How many people on here are Abusers?

[JOHN BROVO]

Good post, on topic. i think anyone who has not strongly considered their health is an abuser. Also i consider anyone who cycles is an abuser, abuser of their body. This is no different from drinking, smoking and doing other rec drugs since they are done for pleasure, different strokes for diff folks.

Everything has side effects to bodybuilders hormones have mush more desireable side effects or else they would have another hobby/vice.

I dont come to your fourm of choice and complain about you not using AAS, so why do you care about this post?

 

[orangutan]

Orangutan this thread is ballsy considering most ph/steroid users are abusers IMO and likely to strongly defend their choice since they have already risked health for appearance.

I have run half a dozen cycles half of them m1t... what an idiot i was, young in rush to be buff and strong and who cares what my "goals" were it was stupid.

This however is a bodybuilding forum and unfortunately when someone makes it their life mission to be "hyooge" instead of healthy, things get a little blurry around motive, efficacy and physical intelligence.

Theres always going to be some study and some new way to do things but if you dont care about your health why do you workout? To be big to lift heavy weights with a screwed liver and no hair?

I think the OP intent was to ask a very important question about why there are so many guys in their 20's trying to down every new compound. Pulsing, stacking and bridging are retarded IMO, all just stupid reasons to push the envelope and throw caution to the wind in an attempt to get another pound or two or muscle with hormones instead of hardwork.

I know what happens when you cycle ive done it and i ran my pct and ancilliaries but guess what it was never enough. By saying to yourself its ok to take hormones to look better you say to yourself you dont care about your body and your health, you enter into a unwritten contract saying i am open to being unhealthy. So why eat well and excercise? ITs seems bass ackwards to me logically. So if your cycling dont make it like your some good guy hero fighting the peoples war against skinny genetics admit you are vain and insecure and want some muscle to go with your ego.

I still want to cycle sometimes and its oh so tempting to "get on" the next big thing and then life will be perfect! Well if i wind up bald with liver probs, tiny balls and cysts in my body then what will it be for? How many times should i roll the dice with my health?

Flame away.

Thank you.
That was the original point of the post... I knew I would be playing devils advocate to some extent, i also knew it would get out of hand. I knew people would flare up in a rage when they were questioned about thier use....this goes for any addiction. You will likely defend what u are doing to the bitter end. John bro, samva, imprezavr6 are some perfect examples.... the only reason u'd get angry is if u have some denial behind this. why else would u argue with me if u thought i was crazy?....its because u KNOW i have a point. so that was the whole thing i wanted to show i guess towards the end. when ur only debating with opinions and not facts, yes things will get VERY hazzy. Thats why i prefer to not argue with christians...because they threw fact and reason out the window along time ago. which encourages u to say insane things based on faith and fantasy.... but thats off topic youre right.

 

[JOHN BROVO]

Thank you.
That was the original point of the post... I knew I would be playing devils advocate to some extent, i also knew it would get out of hand. I knew people would flare up in a rage when they were questioned about thier use....this goes for any addiction. You will likely defend what u are doing to the bitter end. John bro, samva, imprezavr6 are some perfect examples.... the only reason u'd get angry is if u have some denial behind this. why else would u argue with me if u thought i was crazy?....its because u KNOW i have a point. so that was the whole thing i wanted to show i guess towards the end. when ur only debating with opinions and not facts, yes things will get VERY hazzy. Thats why i prefer to not argue with christians...because they threw fact and reason out the window along time ago. which encourages u to say insane things based on faith and fantasy.... but thats off topic youre right.

Hell I said earlier i was an abuser, no question and no shame, my question is, Y DO U GIVE A F*CK? As far as religon, if I was you i wouldnt argue either, I have more proof of Christ than you do of Darawin or any other crazy fairy tall bullshit!

 

[Frank Reynolds]

the only reason u'd get angry is if u have some denial behind this. why else would u argue with me if u thought i was crazy?.....

Till this current cycle, I haven't done a cycle since 04 or so, so no denial here.. I am not one to lean on drugs as a crutch..

Like mooch said, you are the one trying to justify your own issues..

Lastly, i got mad about your bullshit TRT comments, which were totally off base. I could care less what some steroid abusing, ex junkee, has to say about drug abuse...lol

I guess I would consider a person an abuser if they create permanent health problems for themselves due to their usage.

n8te- You are entitled to your opinion, but long term health problems can come from one cycle.. Would that make one an abuser? Some people never fully recover.. That is the nature of ****ing with your hormones.