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HAVOC help

BoSox 04

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Hey guys-
I'm 23, 6'0, 174. I've been lifting steady for about 7 years now, and am looking to start my second cycle. I have previously cycled Superdrol NG, and I am looking to try HAVOC for the first time. I have done tons of research, and this seems like my best bet right now.

I was looking to get some advice/help from guys who have used HAVOC before (dosage, PCT, support). This is currently what I had in mind for cycle, but please let me know if anybody who has used it before would recommend changes.

Week 1: 20mg 3 days, then 30
Week 2: 30mg
Week 3: 30mg
Week 4: 30mg

I have heard different things for PCT, so I was curious as to what people who have cycled this before have used.

Any advice would really help.

Thanks
 
i am currently running a havoc/1-t tren cycle right now. i have done an epistane and a havoc cycle previously along wit hema and oxyguno stack. Havoc is the best in my opinion so good choice. The first run i did 30 til the bottle was gone. Now i have 2 bottles and am doing 6 weeks 30/30/40/40/50/50. between 30-50 i have read is optimal. so i am puttng it to the test. But 30 all the way through should give you decent gains. As for pct i never really knew too much about it till recently. so the first couple of times i only userd 6-oxo and milk thistle and did fine. gained 13 lbs kept about 9-10. But this time for pct i think i am just gonna pick up the one and use the 2nd gear that comes with it for this cycle. I wanted to use the TRS from pp but i dont have a lot of money right now. plus i plan on running the one after this. also i might get some of that new glycobol from AI looks like i might even add some gains during pct wit that stuff.
 
id go 40 all the way through youll be happy you did, its a moderate dose and not many sides will occur when dosing that low.. i went 30/40/40/50(until i ran out not a full 4th week) if i could do it over i would have went 40-50 mg all the way through.. i made by best gains at 50mg
 
+1 on the no sides... i havent had any sides and even had my gyno cured! I havent ran it at 50 for longer than a week before so i never noticed much but its good to know you made ur best gains, as i am bumping it up to 50 on friday.

BoSox how many bottles do you have? and if only 1 can you get another before you start?
 
ANy hairloss on these doses from those prone to it? MPB....

I know this has been gone over before, but mixed reviews and wanting to hit up as many folks as possible...
 
Spudpunx said:
+1 on the no sides... i havent had any sides and even had my gyno cured! I havent ran it at 50 for longer than a week before so i never noticed much but its good to know you made ur best gains, as i am bumping it up to 50 on friday.

BoSox how many bottles do you have? and if only 1 can you get another before you start?
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Thanks for all the help- I have 1 bottle right now, but i can get another
 
What did everyone do for on cycle support? Also looking to see what the best PCT is in your opinion. Thanks guys- i appreciate the support
 
Def get another bottle or you will fall short in week 4 if you run anything over 30mg... also you dont really need the loading phase those first 3 days you listed.
If you are only doin 4 weeks pct should be a breeze with havoc. just a good test booster and your necessaries (creatine, vitamins, etc). like i said i have never really done any proper pct with havoc and have always kept most of my gains. But hopefully someone else can help wit that since you seem dead set on a good pct.

On cycle i just eat a lot and continue with my same sups as usual. right now i am just takin no shotgun and neovar.
 
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