Creatine would also be a nice addition.
tyrosine is good
alcar is good
ragnorak stim free is a nice mix
No alcar for me. Small doses make me angry and large ones make me tired, almost drugged.
do you take choline with alcar? if not that can make a person feel tired if you are not getting enough though dietary means
Its a good point. This certainly happens with piracetam usage if you get the balance wrong it can go wrong - allegedly very badly in some people.
ALCAR is potent stuff - well worth checking choline against it.