i have noticed a lot of sites no longer have Havoc

Probably because the price jumped to $40, where epi and e-stane are still $27-ish....why would you pay more for the name?

But NP and BB have some in.
 
waynaferd said:
Probably because the price jumped to $40, where epi and e-stane are still $27-ish....why would you pay more for the name?

But NP and BB have some in.
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well because RPN was the first to have that compound come out. and IBE has changed the formula a bit like a year ago where Havoc has not. i tried the pre-reformulated epi and it was great..i tried the new one and it was..decent..not as good as the first time..
 
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