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dermacrine + this or that

sanchezgreg18

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what do u think would get more out of a dermacrine cycle running it with HGHUP or BCS dominate which is 2g lclt, 1g divanil, 50mg forslean, and I3C.
 
what do u think would get more out of a dermacrine cycle running it with HGHUP or BCS dominate which is 2g lclt, 1g divanil, 50mg forslean, and I3C.

Ideally mate, I'd run the Invalid Link Removed solo (great gains anyway) and run the other two as a stack during PCT. The testosterone boosting effects of the Invalid Link Removed will out-class the other two compounds, so it's probably unnecessary to have them on-cycle.

What's the rest of your cycle like mate? Running a comprehensive PCT?
 
was planning on derm being my first cycle, pct with nolva, pcs, 6-oxo. but now i think the derm would be better used down the road with a cycle that will cause lethargy.
 
was planning on derm being my first cycle, pct with nolva, pcs, 6-oxo. but now i think the derm would be better used down the road with a cycle that will cause lethargy.

You could run the Invalid Link Removed alone as a small cycle, then the Invalid Link Removed would be more than enough to recover from it without using Nolvadex.

What future cycle were you thinking of putting it with? Invalid Link Removed is a very stackable compound :D
 
How old?

How long have you been training?

Are your stats currently accurate (height/weight)?

Sorry for all the questions, but I need them to help generate my response in helping you out. :)
 
in response to ukstrength i was thinking of saving the derm for use with sd/phera cycle i have planned DOWN THE ROAD. with that said i could always just use test. but neway to answer traumas q's:

age 20
ht 5'7''
wt 128
yrs training 6 total 2 serious with a break between the times i have been seriously training (mealplanning, supps, keeping track of workout numbers etc.) when i was hospitalized 81lbs.
 
in response to ukstrength i was thinking of saving the derm for use with sd/phera cycle i have planned DOWN THE ROAD. with that said i could always just use test. but neway to answer traumas q's:

age 20
ht 5'7''
wt 128
yrs training 6 total 2 serious with a break between the times i have been seriously training (mealplanning, supps, keeping track of workout numbers etc.) when i was hospitalized 81lbs.

Due to your age mate (and I think John will vouch for me on this) I can't recommend the use of exogenous anabolic compounds until you're at least 21, that leaves the dermacrine out for a while, I apologise as I should have asked this initially. The ultimate decision I will leave to you though.

I think you could make some great gains with the supplements you've mentioned, build up your bodyweight again and max out your gains naturally then jump on the anabolics.
 
yeah no prob i wasnt considering even using derm until 21 neways

My best advice here is to wait at this point. I can't emphasize enough how important it is to build a strong foundation though diet and exercise first. You can make phenomenal gains in a natural state. I made some of the best gains of my life in my late teens using Creatine Monhydrate and BCAA's. Believe me when I tell you that you'll be thankful that you waited. You have plenty of time to experiment; make sure you have the fundamentals in place first.

We're always here to help with any questions that you may have along the way. :)

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Even then you probably won't need it. You're 5'7" ans less than 130lbs! Eat, eat eat!!

come on bro dont make blanket statements like that. you dont know why i only weigh 128 and what my diet looks like. i have a better diet and understanding of nutrition now then most people on this board. and i am meticulous when it comes to diet, i plan my meals two days in advance and weigh everything so i know exactly how much i eat and exact macro breakdown. but thanks trauma for ur help. and i use all those except the endoamp btw
 
come on bro dont make blanket statements like that. you dont know why i only weigh 128 and what my diet looks like. i have a better diet and understanding of nutrition now then most people on this board. and i am meticulous when it comes to diet, i plan my meals two days in advance and weigh everything so i know exactly how much i eat and exact macro breakdown. but thanks trauma for ur help. and i use all those except the endoamp btw

Serious Sanchez knows his stuff, always put's excellent posts on AM, maybe he is the ultimate hardgainer, I mean look at his pic, this dude is skinny!!! But from what I have seen him post he is doing everything to get big with his diet and correct supps.
 
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