Sk8erboy
Banned
My point exactly mention yours and lets see how much BETTER you way before you call someone out with legit lifts
Dc training?
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My point exactly mention yours and lets see how much BETTER you way before you call someone out with legit lifts
GymRat7197
Member
Quit telling people to "research DC", I have researched and was arguing with another member about it on subject and civilized until you came in with your unnecessary personal attacks demonstrating your lack of knowledge on the subject. I don't know your lifts, but you're quick to judge everyone elses without providing evidence on your own, so that tells me something; however, on the contrary, if your body can generate as much force as your mouth I'm sure you're an elite powerlifter.
Keeping judging someone's brains by the size of their biceps. It's exactly how newbies like yourself continue to mess up. Someone could be known to abuse anabolics to get their physique, they could be a genetic freak or just respond without knowing "why" they are responding.
My friends friend is a genetic freak that runs D-BOL twice per year at 17 years old, he is huge, ripped and strong. Yet, he is a moron. He can bench press over 300 pounds at only 170 pounds in bodyweight, doesn't know steroids require PCT or a cycle assistance, yet if someone were to listen to him. Where do you think that would get him? The most valuable thing a personal trainer can carry is his mind, building impressive physiques are required by bodybuilders.
Personal trainers are require to be knowledgeable at the subject.
Arguing with you is getting boring, if you have elaborations on your theories feel free to argue with me. But with your ignorant personal insults it's just getting foolish and taking up potentially creditable posts on this board.
Now having a lot of money makes you smart?
GymRat7197
Member
Once again, you complimented my bench press a week ago now you're insulting it. Make up your mind and quit attacking other peoples lifts until you provide proof of your own, this thread isn't about "who can lift more weight" it is more in the argument of the substantial evidence of the routine.
Don't refer to me as a troll, I have been a member of this forum for two weeks and have more reputation points and posts than you, I've been in more civilized discussions than you and provided more proof of my lifts than you. So if anyone is a troll, it's definitely the guy that contributes once per month and attacks someone in each of his posts. How many people did you make enemies with in the "arms" thread again?
h0other
Well-known member
I guess I made enemies with all the same people who left me rep's and thanked me for making it a good argument. You trying to win the AM Popularity contest? You know there is no Prom King on here? Sorry to inform you of that one. I'm not on here to make buddies or pals, I go on here to learn and to voice my opinion. Hence the word "FORUM".
GymRat7197
Member
So writing a book makes you smart now? Please read starting strength then. I for one don't listen to Arnold. I think Mark Rippetoe appears three times as knowledgeable. I judge by what makes more sense to me and what can be proven, not what the guy with big biceps says. Greg Valentino had huge biceps, does that mean I'm going to do what he did and put oil in my biceps? I doubt it.
If someone repped you in that thread, I'm sure they were unaware. Because it seemed to me like you managed to piss a lot of people off. "Prom king?" Right, damnit what was I thinking? I knew it wasn't prom season!!! :006: for telling me. I cannot believe I can't apply for prom king on here.
You're on here to learn and voice your opinion yet you've said absolutely anything relevant to the subject, you've not argued anything training related, you've simply implied on how impressive lifts, physiques and money in the bank make people smart.
I read on Mark Rippetoe (who doesn't have a highly impressive physique), Frankie NY (never seen him), Bill Starr, Madcow (never seen them), Marc David (impressive physique) and Milos who has a impressive physique. Milos principles won't apply until I'm on a greater level of training.
h0other
Well-known member
I posted 20 times on DC Training before you and your boyfriend started trying to make it personal. All I said was you were not ready for DC training physically(which you're not) and that due to that it'd be better not to comment on it. What the hell are YOU doing in a DC training thread in the first place? That's what i'd like to know.
h0other
Well-known member
I guess i'll just go with impreziv's Quote, you obviously are the most intelligent work out star on the forum. Future pro 2011 right?
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Originally Posted by imprezivr6
Werd.. you are the GURU.. Maybe Dante can hire you. You can help him go over DC Training, and fix all its shortcomings, with things that you have used to build 300+ lb bodybuilders over the years, in your vast experience..
Quote:
Originally Posted by imprezivr6
Werd.. you are the GURU.. Maybe Dante can hire you. You can help him go over DC Training, and fix all its shortcomings, with things that you have used to build 300+ lb bodybuilders over the years, in your vast experience..
Sk8erboy
Banned
Once again you refer to me knowing gymrat which I do not second you make second remarks of homosexuality as is all that you can resort to I am starting to think you have problems with knowing the orientation of your sexuality
Second you make remarks to phyisque which your is far less than superior at most average more ignorant statement by this punk
h0other
Well-known member
Please tell me how that makes sense in ANY way. That could go in a english book for exactly how NOT to write a sentence. I am officially dumber for reading that post.
GymRat7197
Member
Calling someone else a homosexual and I'M making this personal? I believe you're trying to cover up for your own sexual insecurities.
Who are YOU to tell someone else what training they're ready for?
Who am I to comment on DC? Do you know a personal rank to comment on the routine? I am a certified personal trainer who thinks it is a routine that should be used by highly advanced trainers with phenomenal strength. Something I'm sure you don't have it, since you're still hesitate to upload your own evidence.
You're still judging people by their statistics and physiques which brilliantly demonstrates you as a newbie. People should have asked Frankie NY his lifts and pictures before trying his routine, right? Once again, ridiculous.
Go have a look at Rippetoes lifts, I'm sure he's "weak" compared to you too. He wouldn't condone DC, go have a read at Joe DeFranco and his training methods at westside barbell, does his +900 lb squat at +50 years old make his eligible to comment on the all mighty "DC" training?
Before I comment on this routine, or anyone else does, please show your "comment on DC pass", you can obtain an comment on DC pass by messaging hoother with your lifts and pictures, salary and information on a book you may possibly write. If you fail to obtain this, you are not allowed to post and comment on "dog crap".
You can get your "comment on DC pass" at this limited offer of only 3 payments of $19.99, but that's not at all. If you do it RIGHT NOW, we'll make on payment for you!
I'm done with this discussion, it's serving no purpose. All it's doing is making this thread look bad, if someone has potential argument to what I said on my elaborating reasons on why I didn't condone the routine, I welcome it and will debate my theories in a civilized manner without critiquing their statistics and physique.
GymRat7197
Member
Right. Height is a factor in your little equation of an acceptable LBM. Have you ever thought maybe I don't want to be a huge anabolic powerlifter/bodybuilder? I would just like to reach an acceptable LBM at about 160, cut down to that and enjoy being lean and strong for my height in comparison to the average joe and NOT elite powerlifters? That's my own personal goals, I would have no reason to attempt to break the world squat record. You complimented my bench press for my LBM a week ago, now you insult it. Shame, shame. Your lack of proof of anything is giving everyone a reason to conclude you have some embaressing statistics. I never once said I was considering DC in the first place, I think they are far better routines and I wouldn't need you to condone what routine I would be attempting anyway. Your "listen to their salary", "listen to their lifts", "look at their physique" in order to gain a perspective on their amount of knowledge dictates your arrogant approach to successfully allowing others to conclude you're a newbie. I even remember you complimenting my progression over the last two years, now it's insulted. Once again, you have absolutely no idea on anything which is why I'm not going to argue with you anymore. It's serving virtually no purpose.
h0other
Well-known member
Where is your video of you benching 265 squatting 235 and deadlifting 300? I want to watch it please.
You act like you have proof by writing it in your signature? I can tell you right now if I told you my lifts you wouldn't believe them and ask for proof so why would I put them up for you to condemn them?
You act like you have proof by writing it in your signature? I can tell you right now if I told you my lifts you wouldn't believe them and ask for proof so why would I put them up for you to condemn them?
GymRat7197
Member
265 lb bench press video is on my workout log, there's a copy on my myspace, you also already saw the picture of a 255 lb bench press taken last summer, due to an injury I was out of training for six months after that and just got really back into training December.
I'll gladly provide a 300 lb deadlift and 235 lb squat video.
I'll gladly provide a 300 lb deadlift and 235 lb squat video.
GymRat7197
Member
Nevermind Hoother, I have a picture of my 260 lb squat about a year ago when I was only 160 pounds if you'd like to see that? That was before my knee injury hence why the squat has decreased significantly. Let me know, I'll provide it.
GymRat7197
Member
My feet was in the air due to me testing a technique to further prevent a back arch. My next heavy push session is in 1 week, I'll gladly take a video of 225 lbs for 5 reps which would allow you to conclude my bench press being at minimal of 40 lbs more than that? Would you like proof of that? I'll be more than happy to supply it.
GymRat7197
Member
Alright then, it's done. My next heavy push session will be on Monday, I'll upload a video of 5 reps with 225, I'll make sure to do the video at night so you can clearly see the weight. There will be a +45, +35, +10 on each side of the bar adding up to 225 lbs. I'll perform 5 reps unassisted using acceptable form and this time my feet won't be in the air.
The 260 lb squat picture will be displayed on my log in the morning, feel free to check it out. I can do 10 pullups, I overhead press 135 lbs for reps and would provide videos of those too, just keep looking at my log, anytime you feel you would like to see me prove a lift, I'll be more than happy to do it.
The 260 lb squat picture will be displayed on my log in the morning, feel free to check it out. I can do 10 pullups, I overhead press 135 lbs for reps and would provide videos of those too, just keep looking at my log, anytime you feel you would like to see me prove a lift, I'll be more than happy to do it.
Random181
Active member
h0other dude why are you even bothering with these tards? DC is the training program with has produced the best gains for the highly advanced bodybuilders, to other the other guys posting in this thread that means the guys more advanced than you could ever dream of being, h0other just leave it mate DC is undeniably the best program and anyone with half a brian can work that out, jesus the fact that DC allows you far more growth phases than any other program should surely be enough to show how much sense it makes but well some people will never be convinced. For those against the program all I will ask is you to read these threads Invalid Link Removed that way you can inleast understand the program before slagging it off. This will be my last post in this thread under any circumstances- I have to eat and work- as dante said the sooner everyone stops overthinking things and just gets out there does something the better
Frank Reynolds
Board Supporter
There is little reason to go back and forth about a training program, these guys obviously don't even understand.. Let alone one that is PROVEN to add strength, and mass rapidly when done correctly, in the presence of proper nutrition.
I never understood why people try and argue, about something, they know nothing about.. You just end up looking stupid.
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Back on topic-
To the guy just starting up.. My advice is before you waste too much time, post YOUR workout plan(exercise selection/rep ranges) over at intense muscle, or here, just to make sure you are fully doing it correctly.. You would be surprised how many people think they are, but waste 1-2 months, to find out they aren't..
I never understood why people try and argue, about something, they know nothing about.. You just end up looking stupid.
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Back on topic-
To the guy just starting up.. My advice is before you waste too much time, post YOUR workout plan(exercise selection/rep ranges) over at intense muscle, or here, just to make sure you are fully doing it correctly.. You would be surprised how many people think they are, but waste 1-2 months, to find out they aren't..
cmp007
Active member
Heres a good idea. Lets not jack my thread anymore! haha. And lets stop the arguing over I can lift this much and prove it in my video. Its all good to each is own no need to brag about it, and weighing 185 and benching 265 isnt really that big of a feat anyways. When I was 18 after 4 months of training my whole life I hit 245 on bench (and thats not eating right, protein shakes and creatine only for about 2 months of that). So thats not really that much. So no more arguing over this were all friends here lol
But I do have some questions. When doing exercises like dead lifts your not supposed to rest pause. So how long should I wait in between sets? And also how long after I finish each body part should I wait to do the stretching?
But I do have some questions. When doing exercises like dead lifts your not supposed to rest pause. So how long should I wait in between sets? And also how long after I finish each body part should I wait to do the stretching?
Frank Reynolds
Board Supporter
Well deads are usually done with a heavy set of 6-8 reps, and a lighter(but still heavy) set to 10-12. So after the first set(heavy or light, whichever you want to do first) just wait until you have recouped, and can go at it again 100%. This might be a few min.
I stretch immedietly after each group *ie finish my chest, stretch, go on to shoulders, stretch, move to tri's, etc... But you can do it in groups *ie train chest/delt/tri.. Then stretch each. Then go onto back...
h0other
Well-known member
x2..
you're right I shouldnt of argued about this stuff, I dont know why it urks me so bad when people dont know what they are talking about.
Seriously I think my favorite thing about DC Training was how it ALWAYS had me wanting to beat the book. I sometimes need incentive to go that extra yard and when I knew that if I got those DB's up one or 2 more times it meant I could write it in my book and go up the next week that helped me TREMENDOUSLY. It may just be my competitive personality, but it really worked for me.
Frank Reynolds
Board Supporter
Yup.. i love that too.. Intensity is like a drug
I love the variety built into it as well. With the exercise selection, and rep ranges, it keeps things fresh.
h0other
Well-known member
I can't seem to find that intensity without DC, it's really weird. I can't wait for this cut to finish so I can get back to it!
Impresiv - quick question, my gym only goes up to 100lb DB's(university gym), what would you do in this case? Considering my incline and flat DB bench are well over 12-15RP and my Shoulder press hopefully would be there in the next few weeks? I dont really like using barbell on DC.. so I dont know what to do.
Impresiv - quick question, my gym only goes up to 100lb DB's(university gym), what would you do in this case? Considering my incline and flat DB bench are well over 12-15RP and my Shoulder press hopefully would be there in the next few weeks? I dont really like using barbell on DC.. so I dont know what to do.
bigrobk
Banned
I agree.... my buddy started DC training bout a year ago and absolutely loves it. For him the strength exceeded his growth but prob cause he stuck to using more machines than compound or free weight movements. But even with that said, he has drastically improved with everything from mind/muscle connection to muscular endurance to strength and he has definately gotten bigger from what i can see. My only stipulation is the fact that you are limited on exercises and therefore dont get as much definition as one might want.
still a great program though:veryhappy:
GymRat7197
Member
I love how people accused me of "now know what I'm talking about". When clearly I've proven that over and over, I think "DC" sucks, get over it. It's like telling these people Santa Claus isn't real.
"Change" in exercises is a bad idea, your goal is to progress in that exercise, inconsistently using exercises can easily lead to inconsistently gaining results, not necessarily a revolutionary concept. On the contrary change in exercises and volume doesn't give your body enough time to respond anyway. The only time you should "change" something is when you plateau.
"Change" in exercises is a bad idea, your goal is to progress in that exercise, inconsistently using exercises can easily lead to inconsistently gaining results, not necessarily a revolutionary concept. On the contrary change in exercises and volume doesn't give your body enough time to respond anyway. The only time you should "change" something is when you plateau.
bigrobk
Banned
I do agree in a way with you though cause ive rarely needed a program because i just monitor my training so ive only plateaued one time in over 5years of lifting since high school. I think whether or not you need a program to help you all depends on your knowledge to know when your about to plateau and the will to just break through it.
It seperates the men from the boys lol
Frank Reynolds
Board Supporter
Db pressing movements SHOULD be done atleast 15-20rp, and can be done in the 15-30rp range.. You got allot of room left. If you run out, you may need to employ the duct tape method..lol
If his strength exceeded size, diet was likely the reason..
With this you show how truly little you know about the program, and just actually gave positive points to DC..lol
That is EXACTLY what you do in DC.. You use the same movements, till you plateau, then swap it out..
So just move on.. You don't even know wtf you are talking about.
bigrobk
Banned
On the other hand though, DC training isnt all about changeing the exercises.
Its about progressive overload from what ive read bout it. You only change the exercises if you plateau and you will eventually plateau. But thats fine though because i believe that little bit of change from switching exercises, definately gives you stimulaion for even more growth.
bigrobk
Banned
so true.... and like i was sayin, i think it gives you even that much more stimulation!
cmp007
Active member
Impreziv: Do you go from chest then stretching then straight to the next or do you have recomp time between body parts? And I started this week shooting for 15 reps with my pressing exercises should I shoot for 20? And should all rest pause exercises aim for about the same reps?
Also is the "r6" at the end of your name mean you ride?
Also is the "r6" at the end of your name mean you ride?
GymRat7197
Member
When you can't think of anything to provide your argument, then you tend to say things like what I've put in bold.
I opened the link to the routine and only found a chest group of exercises, back "width", back "thickness" (thickness is depended upon bulk and calories, not exercises, but I guess I'm "wrong" about that too).
It seems if people disagree with a certain routine on here they're automatically attacked and told they're clueless to training. Simply because it's the easiest approach and once again no one can provide the argument of the benefits of the routine, Mark Rippetoe wouldn't condone the routine either, is he a moron too??
I don't like the routine, I think starting strength, push/pull/legs, Bill Starr 5 x 5 are all much better. I'm entitled to my opinion, whether you like it or not, you've come off as the "don't know what they're talking about" since you can't even provide an argument without person insults.
Frank Reynolds
Board Supporter
DB pressing should be higher in reps because it is a chore to get them up.. So if your doing them in the 11-15 range, that last set you may not even be able to get them into place..
And yes. I used to ride.. Now just in the dirt
What are you talking about..lol I just proved you entirely wrong. Are you delusional?
I don't care what Mark Riptoe, recommends.. He obviously will recommend his program, that is great. I am not commenting on him, or his program, because i don't know **** about it. Just like you obviously know nothing of this program.. I never brought up Riptoe, or any program for that matter..
I could care less what routine anyone uses, but don't try and discredit a routine, based on nothing.. None of your points are valid, and you show a clear lack of understanding of DC.
Not to mention the results speak for themselves. You can't argue with results.. Dantes program is not for everyone, it is for people looking to gain mass, and strength rapidly..
Ps. go over to intense muscle, and check out some of the very advanced powerlifters now using DC.
GymRat7197
Member
How did you prove me wrong? You simply implied I didn't understand the fundamentals of DC, if the exercises change when you plateau, then ok. I still disagree with that essentially though, I believe it'd make more sense instead of using another variation of bench presses when your bench plateaus, to increase the weight by 5 lbs and decrease the reps by about 2 for 2-3 weeks.
I brought up Rippetoe because I believe his program is the more superior in comparison to this one. Particularly the Texas Method which was designed for intermediate trainees.
Results do tend to speak for themselves, my closest workout partner curls every day of his life and has 17" arms. As I've said before, "it works" isn't a legit argument on the part of someone's routine, you can cut your lawn with scissors and say it works.
I never said the program wouldn't work, I'm sure it does. I just disagree with the principles and believe there are other routines that would give the same if not optimal results by sticking to the same exercises.
h0other
Well-known member
I'm not impresiv but I can answer .. give yourself enough time between chest/shoulders to where you can get up all the weight you can get up on shoulders (probably about 5 min), and yes you stretch right after you do that body part. How I understand the Rest-Pause is lets say you do 18 reps on DB bench, well next time you do it again at the same weight. Next time you do 21 reps, but it up the next time. If you do more than 20 reps bump it up in weight, if you do less than 15 reps, bump it down. Until you plateau then switch up the exercise. Different exercises shoot for different RP reps, best thing to do is to read the puppypound at intense muscle and figure it all out exactly. It might take 10 hours of reading but in the end it'll be worth it to know exactly what you are doing. You can even find downloadable example routines.
And GymRat -- I reemphasize, just leave this thread alone. You DO NOT know enough about DC Training to comment on it. Me and impresiv dont go in 5x5 threads preaching how DC sucks and 5x5 is the king of all workouts. It should be the same.
Obviously you didnt "Own" anyone either considering the thread starter is still asking for more information on DC. I think what really happened was --
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And GymRat -- I reemphasize, just leave this thread alone. You DO NOT know enough about DC Training to comment on it. Me and impresiv dont go in 5x5 threads preaching how DC sucks and 5x5 is the king of all workouts. It should be the same.
Obviously you didnt "Own" anyone either considering the thread starter is still asking for more information on DC. I think what really happened was --
wned2:
GymRat7197
Member
Fair enough, I'll agree to disagree and take my ball and go home 
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GymRat7197
Member
Obviously you didnt "Own" anyone either considering the thread starter is still asking for more information on DC. I think what really happened was --
No one "owned" me. People are still yet to allow me to argue my side without calling me a troll or telling me to read the program over and over until I like it. I dislike the program, yet I won't get into another ridiculous name calling debate with you.
jcp2
Active member
I just read most of this and have a headache. Gymrat, one thing you will learn is results speak alot better than any book or article, and one thing about Dante is he has provided the results for a long time. I don't know how his training works for drug free lifters, because i remember his drug protocol, and it was quite a bit. Now he is kind of mainstream and that always makes me wonder because training DC meant hiring Dante back in the day. I think his routine is high intensity low volume, which is good, but can also lead to injuries when done constantly (dorian yates) and i don't beleive in following one man blindly even Louis Simmons.
GymRat7197
Member
That was my main moral, I could see the routine working more for lifters on anabolics rather than someone who trains natural. I also believed it was a routine mainly for higher advanced trainees. With that, I never said the routine wouldn't work, but according to the man on tv, bowflex does too without a diet plan ;-).
But on the contrary, I won't invade their thread. Hoother brought up the point that no one invades the 5 x 5 threads, although if they would it would be welcomed. If someone doesn't understand how 5 x 5 training works, I'd be more than happy to elaborate personally.
But I'll respect the wishes of the thread and go home
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h0other
Well-known member
I'll tell you what, do your 5x5 and show me a video of you doing 315x5 and I will switch to doing 5x5 for the rest of eternity. I will even change my s/n to h0other5x5. Go on to youtube and look at some of the DC videos, they are rather impressive. Also another guy with a VERY impressive physique(drug free) is MrBigPr. He seems like a VERY nice and helpful guy and i'm sure would be glad to guide you in the right direction.
GymRat7197
Member
Guide me in the right direction? I don't need guidance.
315 x 5? For what exercise? My reasons for a low squat is a knee injury mentioned already, I have picture proof of a 260 lb squat, in which I was doing reps with when I weighed just at 160 pounds, if you wish to disbelieve that I was doing reps common sense would be the prime factor in which guidance to make the assumption that it would make little sense for me to squat max without assistance spotters, I would also not to pause at the bottom of the concentric portion to the range of motion to take a picture while I was "maxing".
I don't do deadlifts, It wasn't until recently I included them.
You already complimented my bench press.
I don't see how lifts are relevant to opinions on routines anyway, have a look at Rippetoes program and westside, those are mainly the sources of information in which I obtain, they have guys squatting +900 lbs, westside is the most popular powerlifting organization in the world, so I don't want to hear about high lifts provide education.
315 x 5? For what exercise? My reasons for a low squat is a knee injury mentioned already, I have picture proof of a 260 lb squat, in which I was doing reps with when I weighed just at 160 pounds, if you wish to disbelieve that I was doing reps common sense would be the prime factor in which guidance to make the assumption that it would make little sense for me to squat max without assistance spotters, I would also not to pause at the bottom of the concentric portion to the range of motion to take a picture while I was "maxing".
I don't do deadlifts, It wasn't until recently I included them.
You already complimented my bench press.
I don't see how lifts are relevant to opinions on routines anyway, have a look at Rippetoes program and westside, those are mainly the sources of information in which I obtain, they have guys squatting +900 lbs, westside is the most popular powerlifting organization in the world, so I don't want to hear about high lifts provide education.
cmp007
Active member
Sweet. I have an R6 so was just wondering
jcp2
Active member
i can bench 405x5 that doesn't mean my lifting or my program is superior to anyone. And for the record i did not mean that Dante's program does not work for Drug Free lifters, i just meant that everyone i remember using it was on. But like i said, I remember training DC meant being trained by Dante, not buying a video. Just like the only way you really train Westside as a powerlifter, means you train at Westside.
h0other
Well-known member
Bench.. I honestly dont see how you can say that you're not trying to get huge. You are probably 25% body fat. You are eating huge albeit the wrong things. At 25% you are fatter than most powerlifters, so I dont see why not incorportate a powerlifting routine? It can't be fun being fat and weak. So maybe YOU should be the one switching up your routine and trying something new? People get to 160lb LBM in a year of working out sometimes. These people post nothing on the forum claiming to be the king personal trainer at age 19. Honestly you are just a over-opinionated 19 year old who has nothing to show for his knowledge. If you were so smart why wouldnt you're knowledge be put into your OWN body? You say big people can be dumb, yea they can. However they are doing something that works. Everything I have picked up on my gym time has been from people with bodies I WANT. Every exercise I try is from people who have bodies I WANT. I'm not going to copy what some obese 160 pound kid is doing. I wouldn't advise ANYONE else to either.
GymRat7197
Member
Who is 25% bodyfat? Get your facts straight.
My bodyfat is unknown although it is estimated to be around 21%.
I also gained 60 lbs of mass while ONLY increasing my bodyfat 7%, by the way.
Seeing I'm a college student who has minimal time to cook during the day, my diet is pretty crappy. Once I begin taking less hours I'll fix that, but that's none of your concern.
This is going to be my last post in this thread, but from now on hoother, word of advice, when you wish to debate theories on training principles please do so WITHOUT the personal insults of criticizing the persons lifts, bodyweight and salary. Stick to topic, it only shows your weakness when you use personal insults during a weightlifting debate, it shows you have nothing relevant to the subject to argue about so you use desperate acts.
h0other
Well-known member
Dude you are at least 25%. Man boobs are in the 25+ range. I too am a full time college student taking 15hrs of upper level accounting classes while studying for the CPA. Buy a damn chicken instead of eating a big mac, it's not hard. You need to be insulted because you need to be put into your place and get off this high horse you are riding around the AM town.
And what it shows is that YOU ARE IN NO POSITION to argue anything. Read, eat, lift, sleep and get big then when you have an impressive physique start telling other people how they can acheive what you did. Until then you'd be better off being a mute.
And dont tell me you have no time to cook, you've been posting on this forum for the past 180 hours straight, i'm suprised your ass isn't imbedded into the chair. How about you quit arguing about DC and make you some eggs and a protein shake.
And what it shows is that YOU ARE IN NO POSITION to argue anything. Read, eat, lift, sleep and get big then when you have an impressive physique start telling other people how they can acheive what you did. Until then you'd be better off being a mute.
And dont tell me you have no time to cook, you've been posting on this forum for the past 180 hours straight, i'm suprised your ass isn't imbedded into the chair. How about you quit arguing about DC and make you some eggs and a protein shake.