kingk0ng
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At this point I'm sure he's just trolling. He obviously lacks in anatomy and physiology knowledge. It's useless arguing with him. I've reported his posts, hopefully he'll be banned soon.
how should i be barbell benching??
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At this point I'm sure he's just trolling. He obviously lacks in anatomy and physiology knowledge. It's useless arguing with him. I've reported his posts, hopefully he'll be banned soon.
H8dook
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Kid..REALLY???
I never TRIED TO PROVE HIM WRONG.READ THE ENTIRE POST!!!
DO you have ADHD???
He jumped in this thread claiming "partials" are useless....I PROVIDED PROFESSIONAL EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY!
You 2 need to get a room since you are riding his sack so hard!
H8dook
Banned
ANY sensible,reasonable mod will be able to decipher through your BS!
YOU attacked my post AFTER I presented evidence to the contrary.
STOP crying!
kingk0ng
Active member
You presented nothing more than a man that earns a living wearing thongs covered in baby oil providing misjudgment on the ignorant assumption that "half the work" produces "better results."
I explained to you in pure physiology how you should bench and why. And even presented evidence according to the laws of physics.
Any reasonable mod will dispose of you and your nonproductive comments. You have not had anything to say, but insults. You have no argument. Shut up. Go back to being ignorant.
ammoarsenal
Member
:frustrate
H8dook
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MMM...Funny how you FAILED physics and pursued a "Vagina" degree through your own admissions.
YOUR complete DENIAL that partials have a place in a workout regimen,once again proves you are NOT as smart as you pretend to be.
ONCE AGAIN...PARTIALS HAVE A PLACE...AND WILL HELP YOU,(YES,EVEN YOU),BREAK THROUGH PLATEAUS!
That's a productive AND CONSTRUCTIVE analysis....BACKED by a PROFESSIONAL w/a DEGREE AND 14 YEARS EXPERIENCE.
ammoarsenal
Member
i just got the sudden urge to throw a 45 pound plate into someones face. strange. :irked:
kingk0ng
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"Failed" physics? Cute. And there are six other nurses that are males that work at my hospital and I guarantee you would not have to balls to say half the things you're saying if it wasn't for that computer you're hiding behind.
Do you know how nursing started? Civil War soldiers out on the field. Yes, men that fought for your freedom. And seeing this economy, if you ever get out of middle school and attempt to change your life and stop being an arrogant ****head, I would like to see you find a job that is going to last longer than mine.
Back to the "Physics" question. Your ignorant assumptions make my skin boil. I never "failed" anything. I actually passed my classes with a 3.0. I switched from the Physics major because I decided not to attend Medical school.
And I said the only "partials" that are applausable are the ones the guys at Westside (powerlifters do). Board presses to break the top of the bench press. Once again, you're arguing over something you're virtually clueless of.
H8dook
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YOU wouldn't do that in person.....MAINLY because you probably COULDN'T pick one up....GO back to the kiddie pool w/your swim diaper on...KID!
H8dook
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That's what is GREAT about the internet...YOU CAN BE ANYONE YOU WANNA BE!!!!YOU ARE PROVING THAT!
How else would nursing start out in the Civil War IDIOT??? How many WOMEN where out in the battlefields?????.LOL!!!!!
I HAVE 2 DEGREES from UNC....3.2 GPA across the board...smart guy.
If we must start swinging d1cks....I GUARANTEE you my income is HIGHER than yours...nurse!
on another note...MOST male nurses are gay.Not saying they all are,but that's the perception.,unless they work w/ you of course...the 6 BIGGEST,BADDEST,TOUGHEST BED PAN TOTING,SCRUB WEARERS ON THE PLANET...LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
kingk0ng
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You have zero degrees. You are a little kid playing games over the computer. You've proven your age just from the way you type and your attitude.
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ammoarsenal
Member
great insult, almost as good as your ego.
H8dook
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LOL!!!!
YOU are picking up your little rump-ranger's ADHD Symptoms.
Why the link??? COMMON sense would dictate "nursing" on the battlefield was performed by men...THERE WERE NO WOMEN...TOOL!!!!
Who's arguing that point???
Why so sensitive about your "FEMALE" degree?
You wanna talk attitude?? Mr. It's my way or NO way??? That's downright hilarious!!!!
ammoarsenal
Member
His responses just show lack of confidence in himself. Insecurities written by low life no named deutchbag whos self esteem has been cut down so low in real life he has to go to forums to talk trash to feel like the better man. You are the laughing stock of this thread, anabolicminds of this hour, and probably the laughing stock in real life. I hope you find enough balls to talk like a man someday, and not like a pissed of middle schooler.
kingk0ng
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You are still showing your narrow mindedness and ignorance. You didn't even bother opening the links did you? Why don't you go tell an Army Combat Medic that he is persuading a "female degree?"
And yes, there were PLENTY of women in the Civil War. Once again, you need to start paying attention in class; you might actually learn something.
H8dook
Banned
TO SUMMARIZE...
Partial reps have a place in a bench pressing routine,and play a significant role in breaking through plateaus.
Just because YOU didn't read it in a book at ut,DOESN'T make it any less applicable.
Speaking of ut...what are the front teeth requirements to get into that "hee haw" university?
Partial reps have a place in a bench pressing routine,and play a significant role in breaking through plateaus.
Just because YOU didn't read it in a book at ut,DOESN'T make it any less applicable.
Speaking of ut...what are the front teeth requirements to get into that "hee haw" university?
H8dook
Banned
HOW MANY WOMEN WERE ON THE ACTUAL BATTLEFIELDS?????????
NEVER ONCE IN A HISTORY CLASS....JR HIGH,HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE HAS THERE BEEN A REFERENCE TO A FEMALE ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN COMBAT...NEVER!
But,you will ALWAYS be my little "warrior princess in scrubs."...Good night...cutie!
kingk0ng
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Yeah. You seriously need to grow up. You're from North Carolina. I have plenty of family over there and can tell you that people like you are seriously overpopulating there. Lets see you come to UT and say something about someones teeth.
And physiology has nothing to do with UT. If you'd do some damn research instead of setting around acting like a turd you would know a little bit about lifting weights.
No. I take that back. You're not a turd. You're the chewed up corn that shows up in my **** a day after a 4th of July feast.
ammoarsenal
Member
What a moron. i love it how he wont respond to my previous post. he has no explination, he knows its true.
and for the record, many women did serve in the civil war fighting disquised as men.
kingk0ng
Active member
He has proven his lack of intelligence in any particular field over and over.
I've proven him wrong in every way possible and he keeps continuing with personal insults avoiding the fact that he has no logic; he is just trolling.
Anyway I'm off to bed. Let us know how your bench session goes tomorrow.
H8dook
Banned
You have an open invitation to visit NC..CHAPEL HILL to be exact.We'll see how tough my "little toothless warrior in scrubs" is....good night..you big hunk of man-nurse meat you!!!...Don' t forget to brush your TOOTH before you slide in bed w/your cousins!!!
kingk0ng
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Looks like those teachers over there in your amazing state aren't doing their job then are they? Good thing my "yee haw University" actually taught me a few things.
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There is three links once again proving you wrong in a totally different area. Now stop embarrassing yourself with your deficit of brain cells and do some damn research.
kingk0ng
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You want to make "incest" jokes do you? Good. I'm sure you'd love to hear this.
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Want to hear something interesting? Tennessee laws do not allow it. Are you going to continue to stick your foot in your mouth?
H8dook
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YOU got me kid..I HAVE no "EXPLINATION" for you...i don't know what an "EXPLINATION" is...RETARD.
HOW do you serve "DISQUIED?"
COME OUT OF THE POOL KID..ALL THAT PEE WATER YOU ARE SIPPING IS EFFECTING YOUR MINISCULE brain.....
kingk0ng
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LOL at least he knew women fought in the Civil War. I thought even retards knew that.
H8dook
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What the state allows and what happens at my house and your shack are TOTALLY Different....IF people are doing it in NC....AT LEAST THEY ARE LEGAL..SO WHEN YOU ARE PLOWING" YOUR NEXT OF KIN...BE CAREFUL.YOU PROBABLY WON'T HAVE INTERNET ACCESS IN THE BIG HOUSE...MY "LITTLE TOOTHLESS WARRIOR PRINCESS IN SCRUBS."...HURRY OFF TO BED NOW.DON'T WANNA KEEP "COUSIN' JED WAITING!!!!!
IT APPEARS FROM YOUR LINK "WARRIOR PRINCESS" THAT ITS ACTUALLY ALLOWED IN "CERTAIN CONDITIONS" IN NC,BUT "LEGAL" IN OLD ROCKY TOP....NICE SLAM.....OF YOURSELF!
GUESS YOU CAN "PLOW" and be "PLOWED" WITHOUT REPERCUSSIONS NOW.....HAPPPY PLOWING...PRINCESS!!!! DO YOU DO IT IN YOUR SCRUBS?? YOU KINKY DEVIL YOU!!!
kingk0ng
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You have absolutely no idea where I live or who with. You are quick to judge and ignorant assumptions like that have got you where you're at right now. Grow the **** up dude. You've proven in this thread you're dumber than a 5lb bucket of stupid already, so quit embarrassing yourself. You have terrible grammar, NO exercise knowledge, you're a hypocritical stereotypical airhead and you have the worse history than most cats have. Grow up.
You have been continuously humiliated and proven wrong in this whole entire thread, give it up already.
H8dook
Banned
kingk0ng
Active member
Thank God. I was almost afraid there for a minute I messed up when I tried reporting his post.
ammoarsenal
Member
i reported him too lol
ammoarsenal
Member
What a loon.
I think he could've been a bot. His rebuttals sounded a lot like the flamethrower from the 'come get some' thread. :rofl:
so now hes banned does that mean he cant get back on to anabolicminds at all with that account? or he has to wait or wat.
ammoarsenal
Member
you can ban temporarily. we users wont ever know but the mods do. either way i would have made it permanent. no use for that BS here.
back to benching
dont flare those elbows!
gonna hit the weights today with everything ive learned in this thread... well see what happens
rckvl7
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Good luck, come back if you have any more questions.
kingk0ng
Active member
The guy was just plain and simple trolling. I think he was a middle school student or something the way he was talking. He claimed he had two degrees, but I find the BS.
Anyway, get the elbows under the bar and watch the Dave Tate demonstration. Can't argue with a man that bench presses 600 lbs
Anyway, get the elbows under the bar and watch the Dave Tate demonstration. Can't argue with a man that bench presses 600 lbs
FatalFunnel
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LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!!
ammoarsenal
Member
hahahaha
ammoarsenal
Member
so as a follow up, i tried the bench technique as done in the video. and to my suprise, i did add about 15 pounds on my bench. it takes some getting used to flaring your elbows out is a hard habit to break. one thing that really helped was tightening up your lats/traps. it makes the lower portion of the rep alot easier. good stuff people thanks!
Blacktail
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This. You watched the Tate vid eh? He's bloody hilarious, I love the guy in the most heterosexual way possible.
Pitbull14218
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Not gonna lie, I started doing some partial reps, well more like 80% of a whole rep, because my chest seemed to hit a plateau, and i got stronger and my chest felt more pumped. My chest got bigger too, but i can see how you should still do Full range of motion.
There are people that are double jointed and there elbow's can almost go backwards, well my arms seem to lockout before they are completely straight, so now that i dont go commpletely up it seems like i have more resistance on my tri's and chest.... idk, thats just me, so i guess they aren't really partials but kinda not full range.
There are people that are double jointed and there elbow's can almost go backwards, well my arms seem to lockout before they are completely straight, so now that i dont go commpletely up it seems like i have more resistance on my tri's and chest.... idk, thats just me, so i guess they aren't really partials but kinda not full range.
kingk0ng
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The only time you should not do full ROM is with reason. Not locking out at the top is something highly debated, but it really just depends on the person. I recommend everyone to lock out, but that's just me.
Secondly, if you're struggling with the lockout then partial "board presses" like powerlifters use can strengthen the stabilizers and triceps. Afterall, you're never going to develop in perfect symmetry anyway.
Secondly, if you're struggling with the lockout then partial "board presses" like powerlifters use can strengthen the stabilizers and triceps. Afterall, you're never going to develop in perfect symmetry anyway.
Blacktail
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Rock Lewis disagrees with you on the lock out part. I have followed his plan before and grew a very strong bench. I am planning on running it again this year.
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omni
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I've been training for a long time. In my mid twenties I injured my shoulder benching 515lbs. I ended up doing partials with dumbells for while I rehabed. When I went back to the barbell I started bringing the bar 1-2" from my chest with no shoulder pain for over 5 years. I started thimking about full range of motion and readjusting my workouts. I went back to touching my chest and a few months later I screwed my shoulder up again. So, back to small weights again. I recovered, went back to my 1-2" thing for a few more years and felt I was missing something. I really like the Hammer equipment. Eventually, shoulder pain because the starting position is at the bottom. Today I warm up at full range upto 225 then my working sets are partial. I'm one of the bigger guys at the gym, and use heavy weights on everything. I think I've earned the respect in my gym not to be looked at like a ...sy because of how I lift. I deadlift and squat while other guys just bench. Just my 2 cents. over 20 years exp.
kingk0ng
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World class powerlifters like Dave Tate and the guys at Westside doesn't agree with Rock Lewis.
When you do not lock out you fatigue the muscles quicker, do not complete the range of motion, take a lot of tricep involvement out since it is responsible for much of the lockout, increase lactic acid buildup, and cause your body to reduce the weight - none of which are beneficial.
What you're suggesting is like saying squat 1 inch above parallel. I thought Rippetoe did a good job explaining why in starting strength you should always train through your full and natural range of motion.
Doing half the work is where imbalance comes from.
Blacktail
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Those guys take steroids and he doesn't. He is tough as nails and his routine works period. If this guy took steroids I guarantee he would annihilate Dave Tate and the WSB.
Your reasoning about the lactic acid is backwards btw. Since your not locking our you would create less lactic acid build up, unless you are resting the weight in-between sets.
Sometimes squatting above parallel or dead lifting off blocks or doing rack dead can get you past sticking points and increase your overall strength
greatly.
So frankly if you have never done them, you have no experience with them and therefore your opinions are based on other mens words. Thats makes your opinions completely irrelevant and you a parrot.
kingk0ng
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No. The reason is not backwards with lactic acid. Go do barbell curls for six weeks then switch to 21's, notice a greater lactic acid burn? Half the range of motion causes the muscle to stop before its completed stretch, which does not stimulate the muscle effectively.
No one that does partial ROM is going to "annihilate" Dave Tate and the guys at Westside. Their methods are proven effective in science and experience. Did the "bodybuilder" that condoned partials scientifically prove anything under than no understanding of kinesiology? No he didn't. Anything will work with genetic freaks like that; even partial bench presses. And most of these stupid bodybuilders recommending pointless stuff like you're condoning are also the ones that insist on believing flies target the "inner chest". Do you believe that too? If so, it is YOU that are a "parrot" (or worse).
And no I've never done partial bench presses. I prefer giving a full stretch for my muscles and there is NO good reason not to lockout. If you're talking about keeping the muscle tension "constant" that is invalid. The muscle tension is never constant throughout the range of motion and your muscles do not rest during lockout; they receive their full stretch. If you do believe muscles rest at lockout; then hold the bar in lockout for one minute and lets see how many reps it takes off your rep total.