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bulldogz

bulldogz

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doing a phera and sd bridge and wanted some input on this pct....

Wk6: Nolva 40mg ed / IBE Formex 75mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 75mg ed
Wk7: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 50mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 75mg ed
Wk8: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 100mg ed
Wk9: Nolva 10mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 100mg ed

should i tweek anything in the pct...?
 
thank you neverstop....I never tired clomid but was thinking of taking a natty test booster like trib (or something else) along with zma at week 9 or 10 for about 3-4 weeks...
 
bulldogz said:
doing a phera and sd bridge and wanted some input on this pct....

Wk6: Nolva 40mg ed / IBE Formex 75mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 75mg ed
Wk7: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 50mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 75mg ed
Wk8: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 100mg ed
Wk9: Nolva 10mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 100mg ed

should i tweek anything in the pct...?
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You do not have to have two AIs but if you choose to use both I would personally taper down the ATD starting in the 3rd week. I wouldn't run 75mg ED for the whole week, maybe just the first few days of the week (ATD at 75mg is really strong.)

I would do:
Wk6: Nolva 40mg ed / IBE Formex 50mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support
Wk7: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 50mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support
Wk8: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / Reduce xt 75mg ed (days 1-3), rest of week at 50mg
Wk9: Nolva 10mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / Reduce xt 50mg ed
Wk10: IBE Formex 25mg ed / Reduce xt 25mg ed
Wk11: Reduce xt 25mg eod


*** Starting in Week 8, I would run an SHBG inhibitor like nettle for weeks 8-11. Nettle can raise E2 as well as free test, BUT because you are using fromestane and tapering down ATD you should have no problems whatsoever with a little increase in E2 from the nettle (divanyl). You also do not really need Cycle support and PCS at the same time either.


BEAST
 
Wilderbeast said:
You do not have to have two AIs but if you choose to use both I would personally taper down the ATD starting in the 3rd week. I wouldn't run 75mg ED for the whole week, maybe just the first few days of the week (ATD at 75mg is really strong.)

I would do:
Wk6: Nolva 40mg ed / IBE Formex 50mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support
Wk7: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 50mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support
Wk8: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / Reduce xt 75mg ed (days 1-3), rest of week at 50mg
Wk9: Nolva 10mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / Reduce xt 50mg ed
Wk10: IBE Formex 25mg ed / Reduce xt 25mg ed
Wk11: Reduce xt 25mg eod


*** Starting in Week 8, I would run an SHBG inhibitor like nettle for weeks 8-11. Nettle can raise E2 as well as free test, BUT because you are using fromestane and tapering down ATD you should have no problems whatsoever with a little increase in E2 from the nettle (divanyl). You also do not really need Cycle support and PCS at the same time either.


BEAST
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Reps to beast for beating me to the punch. That is EXACTLY what i was going to say - stagger the AI so it runs after you stop the nolva to prevent a bounceback effect. I personally would add sustain alpha. You don't need to but I ran SA my last cycle and noticed a definite effect. That s*it works and is exactly what you need to reboot - 5 days on, 2 days off, 6 pumps :cheers:
 
Thanks Beast and Crazy!....so gonna do it like this then...

Wk6: Nolva 40mg ed / IBE Formex 50mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support
Wk7: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 50mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support
Wk8: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 75mg ed half week & 50mg ed other half
Wk9: Nolva 10mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 50mg ed
Wk10: IBE Formex 25mg ed / reduce xt 25mg ed
Wk11: reduce xt 25mg eod

I have MassFX as well, but I wanted to take this sometime early next year cuz I have 2 bottle of MAssFX and 2 bottles of Hyperdrol2...thinking of takin a very long break after this cycle

I have a few bottles of trib and zma layin around, instead of the nettle, can I sub in the trib + zma to boost free test?

I also have a question about reduce xt...I was planning to start it in week 5 (during cycle) at 25mg ed, would this work or should I just leave it at 75mg/50mg in wk 8 and start from there?

Thanks :thumbsup:
 
CrazyChemist said:
Reps to beast for beating me to the punch. That is EXACTLY what i was going to say - stagger the AI so it runs after you stop the nolva to prevent a bounceback effect. I personally would add sustain alpha. You don't need to but I ran SA my last cycle and noticed a definite effect. That s*it works and is exactly what you need to reboot - 5 days on, 2 days off, 6 pumps :cheers:
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I heard and read a lot about SA...this is on my list of goodies to purchase down the road... :D
 
bulldogz said:
Thanks Beast and Crazy!....so gonna do it like this then...

Wk6: Nolva 40mg ed / IBE Formex 50mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support
Wk7: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 50mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support
Wk8: Nolva 20mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 75mg ed half week & 50mg ed other half
Wk9: Nolva 10mg ed / IBE Formex 25mg ed / Cycle Support / Post Cycle Support / reduce xt 50mg ed
Wk10: IBE Formex 25mg ed / reduce xt 25mg ed
Wk11: reduce xt 25mg eod

I have MassFX as well, but I wanted to take this sometime early next year cuz I have 2 bottle of MAssFX and 2 bottles of Hyperdrol2...thinking of takin a very long break after this cycle

I have a few bottles of trib and zma layin around, instead of the nettle, can I sub in the trib + zma to boost free test?

I also have a question about reduce xt...I was planning to start it in week 5 (during cycle) at 25mg ed, would this work or should I just leave it at 75mg/50mg in wk 8 and start from there?

Thanks :thumbsup:
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Looks good. Dont see why trib and ZMA couldn't be substituted in. Remember time on <= time off. So if you ran a 11 weeker counting PCT then you need at least 11 weeks off.
 
CrazyChemist said:
Looks good. Dont see why trib and ZMA couldn't be substituted in. Remember time on <= time off. So if you ran a 11 weeker counting PCT then you need at least 11 weeks off.
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yessir...don't plan on takin anything til around this time next year anyway...

what about the reduce xt...I was planning on takin 1 cap ed in wk5 (on cycle) for cortisol and just ramping up the dose while in pct, or should I just start it in wk8 @ 75mg/50mg since I have pcs and cs? I’m thinking the latter….
 
cortisol control on cycle can't hurt but probably not need reduce XT with the other supps
 
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