about it. When I droped havoc it was really kicking in hard. Things seemed to go down hill everyday since I started the SD but I think it's more my fault than anything. The SD idefinently has stronger sides than I was prepared for. I used milk thistle through out but still had liver pains, loss of apatite, bloating and just plain whiped out all the time
I also took fish oil but my shoulder joints hurt so bad I can't even sleep at night, it's all I can do to pick up my cup of coffee.
Within a few days of droping the havoc my strength started to drop and my weight gain stopped increasing. As expected I completely shut down.
I will say that I have never felt more "on" with any other PH. My arms are always rock hard and very full. Can't even reach across to the oposite shoulder.
I do look forward to running this again this summer but it will be a strIght 4 week at .5 ml 3xED run. I will add in more joint support than just fish oil and more liver support than just MT. I will also use cycle support precycle which I should have done this time. I think my biggest mistake was going up to 1ml. I figured with my ph experience I could handle it but I was wrong.
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Running Havoc into Superdrone takes more planning, much better liver support, and a solid PCT. I am not trying to bag on you, just being honest. Also, Havoc tends to dry the joints out in some people. So it could be hell on your joints to run Superdrone after Havoc.

Just plan out a good cycle for Superdrone and focus on the Superdrone. Don't get ahead of yourself, once you hit the sweet spot have the discipline to stay there.

I wouldn't stack Superdrone or bridge it with another methyl. I think you would have a great run if you stacked it with 1-T or Dermacrine.
 
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