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Havoc makes you.................

reptone

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HUNGRY!!!!!!!!!!! I started last Wednesday with one per day and Cycle assist. Getting stronger and started eating more. I was getting full halfway through whatever I was eating, whether it was a meal or a shake. Now it`s Thursday, day 2 of 2 pills a day and I can`t get enough to eat. Strength is going up about 20% across the board and I`m craving carbs. I`m trying to restrict carbs a little to lose some fat but I`m leaning out anyway after eating like an animal. I`ll continue 2 a day for the week and start 3 a day on Wednesday. I also have a very euphoric feeling most of the day. No mood swings(so far). The first day my BP was up, but with the Cycle assist and a little extra Hawthorn Berry it`s all good.
 
Ok, I thought it was just me being a fat a$$. I can definitely eat like a mofo on this stuff.

Sense of well being is great too. Pumps, vascularity....this stuff is great
 
thapr3dat0r said:
Ok, I thought it was just me being a fat a$$. I can definitely eat like a mofo on this stuff.

Sense of well being is great too. Pumps, vascularity....this stuff is great
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I haven`t seen the vascularity part yet but I have some fat to drop before that happens. I can`t imagine what next week with 3 pills a day is gonna do!!!!
 
I am on my 3rd week of my Epi cycle and I am getting the same thing.. the last week I have been so hungry all the time, and i am eating like crazy.. I also have had a huge craving for carbs and sugars! Since I started the cycle I have gained almost 4 lbs and my weights at the gym have gone up all around! I am very happy with my cycle currently.. only neg. i am getting is some acne on my neck and a tad on my face.. but oh well....
 
reptone said:
I haven`t seen the vascularity part yet but I have some fat to drop before that happens. I can`t imagine what next week with 3 pills a day is gonna do!!!!
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30-40mgs is where it gets really fun.

nerkle3000 said:
only neg. i am getting is some acne on my neck and a tad on my face.. but oh well....
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Vitamin B-5
Proactive (or it's store available knock off, Acne Free)
Accutane (if it gets really bad)
 
reptone said:
What can I expect from 30 and 40 Mgs?
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Well 40 mgs seems to be the sweet spot for most people, though I have only gone to 30. You should probably expect a pretty good increase in strength and lean body mass depending on your diet.

For me it seems the lower dosages (20-30) give good pumps, vascularity, endurance, and strength with just minimal body weight gains. But everyone responds differently.
 
Hunger is still there. Got some size and weight but shedding a little fat too. Some facial acne that I`m not thrilled with.
 
40 is a comfortable sport for most. In the past I went up to 60 which was too much for me.

You will see nice lean gains with the right diet.

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Has anyone mixed Havoc w/ Tri-MethylX?? that was recommended to me, and planning to start that cycle tomorrow......
 
big daddy said:
Has anyone mixed Havoc w/ Tri-MethylX?? that was recommended to me, and planning to start that cycle tomorrow......
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Damn. I just looked that stuff up. With the Havoc, essentially you'll be taking a four DS stack. Hope you know what your doing bro. Sounds insane tho.
 
I got gyno from havoc 20mg, it s not noticeable but a kind of lump very swool grow behind right nipple, it is slighly painful to the touch.

Beyond that, it s good product. But Superdrol is still the best as i never had gyno with it.
 
i highly advise you to skip over two things i've just read. 1) do not take accutane, especially while cycling 17alpha alkylated steroids. if you think methylation is a bitch for your liver to deal with, think again, becuase its nothing in comparison to accutane. do not combine them. if you must wait until after pct, assuming youll be inducing some liver stress with the serm in pct. and 2) do not take that tri-methylx with havoc, or alone for that matter. there is absolutely no need to down such a kitchen sink of methylated and dimethylated hormones. its actually retarded. ur gonna **** your liver out in the form of a yellow/orange turd. say bye bye as you wave it down the toilet.
 
masterX said:
I got gyno from havoc 20mg, it s not noticeable but a kind of lump very swool grow behind right nipple, it is slighly painful to the touch.

Beyond that, it s good product. But Superdrol is still the best as i never had gyno with it.
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Im curious to see what you ran for pct was a serm or ai involved or did u go otc like reversitol or something like that?

Also did you get rid of it or do you still have it?
 
masterX said:
I got gyno from havoc 20mg, it s not noticeable but a kind of lump very swool grow behind right nipple, it is slighly painful to the touch.

Beyond that, it s good product. But Superdrol is still the best as i never had gyno with it.
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WOW, I'm also curious as to what your PCT was...you may just be the .002% of thousands that claim to have gotten gyno from Havoc and NOT Superdrol!!! Better yet, at 20mgs.
 
It is my last day of PCT, i used Avdanced PCT + Lean FX + (alpha drive xl) include as gift in my order from nutraplanet. My cycle is over since 4weeks. PCT is over and i still have a painful area under my right nipple.

I did not stop using havoc when i got the symptom as my nipple where not growing. It s no noticeable. I hope it leaves even if it doesn t bother me lot but i had to let people know Havoc did a weird thing to me.

Gain were good however and recovery for pct very good.
 
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