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P-Plex & Epistane - Opinions on my PCT plz

mdb

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Preload – 2 weeks

AI cycle support 2 scoops
Hawthorne Berry - 1000mgs ED
Fish oil 3 caps
Taurine 800mg
Multi Vitamins
CoQ10 100mg

Cycle – 4 weeks

IBE - Epistane
CEL - P-plex
Gaspari - Novedex XT for estrogen control from p-plex

Week 1 – 30mg epi, 30mg p-plex, 60mg Novedex XT
Week 2 – 30 mg epi, 30mg p-plex, 60mg Novedex XT
Week 3 – 30mg epi, 30mg p-plex, 60mg Novedex XT
Week 4 – 40mg epi, 40mg p-plex, 60mg Novedex XT

Support Sups

AI cycle support 2 scoops
Hawthorne Berry - 1000mgs ED
NAC, 600mg
Alpha Lipoic Acid 1000mg ED
CoQ10 200mg ED
Fish oil 3 caps
Flaxseed oil
Taurine 800mg
p-5-p 200-300mg ED
Vitex 1000mg ED
L-Dopa 750mg-1500mg x 3 ED
Glucosamine

Protein
Animal Pak
Nutrex Mass Xxplosion

Post Cycle Therapy – 4 weeks

Nolva
I Force – Reversitol
Designer Supplements – Activate Xtreme
Anabolic Xtreme – Lean FX

Week 5 - Nolva 30mg, Reversitol 3 caps, Activate Xtreme 4 caps, Lean FX 3caps
Week 6 - Nolva 20mg, Reversitol 2 caps, Activate Xtreme 4 caps, Lean FX 3 caps
Week 7 - Nolva 20mg, Reversitol 1 caps, Activate Xtreme 4 caps, Lean FX 3caps
Week 8 - Nolva 10mg, Reversitol 1 caps, Activate Xtreme 4 caps, Lean FX 3caps

Support Sups

AI cycle support 2 scoops
Hawthorne Berry - 1000mgs ED
NAC, 600mg
Alpha Lipoic Acid 1000mg ED
Fish oil 3 caps
Flaxseed oil
p-5-p 200-300mg
Vitex 1000mg
L-Dopa750mg-1500mg x 3 ED
Glucosamine
CoQ10 100mg
Powerzone Nutrition – Bullet Proof

Protein
Animal Pak
USP Labs – Prime
Muslce Asylum – Anabolic O.D (creatine)

Week 9-10
Calcium d-glucarate to get rid of any bad estrogen thats been left around. 1000mg ED
 
mdb said:
Preload – 2 weeks

AI cycle support 2 scoops
Hawthorne Berry - 1000mgs ED
Fish oil 3 caps
Taurine 800mg
Multi Vitamins
CoQ10 100mg

Cycle – 4 weeks

IBE - Epistane
CEL - P-plex
Gaspari - Novedex XT for estrogen control from p-plex

Week 1 – 30mg epi, 30mg p-plex, 60mg Novedex XT
Week 2 – 30 mg epi, 30mg p-plex, 60mg Novedex XT
Week 3 – 30mg epi, 30mg p-plex, 60mg Novedex XT
Week 4 – 40mg epi, 40mg p-plex, 60mg Novedex XT

Support Sups

AI cycle support 2 scoops
Hawthorne Berry - 1000mgs ED
NAC, 600mg
Alpha Lipoic Acid 1000mg ED
CoQ10 200mg ED
Fish oil 3 caps
Flaxseed oil
Taurine 800mg
p-5-p 200-300mg ED
Vitex 1000mg ED
L-Dopa 750mg-1500mg x 3 ED
Glucosamine

Protein
Animal Pak
Nutrex Mass Xxplosion

Post Cycle Therapy – 4 weeks

Nolva
I Force – Reversitol
Designer Supplements – Activate Xtreme
Anabolic Xtreme – Lean FX

Week 5 - Nolva 30mg, Reversitol 3 caps, Activate Xtreme 4 caps, Lean FX 3caps
Week 6 - Nolva 20mg, Reversitol 2 caps, Activate Xtreme 4 caps, Lean FX 3 caps
Week 7 - Nolva 20mg, Reversitol 1 caps, Activate Xtreme 4 caps, Lean FX 3caps
Week 8 - Nolva 10mg, Reversitol 1 caps, Activate Xtreme 4 caps, Lean FX 3caps

Support Sups

AI cycle support 2 scoops
Hawthorne Berry - 1000mgs ED
NAC, 600mg
Alpha Lipoic Acid 1000mg ED
Fish oil 3 caps
Flaxseed oil
p-5-p 200-300mg
Vitex 1000mg
L-Dopa750mg-1500mg x 3 ED
Glucosamine
CoQ10 100mg
Powerzone Nutrition – Bullet Proof

Protein
Animal Pak
USP Labs – Prime
Muslce Asylum – Anabolic O.D (creatine)

Week 9-10
Calcium d-glucarate to get rid of any bad estrogen thats been left around. 1000mg ED
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I would reconsider this stack. 2 methyls and the p-plex would be fine on it's own. Why are you running Novedex XT during the cycle?
 
p-plex is wet because of the amount of sodium in your diet. some people bloat cause they have a high sodium intake. some people say its dry cause they have their diet sorted. i ran it and found it to be neither wet nor dry, maybe ever so slightly wet. it doesn't convert to estrogen, so you don't need to run an atd during cycle. just drink lots of water and keep an i on your sodium intake. and watch out for prolactin related gyno, get some b6 or bulk-1-carboxy just in case, its cheap. i had neither but its good to have just in case. and i wouldn't stack them together. i'd go 4 weeks pplex, then add epi on week 3-6 for a bridge. the epi should dry you out if the pplex is wet.
 
thanks for that man. i have p-5-p vitex and l-dopa for prolactin control. i'll probably go with the bridge, it sounds good.
 
FYI - Its generally not good to stack two methyl componds on a cycle. Your liver will take beating in doing so and it would be best to bridge these instead.....

ATD is generlly used during PCT, not on cycle. Your diet and a cutter (zol) would be best to minimize the bloat, which does indeed happen with PP even on a clean diet. If you bridge the pp for wks1-4, epi 4-6 the epi will reduce this as well.

PCT: I would start low and taper up the Acitvate, and start high and taper down for the LX.
 
im going to dose the p-plex at 30/30/30/30/0/0 and epi at 0/0/30/30/40/40

i do agree p-plex at 40 is a bit too much but i'll see how i feel in terms of sides.
i'll most likely just stick with 30mg for p-plex tho.

when are you starting your cycle?
 
mdb said:
im going to dose the p-plex at 30/30/30/30/0/0 and epi at 0/0/30/30/40/40

i do agree p-plex at 40 is a bit too much but i'll see how i feel in terms of sides.
i'll most likely just stick with 30mg for p-plex tho.

when are you starting your cycle?
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early july, probably the 6th, cuz i like to start on mondays
 
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