im 230lb is it ok for hdx2 at 5pills instead?
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thesinner
Recovering AXoholic
lol, if it were all muscle, there'd be no bones, no organs, no skin. You'd look like a pile of hamburger meat or something, and the thought of a wad of meat typing more than impresses me. 
For whatever reason, hyperdrol seems to be very resistance to the necessity of higher doses. I'm pretty sure even big Tim uses 4 caps with excellent results. In the event you are not experiencing much from it, my first response would be to bank it up to 5.
Let's first, however, assess your situation. The design of hyperdrol, and honestly one of the reasons it's my favorite, is not so much to cause something you "feel". Regardless of what any scatter-brained NO2 ad will tell you, you don't feel your muscles growing. I just first off want to make sure we are on the same page when the word, "feel", is being used. You can notice increases in strength, muscle size and/or body composition, appetite, changes in libido, etc.
The next question is how long have you been using this product? The benefits from hyperdrol come from a strong, yet indirect effect caused by enzyme modulation. It can take some time before the effects start to show. From my experiences, the results can be very subtle at the start and sort of sneak up on you. Usually by the end week 2, I'm like "Holy crap! I have been making gains."
For whatever reason, hyperdrol seems to be very resistance to the necessity of higher doses. I'm pretty sure even big Tim uses 4 caps with excellent results. In the event you are not experiencing much from it, my first response would be to bank it up to 5.
Let's first, however, assess your situation. The design of hyperdrol, and honestly one of the reasons it's my favorite, is not so much to cause something you "feel". Regardless of what any scatter-brained NO2 ad will tell you, you don't feel your muscles growing. I just first off want to make sure we are on the same page when the word, "feel", is being used. You can notice increases in strength, muscle size and/or body composition, appetite, changes in libido, etc.
The next question is how long have you been using this product? The benefits from hyperdrol come from a strong, yet indirect effect caused by enzyme modulation. It can take some time before the effects start to show. From my experiences, the results can be very subtle at the start and sort of sneak up on you. Usually by the end week 2, I'm like "Holy crap! I have been making gains."
jay21
Banned
well 1st of love ur 1st paragraph im a big peice of meat 
and now seriosu stuff; i have used it before 2x so this is my third. i usally rarly feel on of it. but today i took 5pills (2 before gym 45min) man i had really good workout. i might stick to 5 for now im gettin better w.o. but i will back down to 4 and see if i feel diff. but i def liked 5 today i got one more tonight. and yes i understand my usually feel'' come around 3rd week thought mass fx is after 1st wk. i like hdx2 alot but for my nxt w.o. on friday ill try 4 and see how it goes. so really? gains dont increase with 5? cuz i know for instance mass fx at my weight requires 6 instead of 4.
and now seriosu stuff; i have used it before 2x so this is my third. i usally rarly feel on of it. but today i took 5pills (2 before gym 45min) man i had really good workout. i might stick to 5 for now im gettin better w.o. but i will back down to 4 and see if i feel diff. but i def liked 5 today i got one more tonight. and yes i understand my usually feel'' come around 3rd week thought mass fx is after 1st wk. i like hdx2 alot but for my nxt w.o. on friday ill try 4 and see how it goes. so really? gains dont increase with 5? cuz i know for instance mass fx at my weight requires 6 instead of 4.
thesinner
Recovering AXoholic
AI-based products, like hyperdrol, are kinda funny. And I mean, it really does depend on your size. I have no qualms with 5 per day. But if you take more and more of an AI, the estrogen levels can become too low, that it inhibits gains.
If you feel 5 is your sweet spot, I say go for it. Just don't get the mentality of "if 5 is good, 6 is gooder".
If you feel 5 is your sweet spot, I say go for it. Just don't get the mentality of "if 5 is good, 6 is gooder".
thesinner
Recovering AXoholic
If estrogen drops to that point, you'd know. You'll have sleep issues, joint pain, aches, and zero libido.
If you are on PCT, that adds a whole different variable to the equation, now. You might not notice anything if taking during PCT, as your natural testosterone levels will be shot.
crazyfool405
Banned
question avout this post...
if bromo only lowers e2 70-80 % (just figures not correct numbers i dont have them on me now)
then wouldnt it not matter how much you use because it still only inhibits that much and no more?
thesinner
Recovering AXoholic
So what? there's no dose-dependence?
At whatever the dose may be, which you are referring to, upon further increasing it, further aromatase inhibition will occur, but selectivity decreases.
Regardless of which, take such statistics with a grain of salt; after all, have you seen the distribution curves? I doubt the absolute range is only 10%.
crazyfool405
Banned
no i have a article on it, it wont let me upload it,
but i figured that once you the max aromatization that can occur, even the increase in the dose wouldnt express any further antagonism.
but what selectivity does these AIs have? arent they non selective and work in full body aromatization?
crazyfool405
Banned
cant remember which one has the info about all the AIs laid out in a chart, but they are all pretty good reads.
thesinner
Recovering AXoholic
Selectivity is a unitless parameter which expresses how effectively it binds to the aromatase enzyme, as opposed to reacting with something else. If they didn't have any selectivity, they wouldn't be AI's.
At max aromatization, you would have no DHT (your natural AI). Do you mean minimum aromatization? That would mean estrogen approaches zero.
crazyfool405
Banned
i mean that it will only lower e2 soo much. once it hits its max point e2 will not get lower.
...?
thesinner
Recovering AXoholic
After looking at the second one, AIs(1).pdf, check out table 1. That's basically what I'm talking about. As the AI:Enzyme ratio increases, aromatization decreases. Increasing the ratio 2-fold doesn't always offer twice the inhibition (it would at a certain dosage, though).
crazyfool405
Banned
so basically once you get to the certain dose needed to achieve maximum aromatization (of 6bromo), if you double that dose it doesnt always mean more inhibition leading to less E2?
dont know why im getting confused