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Timberlakers 1-Andro Annihilation (AMS Sponsored)

Manifesto, I'm thinking your combo with the 4-AD could be a goody also!! I'm saving my sheckles as I type. This stuff looks good and not very strenuous on the system.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Manifesto, I'm thinking your combo with the 4-AD could be a goody also!! I'm saving my sheckles as I type. This stuff looks good and not very strenuous on the system.
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I hope so bro...I don't really have the time to start a log but I will try and do a recap kind of a thing at the end....and I will keep you guys updated as well.
 
Irish Cannon said:
DTHC did nothing for me, but I think that's just because I'm already ICHC (Irish Cannon HardCore), which is as HC as you can get.
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How many caps per day were you taking?
 
manifesto said:
How many caps per day were you taking?
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My body produces high amounts of it naturally, but if you can get your hands on a bottle, I'd recommend splitting tablets into quarters and taking them once/day. You will become way too awesome if you take 1 full tablet daily.
 
Irish Cannon said:
My body produces high amounts of it naturally, but if you can get your hands on a bottle, I'd recommend splitting tablets into quarters and taking them once/day. You will become way too awesome if you take 1 full tablet daily.
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Please tell me you're kidding.

It needs to be dosed at 4 to 6 caps ed.
 
I had a let down with DTHC as well Irish. I was up to 8 caps e/d with nothing to show. Win some you lose some...it's all about staying in the fight.
Manifesto, keep us posted on the results please.
 
Nah, truthfully I dosed DTHC @ 6tabs/day and saw absolutely nothing, but everyone else seems to praise it...except Volcom. He didn't see much either. I liked Blue UP with ATD a lot better.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Nah, truthfully I dosed DTHC @ 6tabs/day and saw absolutely nothing, but everyone else seems to praise it...except Volcom. He didn't see much either. I liked Blue UP with ATD a lot better.
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I think we used it for different applications too dude. Both times I used the DTHC for natural test rebound after a cycle...
 
I'm running DTH with 6-oxo right now...been a week and I haven't noticed much yet.
 
DTHC seemed to work better for me during my epistane PCT than my Superdrol. At least I noticed it more.
 
I've tried DTHC 4 times now, and I'll probably end up trying it a 5th, just because so many people swear by it. For me, DTHC is like taking a multi, you know it's gotta be doing something good, but you can't really tell.

I recall having aggression at the gym a few times, but each time was a reaction to some douche doing over-head tricep press and trying to pass it on as an incline press. So, I can't really say, I tend to get peaved at 1/2 ROM people. I may be a ROM Supremest Invalid Link Removed
 
GMG760 said:
He said his libido was lower. Only a blood test could tell how his test levels differed.
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OH okay. The reason i was asking was because im about to run my first PH cycle EVER. And I remember Timber saying that he thought 1 androsterone would be a good PH for a first timer to run. Before i read that i was hellbent on H drol.

Any feedback?
 
buster0371 said:
OH okay. The reason i was asking was because im about to run my first PH cycle EVER. And I remember Timber saying that he thought 1 androsterone would be a good PH for a first timer to run. Before i read that i was hellbent on H drol.

Any feedback?
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Can't lose with either... 1-Andro may actually get my nod now after trying both if only due to the simplicity and lack of methylation.

Same sides, similar results... MUCH better strength with 1-Andro.
 
buster0371 said:
OH okay. The reason i was asking was because im about to run my first PH cycle EVER. And I remember Timber saying that he thought 1 androsterone would be a good PH for a first timer to run. Before i read that i was hellbent on H drol.

Any feedback?
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Well, 1-AD is going to give you probably less sides, even though Hdrol has few sides. 1-AD takes less support supplements because it is non-methyl. Either one would be a good first choice, the difference in price (1-AD being more expensive than Halodrol clones) is probably offset by the need to buy on and post cycle support supplements. It's really your choice.
 
TimberLakers said:
Can't lose with either... 1-Andro may actually get my nod now after trying both if only due to the simplicity and lack of methylation.

Same sides, similar results... MUCH better strength with 1-Andro.
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I think you just tipped the scale in favor of the andro.

Can i ask how many lbs did you gain and keep on h-drol, what dosage?

I think I might run a bottle of decavol along with the andro maybe? any feedback on that?
 
buster0371 said:
I think you just tipped the scale in favor of the andro.

Can i ask how many lbs did you gain and keep on h-drol, what dosage?

I think I might run a bottle of decavol along with the andro maybe? any feedback on that?
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I've never actually seen a log of Decavol.
 
hmm so your saying i need NO SUPPORT SUPPLIMENTS with the 1 andro?!?!?! wow i was gonna waste my money and buy cycle support and post cycle support just now. THANKS

im scared of deca dik. maybe if i kept the deca short like 2 weeks i wouldnt get deca dik or would it not even take affect in that short a time period?
 
buster0371 said:
hmm so your saying i need NO SUPPORT SUPPLIMENTS with the 1 andro?!?!?! wow i was gonna waste my money and buy cycle support and post cycle support just now. THANKS

im scared of deca dik. maybe if i kept the deca short like 2 weeks i wouldnt get deca dik or would it not even take affect in that short a time period?
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No, if that's what you were thinking that I was implying then I am sorry because that isn't what I meant.

You will still need a post cycle therapy from it, and PCS would be a great choice for that. You just won't need a serm, even though some don't even use it with hdrol. I am on the fence of whether or not you need cycle support for 1-andro... it's definitely not a bad idea, but I know a lot of people run it without. It's just non-methylated, so it takes a lot of stress of your organs particularly your liver. Are you taking any support supplements Timber?

Edit: Buster - you might want to consider waiting a few years on pro-hormone use. I know you are 21, but 145lbs is pretty light to be a starting weight, even at 5'7". You could probably pack on considerable more muscle without messing around with hormones... not trying to bust your balls, just thinking out loud.
 
buster0371 said:
hmm so your saying i need NO SUPPORT SUPPLIMENTS with the 1 andro?!?!?! wow i was gonna waste my money and buy cycle support and post cycle support just now. THANKS

im scared of deca dik. maybe if i kept the deca short like 2 weeks i wouldnt get deca dik or would it not even take affect in that short a time period?
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I am really curious as to the conversion rate to actual nandrolone that decavol has... but I wouldn't worry about decad!ck unless you were pinning nandrolone. I would probably be more worried about the effect of properly dosed 1androsterone's effect on my libido than the decavol.

I would run any non-methyl for 6 weeks.
 
oh that was old. Im at 157lbs now. i put on 15 lbs in 2 months. I lifted all through high school and took a 7 month break so i been getting it back fast. 25 lbs total so far. Im more like 5'6"

and of course i know ill need a PCT for the 1-andro. arom x and DTHC + sunami
 
buster0371 said:
oh that was old. Im at 157lbs now. i put on 15 lbs in 2 months. I lifted all through high school and took a 7 month break so i been getting it back fast. 25 lbs total so far. Im more like 5'6"

and of course i know ill need a PCT for the 1-andro. arom x and DTHC + sunami
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If you put on 15lbs in two months you have absolutely no reason to take AAS or prohormones.
 
GMG760 said:
If you put on 15lbs in two months you have absolutely no reason to take AAS or prohormones.
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x 2...G gives good advice!
 
Damn...15 lbs in 2 months, where does the line start?? Spend the money on food and then spend the left over on more food. When you stop seeing results like that mentioned..consider some supplemental help. My 2 cents...
 
KgTomCat said:
15lbs in 2 months, all natty?
:wtf:
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The guy went from 145-160 or so... sounds like his first two months, which often times gains like that can happen, some people just blow up at first. Why squander natural growth with hormones?
 
Alright dude, so support supps... I've been taking Hawthorne Berry the past few weeks to combat what I feel may be side effects from high blood pressure when I upped the dosage. If you run it at 400mg (which I would advise) - you shouldn't need. I've also been taking some other stuff that I run anyway (fishie, wobenzyme, chloryphyll)... Also been taking taurine (must), and RPM for PreWO / lethargy ( just cause I had it around)...

Do you need any of this stuff? No. Cycle support is certainly overkill because it addresses liver stress - which you shouldn't run into here.

Also, want to touch on what Money said. Please buddy, don't be impatient with your growth. I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, but 15 pounds is awesome... Do you think your growth has stalled?

PCT is up in the air... I have some decent atrophy going on. Like enough where I didn't have to pull my balls out from between my legs for leg press today. So yes, I'm going aggressive... SERM, Test Booster, ATD (arom-x)... As Money said, I've also had a bit of a decrease in my libido for the first time. Its actually kind of refreshing being that I am typically trying to have sex 18 hours per day... and occasionally in the middle of the night.

Hope this answers your questions, if not - let me know.
 
Did legs and arms today... decent day - went 3 sets at 225, no PRs.

Did have a rep PR on leg press today - 8 reps at 12 plates with toes touch stance.

Aside from that - I was a bit rushed. Met up with an old friend from college that was in town. She looked great... also gave me opinions on my relationship - which I'm pretty much thinking about non-stop now. I miss having a good female friend around - my best friend got married off about 3 months ago - and she was pretty much absent for 2 years before that. Chicks have some good advice - even though sometimes you don't want to hear it.
 
Quick note for Volcom.

I've picked up 2 more female clients... First 2 female clients I have that don't necessarily want to focus on boxing - so I'm a little out of my element.

Would love to pick your brain for some routines to run them through - preferably full body workouts. Any ideas?
 
Timb did you run 6 caps all the way through?
 
daaaaaaaang....notice any difference from the 8 instead of 6?
 
TimberLakers said:
Alright dude, so support supps... I've been taking Hawthorne Berry the past few weeks to combat what I feel may be side effects from high blood pressure when I upped the dosage. If you run it at 400mg (which I would advise) - you shouldn't need. I've also been taking some other stuff that I run anyway (fishie, wobenzyme, chloryphyll)... Also been taking taurine (must), and RPM for PreWO / lethargy ( just cause I had it around)...

Do you need any of this stuff? No. Cycle support is certainly overkill because it addresses liver stress - which you shouldn't run into here.

Also, want to touch on what Money said. Please buddy, don't be impatient with your growth. I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, but 15 pounds is awesome... Do you think your growth has stalled?

PCT is up in the air... I have some decent atrophy going on. Like enough where I didn't have to pull my balls out from between my legs for leg press today. So yes, I'm going aggressive... SERM, Test Booster, ATD (arom-x)... As Money said, I've also had a bit of a decrease in my libido for the first time. Its actually kind of refreshing being that I am typically trying to have sex 18 hours per day... and occasionally in the middle of the night.

Hope this answers your questions, if not - let me know.
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yeah i think i totaled around 25 lbs in my first 3 months. but im leveling out now. I'm still gaining some strength and endurance i think that is due to POWERFULL by USP. but actual weight gain i've only gained like 1 1/2 lbs in the past 2 weeks.

hey do you think dhea would help with the loss of libido timber if i decide to run the andro/deca stack?????

you guys are right, i'll probably wait another month or two to make sure i've plateaued before i run the PH.

Also i knowtice some people are on PHs and not even as buff as me? is it possable the PHs hinder you and ruin you in the long run to the point that you cannot gain muscle unless your on PHs?
 
buster0371 said:
yeah i think i totaled around 25 lbs in my first 3 months. but im leveling out now. I'm still gaining some strength and endurance i think that is due to POWERFULL by USP. but actual weight gain i've only gained like 1 1/2 lbs in the past 2 weeks.

hey do you think dhea would help with the loss of libido timber if i decide to run the andro/deca stack?????

you guys are right, i'll probably wait another month or two to make sure i've plateaued before i run the PH.

Also i knowtice some people are on PHs and not even as buff as me? is it possable the PHs hinder you and ruin you in the long run to the point that you cannot gain muscle unless your on PHs?
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There's some people on this board that don't know how to work out or eat that are on PHs... That is why they look like sh*t... Chalk it up to a bad sample size. Don't let your head get too big though man, you're still a buck fifty.

A month or two wont tell you if you've plateaued.

DHEA helps some people. I personally don't care about libido loss. I'm just not taking DHEA anymore since its more likely to be converted to estrogen.
 
buster0371 said:
yeah i think i totaled around 25 lbs in my first 3 months. but im leveling out now. I'm still gaining some strength and endurance i think that is due to POWERFULL by USP. but actual weight gain i've only gained like 1 1/2 lbs in the past 2 weeks.

hey do you think dhea would help with the loss of libido timber if i decide to run the andro/deca stack?????

you guys are right, i'll probably wait another month or two to make sure i've plateaued before i run the PH.

Also i knowtice some people are on PHs and not even as buff as me? is it possable the PHs hinder you and ruin you in the long run to the point that you cannot gain muscle unless your on PHs?
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You are 5'7"... you could very easily get to 170-175 lbs naturally, with simply eating.

I would suggest working out for 3-4 years STRAIGHT and SERIOUSLY before considering pro-hormone or AAS use. If you don't know what it took to get you there naturally, you'll never know how to work out without the hormones, you'll begin to rely on the hormones, and eventually you will end up worse for the wear.
 
TimberLakers said:
There's some people on this board that don't know how to work out or eat that are on PHs... That is why they look like sh*t... Chalk it up to a bad sample size. Don't let your head get too big though man, you're still a buck fifty.

A month or two wont tell you if you've plateaued.

DHEA helps some people. I personally don't care about libido loss. I'm just not taking DHEA anymore since its more likely to be converted to estrogen.
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Yeah my heads not big. I'm just saying that some people on PH and AAS dont even look that impressive. And i know its no MAGIC PILL. But i mean come on...

With the dhea. doesnt AromX take care of the estrogen conversion? especially since your running it durring cycle?

what would you recomend i do timber? should i experiment with natural test boosters like dthc or massfx by themselfs or will it be a waste since im 21 years old and my test levels are already running at optimum levels?
 
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