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HCG for PCT

radiodude

radiodude

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I've researched HCG and can't seem to find a definitive answer as to the best time to use it for PCT, and understand that I probably never will, just wanted you guy's advise. Would it be best to use during the 18 days between my last injection of Testosterone Cypionate? Or would it be better to just take with my Nolva during PCT?
 
radiodude said:
I've researched HCG and can't seem to find a definitive answer as to the best time to use it for PCT, and understand that I probably never will, just wanted you guy's advise. Would it be best to use during the 18 days between my last injection of Testosterone Cypionate? Or would it be better to just take with my Nolva during PCT?
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start the HCG on week 3 of your test cycle and run it up until the day before PCT then stop use.

for PCT use either clomid or nolva, HCG isn't a SERM and won't work like on either.
 
Like Alex said, hcg is counter productive to use in pct. Run it on cycle or like u said after ur last injection prior to starting pct.
 
I advise my AAS patients to use small amounts of HCG (250IU to 500IU) two days each week, right from the beginning of the cycle. This serves to maintain testicular form and function. It makes more sense to me to keep the horse in the barn, so to speak, then to have to chase it across three counties later on.
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Pretty much says it all right there. Google the SWALE hCG protocol. Everyone who I have seen utilize it ended up liking it, including myself. I think the hCG during PCT idea is not only outdated, but I can't even figure out why anyone ever thought it was a good idea in the first place.
 
alexx33 said:
start the HCG on week 3 of your test cycle and run it up until the day before PCT then stop use.

for PCT use either clomid or nolva, HCG isn't a SERM and won't work like on either.
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Libertarian said:
Pretty much says it all right there. Google the SWALE hCG protocol. Everyone who I have seen utilize it ended up liking it, including myself. I think the hCG during PCT idea is not only outdated, but I can't even figure out why anyone ever thought it was a good idea in the first place.
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I completely agree with both of these statements. When I used it the last time, I did it in the middle of my cycle when I started noticing atrophy. While it did help, I also wished I had done it from the beggining. Oh, and definitely not for PCT. Use a SERM for PCT. You can use one of the ones already mentioned (tamox, clomid) or my personal preference is torem.
 
Great info, thanks guys. I'm right at the halfway point of my 12-week cycle now, wish I would have used it from the beginning, but it would be okay to start now and run through to the start of PCT then?
 
radiodude said:
Great info, thanks guys. I'm right at the halfway point of my 12-week cycle now, wish I would have used it from the beginning, but it would be okay to start now and run through to the start of PCT then?
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yes, you can run it now but stop before PCT.
 
i started it mid cycle and used 500 ui eod for 2 weeks then went down to 250 eod until pct. i was using test/tren and i noticed a hugre difference.
 
thats just some simple math to figure that out. i usually put a little water in the vial to disolve it and then pull that out with a syringe and inject it into another bottle with a known amount of bac water in it.
 
radiodude said:
250iu/day sound about right to you guys?
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That much probably won't be necessary. Did you read the SWALE protocol? I think a good starting place is 250iu every third day. If your nuts still shrink for some reason, then bump it up to EOD. I doubt you'll have to go all the way up to ED.

Some people think you should wait until a certain time in the cycle to start with the hCG, but there isn't anything wrong with starting at the beginning, especially if you are using an AI while on cycle (which you should be anyway).

Mixing is also very easy. Bust the amp open, squirt some bacteriostatic water in it to make it dissolve, then suck it back up into the syringe, and then squirt it into the vial. How much BW you use isn't all that important, just keep track of how much you use. For instance, if you dissolved 2500iu in 10ml of BW, then you'd have about 250iu/ml. 4th grade math, easy stuff.
 
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