Any need for Nolva or OTC PCT

TDHAWKS

TDHAWKS

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I have read many people saying there is no need to take Nolva PCT for a 4 week run of either H-Drol or Epistane. Some mention they do not mix well.

Well, I am currently going on week 3 of an H-Drol & Methyl-E "same as Epi" stack, and was curious if I should take Nolva before Reversitol, or skip the Nolva all together for PCT. I would much rather be safe than sorry, but I do not want to take the Nolva if it's not needed or would do harm.

Any thoughts?
 
Some people will say you "don't have to" use a serm with halo or that you can "get away without one." Interestingly, most of those people will also tell you that you should have a serm on hand just in case. That makes no sense at all to me. Just use the damn serm.

Many others will say you'd be a fool not to use a serm with any hormonal product. Especially if you go to other sites that don't have nearly as many supplement company reps.

In my opinion there are only two reasons not to use a serm. You can't get one or you aren't comfortable with research chems. If you live in the US neither one of these things should be factors.

Personally, I'm using torem. It is so much better than clomid or nolva that I don't see why anybody still uses them.

Don't blindly follow what other people say. Ask enough why and how and what if questions that you understand it at a level high enough that you can make up your own mind. And always consider the source.

Don't just ask a million questions that have already been asked before either (like the one you just asked). If you use SEARCH you'll find most of the info you need. Then you can ask questions to fill in the gaps.
 
Someone a little angry this afternoon? I appreciate your feedback, honestly, but if you read what I wrote I did say I have heard, which I am refering to searches I have conducted on this topic. I have a serm, and am planning on running it. I Just dislike the way Nolva makes me feel and was looking at my options. Thanks for your input.

LAGear said:
Some people will say you "don't have to" use a serm with halo or that you can "get away without one." Interestingly, most of those people will also tell you that you should have a serm on hand just in case. That makes no sense at all to me. Just use the damn serm.

Many others will say you'd be a fool not to use a serm with any hormonal product. Especially if you go to other sites that don't have nearly as many supplement company reps.

In my opinion there are only two reasons not to use a serm. You can't get one or you aren't comfortable with research chems. If you live in the US neither one of these things should be factors.

Personally, I'm using torem. It is so much better than clomid or nolva that I don't see why anybody still uses them.

Don't blindly follow what other people say. Ask enough why and how and what if questions that you understand it at a level high enough that you can make up your own mind. And always consider the source.

Don't just ask a million questions that have already been asked before either (like the one you just asked). If you use SEARCH you'll find most of the info you need. Then you can ask questions to fill in the gaps.
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TDHAWKS said:
Someone a little angry this afternoon? I appreciate your feedback, honestly, but if you read what I wrote I did say I have heard, which I am refering to searches I have conducted on this topic. I have a serm, and am planning on running it. I Just dislike the way Nolva makes me feel and was looking at my options. Thanks for your input.
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Your question is "Any need for Nolva or OTC PCT" which has been asked a million times. So asking one million-and-one times is not going to get you a different answer than the previous million. You don't have a unique situation so you come across as someone who hasn't done enough of your own research.

You also say you'd rather be safe than sorry, so IMO you've already answered your own question.

Considering the lack of interest people have in addressing this topic for the umpteenth time I think my answer was helpful and I wasn't angry. If you've already researched I don't know what you are expecting people to tell you, your situation is typical, so many previous threads apply to you. Unfortunately, we can't predict the future and tell you what will happen if you don't use a serm.
 
After about 3 days in I start to get hot and sweaty throughout the day. I also wake up in the middle of the night drenched in sweat. Not the greatest feeling.

orangutan said:
what do u mean by u dont like the way if feels? just curious cuz i felt wierd on it too
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i am planning a future low dose hdrol run, in the begining of july,i have always used serms for pct in the past.. but i am going to be trying an otc pct for this run. i have reversitol, 6oxo, and novedex xt, i am debating on what i will be using, but i plan to have bloodwork done before and after, to see how things turned out. I do have about 1200mg clomid left, so i feel really shut down at the end, which i hope is not the case, i will prob throw in clomid at the begining of pct to restore hpta. I hope i wont need the clomid and the oct products will suffice. I will be logging also.
 
bigzach1234 said:
i am planning a future low dose hdrol run, in the begining of july,i have always used serms for pct in the past.. but i am going to be trying an otc pct for this run. i have reversitol, 6oxo, and novedex xt, i am debating on what i will be using, but i plan to have bloodwork done before and after, to see how things turned out. I do have about 1200mg clomid left, so i feel really shut down at the end, which i hope is not the case, i will prob throw in clomid at the begining of pct to restore hpta. I hope i wont need the clomid and the oct products will suffice. I will be logging also.
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If serms have always worked well for you what is the incentive in using three OTC products that you aren't sure will work (and if you're prone to MPB will make your hair fall out) in place of the one thing that you know will work?

What serms have you used?
 
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