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I wasn't able to workout today :( Can't believe I couldn't have my last upper body day... but my next routine is going to be insane :D

I managed to do some cardio though. Cardio song of the day:
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i read on another site you are also using another tren product along with this.... is this true? or are you just using the CC stuff?
 
Week 3

Today I did C) Legs/abs
I added Romanian Deadlifts into the mix, they're pretty fun.
I went light on everything, but high reps. All the exercises (except abs) were done at 200 pounds.

- Leg extensions- 3x15
- Leg Curls 3x10
- Bulgarian Split Squats 3x12 (used 100s) these always hurt, no matter what weight :P but I was able to get through them perfectly.
- Romanian Deadlift 3x12. These were very easy, but for some reason my lower back was hurting like a bitch today.
- Calf Raises- 3x40. Strength is definitely up here too, I got 40 for the 3 sets.
- I forgot to do the Hamstring Extreme Stretch.... oh well.

My ab circuit suffered today for some reason... I was only able to do 2 sets and half assed.

My ab routine is 3 giant sets of:
- Weighted Crunches, Jackknife Crunches, Reverse Crunches, Leg Raises, 1 plank.

Muscle bellies are full :D

EDIT: Song of the day: Tie My Rope- Children of Bodom
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TexasLifter89 said:
i read on another site you are also using another tren product along with this.... is this true? or are you just using the CC stuff?
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I'm running CC solo (even pct is only CC) on this one.

If I'm not mistaken, you read that at SOM? I have a log there too :D Which strictly says it's only CC products.

I was planning on using that other tren product with this same stack in the future, or with the The One caps I have left.
 
Young One said:
Today I did C) Legs/abs
I added Romanian Deadlifts into the mix, they're pretty fun.
I went light on everything, but high reps. All the exercises (except abs) were done at 200 pounds.

- Leg extensions- 3x15
- Leg Curls 3x10
- Bulgarian Split Squats 3x12 (used 100s) these always hurt, no matter what weight :P but I was able to get through them perfectly.
- Romanian Deadlift 3x12. These were very easy, but for some reason my lower back was hurting like a bitch today.
- Calf Raises- 3x40. Strength is definitely up here too, I got 40 for the 3 sets.
- I forgot to do the Hamstring Extreme Stretch.... oh well.

My ab circuit suffered today for some reason... I was only able to do 2 sets and half assed.

My ab routine is 3 giant sets of:
- Weighted Crunches, Jackknife Crunches, Reverse Crunches, Leg Raises, 1 plank.

Muscle bellies are full :D

EDIT: Song of the day: Tie My Rope- Children of Bodom
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Um, your taking designer steroids which are known to cause back pumps. Take 10g of taurine a day, that should help out.

And hold on a minute, you added RDL today? What kind of deads do you normally do? SDL? Cause your DL #'s at SDL are pretty much impossible IMO.

Why on earth would you drop 400lbs(ish) from your deadlifts while on cycle?... the idea is to add weight bud... And then leg curls at the same weight as your deadlifts? This doesn't make sense at all.
 
Oh so these are the famous back pumps?
I've never had noticeable sides before with my cycles (excluding acne and lethargy) so I actually didn't know :P

Thanks for that man, will start taking it. :)

EDIT: Just noticed your edit.
The 1RM deadlift in the first page is from a normal deadlift. My normal deadlift at the 8-12 rep range is usually 490 pounds.
I added Romanian deadlifts to hit hams and lower back.
All the exercises today were done at 200 because the other weights were being used by some friends (gym at top of house)

Of course I know I have to add weight :P One of my goals is to increase strength :P

** I'll edit the first page with the weight I used before cycle at those rep ranges.
 
I updated the first page with the weight I use at the normal rep ranges.

I'm also considering adding vitex to my supp. list.
 
GMG760 said:
So what was the change up between standard deads and romanian deadlifts? Have I been missing something all this time?
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There was no change up??

Deadlifts are done on back day, and romanian are done on legs day.
The only change up I could think of is that I added romanian deadlifts to the legs day.
 
Young One said:
There was no change up??

Deadlifts are done on back day, and romanian are done on legs day.
The only change up I could think of is that I added romanian deadlifts to the legs day.
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So you are doing them twice a week, or you just changed the day you deadlift and started calling them something different?
 
NM, I guess i just was reading it wrong. You just switched the day you deadlift on. My bad.
 
GMG760 said:
So you are doing them twice a week, or you just changed the day you deadlift and started calling them something different?
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Well, there's a bit of a difference between the two, but they're basically the same.
So you could say I'm doing them twice a week. Another difference would also be that on legs day I go light but with speed.

Sorry for the confusion :P
 
GMG760 said:
NM, I guess i just was reading it wrong. You just switched the day you deadlift on. My bad.
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No no, you were right.
The difference is that on the legs day I go light with speed, and the movement is a little different.

On the back day I go heavy.

EDIT: My routine is up on the first page. In case it clears any future confusion :)
 
Today I did A) Chest/bis. Great workout, amazing chest pump.

- Decline DB Press was 4x12, 150s as a chest warm up and to get a nice starter pump. Smoothly done.
- Bench Press 3x8, 420, that's 5lbs. up and I really didn't go for strength this time, smoothly done so Extreme Mass must have increased bench more than just 5 pounds.
- DB Flyes 3x12, went light with speed, 100s. Amazing pump, loved it. I really like this movement.
- * I edited pullovers out and included pushups. Bodyweight since I haven't done them in a while. Just did 3x50 diamond, for more pump.
- Chest Extreme Stretch
- Standing Concentration Curl (movement made up lol)3x8, pretty nice and clean, warm up for bis. 80s. This has improved, form is perfect so I'd say weight should be up as well.
- Cable Curls 3x8-8-6, 240 pounds. Did them pretty smooth, so these movement also improved.
- Hammer Curls- 3x8, 100s. Perfectly done with not that much effort. Will try increasing weight next workout. My bis were burned on this one.
- Biceps Extreme Stretch

Muscles are rock hard and I've been getting more comments about how my chest is bulging out more than usual :D

Libido is very high, fun week lol.
Only sides so far would be a little acne and the back pumps.

Song of the day: The Way of the fist- Five finger death punch
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Liftingstud said:
I would love to see someone slightly over 180 doing db flues with 100s for speed. Vid please!!!
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Would be nice wouldn't it? Don't think I can atm, but I will get After pictures. I've also read some logs with zero pictures and vague updates, so this one isn't so bad.
What's your flye lifting stud?

I don't know if I stated it before, but it looks like I packed on a little bodyfat. Nothing serious though.

Tomorrow I was supposed to do B) Back/shoulder/tris but I don't know if I'll be able to do it. Something personal came up and I don't know when I'll be back home.
 
Young One said:
Would be nice wouldn't it? Don't think I can atm, but I will get After pictures. I've also read some logs with zero pictures and vague updates, so this one isn't so bad.
What's your flye lifting stud?

I don't know if I stated it before, but it looks like I packed on a little bodyfat. Nothing serious though.

Tomorrow I was supposed to do B) Back/shoulder/tris but I don't know if I'll be able to do it. Something personal came up and I don't know when I'll be back home.
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Yeah that would be nice, to bad your not ABLE to!
 
Young One said:
Would be nice wouldn't it? Don't think I can atm, but I will get After pictures. I've also read some logs with zero pictures and vague updates, so this one isn't so bad.
What's your flye lifting stud?

I don't know if I stated it before, but it looks like I packed on a little bodyfat. Nothing serious though.

Tomorrow I was supposed to do B) Back/shoulder/tris but I don't know if I'll be able to do it. Something personal came up and I don't know when I'll be back home.
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Just realize that Arnold himself wasn't using 100lbs dumbbells for flyes in the "pumping iron" documentary... And he had at least 60-70 lbs on you. You have to understand why people are skeptical man.

Here I'll make you a deal/wager. This is all in good fun, so don't get your panties in a bunch if you don't want to do it. You find a friend with a camera phone that records video (you have to know SOMEONE with a blackberry or something) and post a video of you doing 100lbs db flies for reps. If you don't know how to post video, I will give you my personal email and walk you through it step by step. If you post said video, I will videotape myself literally putting my foot in my mouth and post that for everyone to laugh at. Deal?
 
GMG760 said:
Just realize that Arnold himself wasn't using 100lbs dumbbells for flyes in the "pumping iron" documentary... And he had at least 60-70 lbs on you. You have to understand why people are skeptical man.

Here I'll make you a deal/wager. This is all in good fun, so don't get your panties in a bunch if you don't want to do it. You find a friend with a camera phone that records video (you have to know SOMEONE with a blackberry or something) and post a video of you doing 100lbs db flies for reps. If you don't know how to post video, I will give you my personal email and walk you through it step by step. If you post said video, I will videotape myself literally putting my foot in my mouth and post that for everyone to laugh at. Deal?
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Really?
No video cameras close, but I'll ask the person who will take photos of me to take a video if possible. (that would be after cycle though)

What are your flyes dudes? You all can't seriously be doing flyes with 60s, I know 160lbs. teens who flye with 70s.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
i think that would be entertaining GMG. why after cycle though man? What is the difference.
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At the start I couldn't get any pics (don't have a cam, nor do people I know in my area), but I convinced a friend to travel down here so After pics could be taken. I'll ask the same person if a video can be done.
 
Young One said:
Really?
No video cameras close, but I'll ask the person who will take photos of me to take a video if possible. (that would be after cycle though)

What are your flyes dudes? You all can't seriously be doing flyes with 60s, I know 160lbs. teens who flye with 70s.
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Well you guys must know some training secrets that I don't. The physics of a 160lbs person doing flys with 70's (140lbs total) just doesn't make sense... at least not with 90% of people... that is like Olympic gymnastic athlete tendon strength.

My max flys are about 60-65lbs and usually not for more than 5-7 reps... and I rarely go above the 50's at the moment. I could probably move the 70's, but I have no inclination to put that kind of stress on my rotator cuff.

Dude, when I DB bench the 100's for 6-8 reps I am stoked.

Bro, I think it is great that you can lift this much if you really can. But don't make it out to be something that is so "normal", because it's not. Go look through other logs on here, and there are guys MUCH bigger than what you claim to be moving MUCH less weight. So, either you are a freak or you aren't. But if you really are so freaky strong, do yourself a favor and put a video of yourself lifting up on youtube or something. I guarantee you will get an endorsement from a good supplement company. It can only benefit you.
 
I agree, no way in hell I want to put that much pressure on my shoulders with proper form, etc to fly that much. You strength is unreal for your weight as everyone has said, and we on this forum have had scams before and fake people wasting out time. It is just caution and is suspicious... and then what baffles me is you talking about it like it is nothing... I would join USPL asap if i were you lifting these at this weight.
 
i have also seen people do many things that they call "flys" that arent really flys, more of a wide bench with neutral hand position
so that could be one difference
i know when i go heavier with flys i reduce the elbow angle to take some pressure off the shoulder, i dont get the same stretch but i think it is important to get the muscle loaded with heavy weight sometimes too
 
And don't say we ate hating andv ruining the log...

Just looked at that workout again... Conc curls with 80s!!! And hammers with 100s!!! No longer can Gustova Badell be the "freaking recan"... This dude IS!!!
 
Week 3 updates

Week 3 updates:
Weight- 196lbs. (+14)
LIBIDO- 8/10 (still there, not like before though)
JOINT PAIN- 10/10 (zero)
FOCUS- 10/10
RECOVERY- 9/10 (improved significantly)
PUMPS- 10/10 (best pumps ever)
VASCULARITY- 9/10 (like always)
ACNE- 8/10 (some)
AGGRESSION- 10/10 (great, lift for size!)
STRENGTH- 10/10 (increased a lot)
SLEEP- 10/10 (no problems, like stated before, sleep is even better)
LETHARGY- 10/10 (zero)
WELL-BEING- 10/10 (I'm feeling great :D)
MUSCLE HARDNESS- 10/10 (rock hard)
BODYFAT- 7/10 (bodyfat is up... I still have abs though)
I'm loving Extreme Mass, gains have been great with no significant sides.
 
14lbs son... sweet deal, cant wait to start saturday
and strength should keep goin up cause of the phera
 
It's been pretty awesome so far :D
Maybe wouldn't have added some fat if I did some good cardio, but I hate cardio :P

That's cool liftingstud. A tip I'd give would be to do some cardio when you run it.
 
Young One said:
It's been pretty awesome so far :D
Maybe wouldn't have added some fat if I did some good cardio, but I hate cardio :P

That's cool liftingstud. A tip I'd give would be to do some cardio when you run it.
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why should I do cardio??? If I want to bulk??? I am a true hardgainer... Right now 190 and about 6.5 to 7% bf. I eat 3300 to 3800 very clean cals a day depending on my carb cycling. I do not due one bit of cardio at all because of my metabolism. Esp if I want to bulk cardio is not a option.
 
Those stats are insane. I would love to see a vid of any of those lifts. Actually not the shoulder press.

Maybe you use kilo's where you are from and are converting the numbers to pounds incorrectly?
 
He's from Puerto Rico... Pretty sure they use the English system there too.
 
Liftingstud said:
why should I do cardio??? If I want to bulk??? I am a true hardgainer... Right now 190 and about 6.5 to 7% bf. I eat 3300 to 3800 very clean cals a day depending on my carb cycling. I do not due one bit of cardio at all because of my metabolism. Esp if I want to bulk cardio is not a option.
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Didn't know you were a " true hardgainer ". Was just giving a tip, just in case.
My apologies :P
 
Young One said:
Didn't know you were a " true hardgainer ". Was just giving a tip, just in case.
My apologies :P
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Well one of the products is phera... Which in some has caused bloating/water retension. But I have seen logs that say phera is pretty dry. Have u used phera on it's own? What's your diet? This log needs to have more info than what u say. All you are saying is it works... We have no idea how your strength is increasing workout to workout. You give random workout and just say "great pump" or so on... This doesn't tell us much. Not hating on your log just more detail would be nice.
 
Liftingstud said:
Well one of the products is phera... Which in some has caused bloating/water retension. But I have seen logs that say phera is pretty dry. Have u used phera on it's own? What's your diet? This log needs to have more info than what u say. All you are saying is it works... We have no idea how your strength is increasing workout to workout. You give random workout and just say "great pump" or so on... This doesn't tell us much. Not hating on your log just more detail would be nice.
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I apologize. Thanks for pointing that out, I will try to be more detailed.

My diet is different from day to day, currently just get 3k-4k
I'll try to set up a sample diet soon :)

* At the start this was just going to be a thread with Weekly updates though. These days have been very busy days, but again, I apologize and I'll try to be more detailed.
 
I'm very busy till Tuesday, but I wanted to fill you in on how my diet goes.
On a 3k day, I make sure every meal I get has 40-50g protein, 50-60g carbs, and 10g or a little above fats.

Example: For my post workout meal, when I don't have a shake available to drink, I eat 8-10oz. of chicken with 4oz. of bread and 16oz. juice.

Breakfast is the same as PW meal, but sometimes as a carb source I use oats or hand tossed pizza.

Meals are sometimes all the same, depending on what I have at reach, but I really don't mind.

Sometimes I eat a meal 1 hour after the Post workout meal, most of the time it's 2 chicken sandwiches with cheese.

Most of my meals contain canned chicken, tuna, or turkey.

It really sucks that my last week on the cycle will be bombarded with work, but I promise you my week 4 update, and final review will be very detailed. If you think it's not detailed and need something else, just ask and I'll add it in.

Update on bodyfat: I think it has increased quite a bit (still have abs like I said before) Some people are saying it's just a bloat from the phera, but I really think it's fat.
My chest has been the one with most gains. It has filled up quite nicely, upper chest which always lacked a little has filled up.
I seem to be gaining most of the fat in the abdomen area.
 
So u are 196... Eating 3000 cals... On a 3 anabolics... Putting on fat??!?!?!?!? Hmmm something it's right in my opinion. Unless u have a slow metabolism this can't be... esp with the kind of weight you are moving. Anyone else figure out how he is adding fat??? Unless his diet sucks...
 
Liftingstud said:
So u are 196... Eating 3000 cals... On a 3 anabolics... Putting on fat??!?!?!?!? Hmmm something it's right in my opinion. Unless u have a slow metabolism this can't be... esp with the kind of weight you are moving. Anyone else figure out how he is adding fat??? Unless his diet sucks...
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This is why I lowered calories to 3k. My fat intake was pretty high and carbs low, I changed that though.
However it's not so much like I said. May be a bloat.
You think I'm happy with my fat gain? :P IDK what bf I'm at now, but from the looks in the mirror it's probably 7 or 8.
 
Young One said:
50-60g per meal is after I changed it. It used to be 10g-25g before.

I'm getting an after pic this week.
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what?!?!?! This gets better and better. How much fat were you eating then??? And from what source??? So I were eating 40-50g protein and 10-25g of carbs... You must have been eating some seriously fatty protein sources.

Also love how u can respond in 2 sec... But too too busy to update and run a quality log with consistant updates.
 
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