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First PH cycle

Lawro72

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I posted this in the IForce section but thought i would add it here to gather more views.

I'm planning my first PH cycle in August and have decided to go with Epistane pulse cycle. I'm 37 years old and 6' 2" and 220lbs.
I'm going to run it like this:-

week 1 10/20/20
week 2 20/30/30
week 3 30/30/30
week 4 30/30/30
week 5 40/40/40
week 6 40/40/40

On my days off i'm running CEL's Cycle Assist.

PCT i'm going to run Reversitol for 4 weeks @ 3/2/2/1 as well as Cycle Assist. Will this be sufficient or do i need to add something else in?

I've ruled out using a SERM for 2 reasons, 1. i can't guarantee a legit source and 2. i'm not keen on the potential sides you can get from them.

Thanks to anyone who can give me some advice.
 
IMO run a straight cycle. you'll like the gains a whole lot better. i ran epistane twice and never used a SERM. with epi, you will hardly ever, it is good to have it on hand though. a good OTC PCT will do just fine. for you PCT, keep it the way it is and add some natural test booster such as DTH and some creatine and a cortisol blocker.
 
Thanks for the reply bigpapa. It's good to hear off someone who's ran with it. So start the test booster first day of PCT? And what cortisol blocker would you suggest, i'm thinking AX's Lean Fx. When would i start the cortisol blocker? Sorry for so many questions, just want to make sure i got everything sorted first.
 
Lawro72 said:
Thanks for the reply bigpapa. It's good to hear off someone who's ran with it. So start the test booster first day of PCT? And what cortisol blocker would you suggest, i'm thinking AX's Lean Fx. When would i start the cortisol blocker? Sorry for so many questions, just want to make sure i got everything sorted first.
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run it like this...

reversitol 3/2/2/1
cort blocker starting around day 10-14..use lean fx 3 per day
use ur natural test booster starting week 4 of pct...basically when u r running one pill of reversitol.
 
bigpapa said:
run it like this...

reversitol 3/2/2/1
cort blocker starting around day 10-14..use lean fx 3 per day
use ur natural test booster starting week 4 of pct...basically when u r running one pill of reversitol.
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i would say get a natty test boost and a anti-estrogen. have the reversitol like bigpapa said, then run the natty boost with it, and start the anti-estrogen starting at week 4 to avoid flooding.

i just like reversitol+testboost cuz you get more test to keep your gains, and keep strength up
 
Ju1cedUp said:
i would say get a natty test boost and a anti-estrogen. have the reversitol like bigpapa said, then run the natty boost with it, and start the anti-estrogen starting at week 4 to avoid flooding.

i just like reversitol+testboost cuz you get more test to keep your gains, and keep strength up
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reversitol is the anti-estrogen.

a natty test booster should be used later in the PCT to get "jump start" your body producing its own natural test again. starting it the same time, IMO, causes more of a chance of estrogen rebound.
 
Thanks for the input guys, much appreciated.

I'm going to get hold of Lean fx and Diesel Test Hardcore. I'm going to go OTC PCT for this cycle. I know there is a small risk but i'm not comfortable with research chems.
 
Just one more point, just to be on the safe side i've ordered some Generic Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate). How would i run with this PCT if i needed too? ( still intent on OTC )
 
bigpapa said:
reversitol is the anti-estrogen.

a natty test booster should be used later in the PCT to get "jump start" your body producing its own natural test again. starting it the same time, IMO, causes more of a chance of estrogen rebound.
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reversitol is the non rx SERM, its not a estrogen killer like novedex xt or something, it tries to do the part of what a Tomaxifen would do and keep the estrogen in check. As the reversitol gets ramped down, the anti-estrogen gets ramped up.

I hope i'm not just spittin bullshit haha, thought i read this somewhere
 
Lawro72 said:
Just one more point, just to be on the safe side i've ordered some Generic Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate). How would i run with this PCT if i needed too? ( still intent on OTC )
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run the OTC pct like you planned, and if you start to sprout some nice boobs, hit 40-45 mg of Tamoxifen for a couple days standalone and then down to 20 mg. rampin down for 3-4 weeks. Should take care of that

but you should be fine with your plan
 
Ju1cedUp said:
reversitol is the non rx SERM, its not a estrogen killer like novedex xt or something, it tries to do the part of what a Tomaxifen would do and keep the estrogen in check. As the reversitol gets ramped down, the anti-estrogen gets ramped up.

I hope i'm not just spittin bullshit haha, thought i read this somewhere
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well im calling bullshit lol. reversitol has no SERM like properties at all. it may say SERM matrix but it is just a clever marketing gimmick. reversitol is the anti-e in this PCT. using another one will just cause estrogen rebound, IMO even worse. using two anti-e's is not really needed, nor is it economically feasible. reversitol and DTH will be more than enough for epistane. basically what the reversitol is doing is keeping the estrogen in check, so it does not go crazy. the estrogen will still aromatize but the reversitol will slow that process until ur body gets back to homeostasis.

as for the nolva, if u want to use it u can. 20/20/10/10 would be fine. but ur pct would look like this now:

week 1-4 nolva 20/20/10/10
week 4-7 reversitol 3/2/2/1
week 7-on DTH
 
Once again thanks for the info. Will only have the nolva on hand for a last resort, IMO the OTC will be suffice.
 
bigpapa said:
well im calling bullshit lol. reversitol has no SERM like properties at all. it may say SERM matrix but it is just a clever marketing gimmick. reversitol is the anti-e in this PCT. using another one will just cause estrogen rebound, IMO even worse. using two anti-e's is not really needed, nor is it economically feasible. reversitol and DTH will be more than enough for epistane. basically what the reversitol is doing is keeping the estrogen in check, so it does not go crazy. the estrogen will still aromatize but the reversitol will slow that process until ur body gets back to homeostasis.

as for the nolva, if u want to use it u can. 20/20/10/10 would be fine. but ur pct would look like this now:

week 1-4 nolva 20/20/10/10
week 4-7 reversitol 3/2/2/1
week 7-on DTH
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so why use reversitol over just .. lets say.. novedex xt?
 
Ju1cedUp said:
so why use reversitol over just .. lets say.. novedex xt?
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Novedex xt = sh*t if you took it after a havoc cycle you joints would hurt like hell and you would still be supressed. Reversitol is suppose to be "Serm Like" I dont know I have never used and I never will. I would just use a serm its tried and true and cheaper I will never use any besides a serm personally
 
bigpapa said:
its a more complete product...novedex just has the atd....reversitol has atd, 6-bromo, I3C, resveratrol, and long jack. all great things to have during PCT.
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they have to have some other properties then simply killing estrogen though, since novedex does that pretty efficiently, only reason i ever believed that reversitol was more of a estrogen modulator, not to compare to a SERM but be closer then just any anti-e
 
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