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Cant Run Test With Tren?

P70D1GY

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Im planning a cycle and was reading up on how the ingredients I plan to use are suitable for each other. In the midst of my reading I saw someone saying that tren and test should not be used together because they fight over receptors. Anyone have any imput on this? I would think they would work in synergy. Yes? No? Any imput appreciated.
 
i saw this on another board i believe.

personally, while its best to ALWAYS stack test and tren together, some ppl can handle tren without test but i do not recommend that AT ALL.

u must have gotten ur info from a 2001 post or something....things have changed...do more research
 
wrong, run test with tren, and imo run test higher than tren, ie 500 mgs test to 250 mgs tren per week, depending on size and experience maybe even 250mgs test and 150mgs tren per week (many would be surprised at how well that will work for them). Start out lower, you can always increase dose, and run 8 weeks, not 4, have patience. IF it is tren a at 100mgs/ml(which I assume it is) to run the lower dose, still need eod pins, so just go .5cc 3 times per week- Mon, Wed, Fri, can always increase dose after a few weeks. Trust me, run the least amount you can to get the gains you want, your wallet and health will thank you.
 
Thanks I appreciate it. I was thinking of doing 50mg e/d. Now that I do the math thats 350mg each week. Is that a bit high for a first time tren user trying to keep the dose low?
 
P70D1GY said:
Thanks I appreciate it. I was thinking of doing 50mg e/d. Now that I do the math thats 350mg each week. Is that a bit high for a first time tren user trying to keep the dose low?
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for my first tren run i started at 50mg eod....then 75mg eod...then 100mg eod....then finally to 50mg ed.

my gear was slightly underdosed so i dont suggest u do exact doses i did, but u can always adjust accordingly

if u want, start with 75mg eod....that should be a great starting point
 
yes, 1st time tren user, do you have much other experience? If not, seriosly start at 250mgs test and 150 tren, can always go up. I used tren a lot back in the day, and even once went up to 500 mgs per week, I have a lot of experience with it, we used to call it the juice of the gods, it is great, very powerful, makes you strong, lean and puts on quality size, but sides are a pain, is very suppressive and dont need much, trust me when I say, 150 mgs per week starting out for a few weeks and then can go up from there.
 
isoc said:
yes, 1st time tren user, do you have much other experience? If not, seriosly start at 250mgs test and 150 tren, can always go up.
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id go higher with the test, 250mg isnt very much...even if its prop.

i would suggest:

Test Prop 100mg eod 1-8
Tren Ace 75mg eod 1-6
 
yes, 250 mgs is low, but if he is first time user and running tren he probably doesnt need much, although what you outlined is also conservative. Just realize that this will NOT be your last cycle, unless you die, you will come back, definitely dont start out at more than nons stated, that is good starter doses. I am probably a little too conservative due to age
 
but if sides get bad and he stops he'll still be dealin with sides for another two weeks with enanthate... just something to give thought to on a first run IMO
 
P70D1GY said:
Im planning a cycle and was reading up on how the ingredients I plan to use are suitable for each other. In the midst of my reading I saw someone saying that tren and test should not be used together because they fight over receptors. Anyone have any imput on this? I would think they would work in synergy. Yes? No? Any imput appreciated.
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I'm on week 6 of a 500 mg test and 75 mg tren ace EOD right now, and I think there may be something to this test vs tren fighting over receptors in my body cause I'm an ANGRY MOFO! (that can lift small busloads of children) seriously, I dream about killing cats and nerds please send happy pills or something, Tim.:01:
 
A lot of people have actually much better success running Test LOWER than Tren than the other way around:

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timmmah said:
I'm on week 6 of a 500 mg test and 75 mg tren ace EOD right now, and I think there may be something to this test vs tren fighting over receptors in my body cause I'm an ANGRY MOFO! (that can lift small busloads of children) seriously, I dream about killing cats and nerds please send happy pills or something, Tim.:01:
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that is not a problem of test and tren, that is a tren side effect. Seriously, no doubt about it, short temper, weird nightmarish dreams, I had those taking only tren for a short time while waiting on test. You have two options, number1 realize what is happening and deal with it, acting like an idiot while on juice only gives it a bad name. Number2, if you cant handle it then cut the dose or quit using the compound. No offense but walknig around acting like an idiot only makes gear look even worse to the general public. And no, dont compound the problem by drinking or doing recs to stay calm, handle it like an adult male which you are. Sorry to come off harsh but seen too many people give me and everyone else a bad name, I trust you are not offended and will do the right thing and we do thank you for it, because it is an effort and it does take humility to cut back on dose or stop a compound. I know this from experience.
 
250mg of test and 150mg of tren would be a great first time cycle. be patient and just stick to your plan for 8+ weeks. If you don't gain 10+lbs and drop bodyfat I'll kick an old lady down the stairs (not something I usually do).

running both test and a protegest steroid at the same time your first run though is dangerous so make sure you read up alot and have your PCT ready. Tren shut down is INTENSE and PCT is VERY HARD so be ready for that. I wouldn't run it without HCG personally.
 
isoc said:
that is not a problem of test and tren, that is a tren side effect. Seriously, no doubt about it, short temper, weird nightmarish dreams, I had those taking only tren for a short time while waiting on test. You have two options, number1 realize what is happening and deal with it, acting like an idiot while on juice only gives it a bad name. Number2, if you cant handle it then cut the dose or quit using the compound. No offense but walknig around acting like an idiot only makes gear look even worse to the general public. And no, dont compound the problem by drinking or doing recs to stay calm, handle it like an adult male which you are. Sorry to come off harsh but seen too many people give me and everyone else a bad name, I trust you are not offended and will do the right thing and we do thank you for it, because it is an effort and it does take humility to cut back on dose or stop a compound. I know this from experience.
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Easy Dr. Phil, I was only joking, I love tren! and kitties:arms:
 
timmmah said:
Easy Dr. Phil, I was only joking, I love tren! and kitties:arms:
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sorry man, Dr. Phil, that is funny. I did take it seriously because I did have some weird thoughts and dreams on that stuff and did make a fool of myself and give gear a bad name. I only responded because of my own embarrassment. The only mistakes I can comment on are the ones I have already made. Yes, tren is the best physique enhancing drug out there in my opinion. If your only goad was to change your body, didnt care about sides, shutdown, etc., then tren by far is better than anything else that I took.
 
Hey, if I was gonna rage out on somebody, it would definitely be when I was on tren. I hear ya bro, sometimes it does take some major restraint to keep it cool.:cheers:
 
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