I hate vegetables - will this suffice?

poison said:
Why? Here: there are enzymes, nutrients, vitamins, and minerals which are harmed or eradicated with exposure to oxygen, heat, processing, and time spent sitting on a shelf.
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To a degree, wouldn't the same principle hold true with veggies as well? Some of the responses here included heating/stir frying,etc. Additionally, I've read countless articles on using a simple methodology like steaming even reducses many vegetables' beneficial attributes. This leaves RAWS only (YUK LOL)

It's that simple. As good as some of the powdered greens may be, and as gently as they may be processed at low heat, and carefully packaged, they WILL NOT provide the full spectrum of nutrition that fresh, raw veggies provide.
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Again, nice point about the Raw form. Once again, to respectfully belabor a point that such a source of veggies like greens powders might have their place, how many here think they are eating veggies full of this or that micronutrient, yet they were robbed fo some/most of it via cooking!

Fellas, again, for the 3rd/4th time -I accept eating veggies is superior. That said, can we please continue this discussion intelligently and respectfully? I am pleading the devil's advocate side of things here for a reason. Is it going to kill anyone to learn something from this?

LOL. Thanks
 
I think Whacked is right here. I'll use liver tabs as an example. Raw liver has many befits to it, once you cook it, you lose alot of those benefits. I have trouble eating cooked liver, let alone raw liver. So, I take liver tabs, which have all the benifits of raw liver, without the negatives.

As far as greens go, it's the same thing, if you're going to cook the hell out of them, you'd be better off taking the powdered version.

Back in the 90's, I bought some Kamut powder which is supposed to be very good for you. I think I took it twice, and then it sat in my cupboard for like 8 years before I finally threw it out. So, I'd recommend tabs unless you can find a decent tasting powder.

Still, I think V8 is a great way to blend in raw veggies. If you don't like that, then Rodja's idea of making a smoothie would work, too. If you think about it, you're going to have to find something to absorb the taste of the powder, so how is it that much different than using the actual vegetable?
 
if there's an excuse to not do what you should or a way around something: people will find it
 
purebred said:
if there's an excuse to not do what you should or a way around something: people will find it
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The worst is when it's not even hard. I drink egg whites straight from the carton, vegetables not tasting like butter is the least of my worries.

You want a suggestion? Eat a couple servings of steak a day, before each eat a couple servings of microwaved veggies, then shortly you will associate veggies with steak and be glad to get through them to the steak. If you need to do this you are probably a child or a dog, but there you go.
 
LMAO no doubt :rolleyes:

marco wolf said:
I know. Taking powdered greens is a whole lot worse than taking steroids manufactured in China or some chemical cousin of meth.
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purebred said:
if there's an excuse to not do what you should or a way around something: people will find it
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You mean like half that crap you've posted here?

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I could say the same thing back about half the crap you've inquired about.

You've offered nothing positive or beneficial to this thread so take youre trolling elsewhere and quit wasting my time.
 
The reason why I typed a google's search is because the topic has been discussed here again and again. You will find nothing more by asking the question here than what you found through google, mixed views and varying opinions.

If you wanted "scientific" reasoning then you should have acquired "peer reviewed" journals on fresh, grown, veggies vs supplements.

Your initial approach was that you DO NOT eat veggies and wondered if taking a "green substitute" would suffice. You never really asked if it was superior because as you have stated that you know it is not. So, if you have stated that you know the supplement is not superior then I am perplexed to why you are asking if one can substitute the supplement form (not supplement but substitute) for the real thing.
 
There's a reason why the disclaimer states that this is not a substitute for food but meant as a dietary supplement.
 
Good question.

Veggies I think are a staple. I hired a Harley Street nutritionist (UK) who was a big fan of veggies. She considered carrots to be a carb source *shrug*

You're right its the anti-oxidant values. They are considered better than fruit, a pepper is said to have more vit C than an orange. Broccoli is one of the king veggies.

If no veggies, two bits of advice:
1. Berries or berry power. PP do one. Berries are big.
2. Nutra powders - I3C (is that right? anyway its a veggie extract), grape seed (big anti-oxidant obviously not a veggie) and there's another big one that I've forgotten which is a veggie extract.

Otherwise you're fibre looks good, carb source fine. I guess its what you do with them in the gym that counts.

Before I took all this up 1.5 years ago I'd a cholesterol count borderline high, body fat too high. Now cholesterol normal/low, test normal high and bf <14% at the moment, no fatigue, loads of energy - and thats just switching diet, supps and gym.

Big change. Diet big part.

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I love fruits but I am a low carb guy. I get in a ton of anti-oxidants form supplements and I get my fiber from low carb breads, etc.

I feel I am missing "something" from being devoid of veggies.

Will a product like this "replace" my veggies in total?

Arent these products simply ground down veggies?

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Thanks for the insight to the few of you that supplied it.
 
poison said:
Awesome suggestions there. ^

I'll add one, for the veggie hater: drop into your local Jamba Juice or Robeks, and buy a shot of wheat grass. It's foul stuff, I hate it, but for $1.50, you're getting the nutrition of 2-3lbs of salad. It may seem expensive, $1.50/day, but a big salad every day will cost more than $1.50, and provide less nutrients.

I'm not a big veggie eater, myself. I like Rodja's idea, I just need to break out the blender in my tiny kitchen.

Golden Gains is VERY tasty.
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capnsavem said:
golden gains is good stuff.. still on sale?
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exactly and I think it is still on sale. we also have free golden gains samples via the link in my signature below :)
 
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