My Dymethazine log!

overall everything is fine so far well being is good, ive had a few headaches and couple of nights of troubled sleeping. But nothing out of the ordinary.
 
Nice strength man. Product looks promising. So, no out of the ordinary feeling at all? Do you have energy throughout the day? Are you eating heavy? How would you say you feel about this stuff so far?
 
It'd be great if you gave us the scoop on your bloodwork also, rj ... directly after the cycle.
If Iforce is right about their less-toxic claim, everything should be fine.
 
I got my first real sides this weekend. I didnt eat for 7-8hrs sat night and literally fell like i was crippled. One of the worst headaches ive ever had and no energy at all. Last night i slept like **** too felt kinda weird. Ill get back on a consistent schedule this week and we'll see how it goes. Also getting some pretty intense back pumps especially with squats and deads. My bp is running a little high as well 135/90 134/87 139/89 were three readings my fiance took (she is an rn and takes bp's everyday).
 
rj32 said:
I got my first real sides this weekend. I didnt eat for 7-8hrs sat night and literally fell like i was crippled. One of the worst headaches ive ever had and no energy at all. Last night i slept like **** too felt kinda weird. Ill get back on a consistent schedule this week and we'll see how it goes. Also getting some pretty intense back pumps especially with squats and deads. My bp is running a little high as well 135/90 134/87 139/89 were three readings my fiance took (she is an rn and takes bp's everyday).
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Ok, my guess is it was a blood pressure headache especially since you know it was up. Do you have hawthorn Berry, Niacin, Celery seed? These will all work. I had a terrible one a week back and it was triggered by too much salt intake. Hawthorn Berry and Celery Seed worked wonders. Cheers, angel77
 
yeah i agree we will see i have cycle assist started taking it sunday its got all that good stuff in it. Im going to try and get some cardio in as well.
 
rj, re-reading your first post, you plan to consume this product at least for 6 weeks.
Would it not be a good idea to check your lipid levels etc after 4 weeks - to make sure everything's fine there?

And: why didn't you take cycle assist from the beginning? Just laziness, or some special reason?
 
didnt think i would need it....i will check lipids. i checked them b4 cycle as well my cholesterol is really low i dont remember the exact level but tc was well below 200 LDL well below 70 and HDL pretty good somewhere around 60. I'll get the test results out sometime soon and post im pretty sure i still have them filed away somewhere. I think I am just having a bad couple of days with lack of sleep and diet has been off....but never a bad idea to get a lipid check...thanks.

My bp is usually pretty good but occasionally runs a little high especially when i eat too much sodium...which is a bad habit of mine. Im more concerned about the bp to be honest than lipids.
 
rj32 said:
didnt think i would need it....i will check lipids. i checked them b4 cycle as well my cholesterol is really low i dont remember the exact level but tc was well below 200 LDL well below 70 and HDL pretty good somewhere around 60. I'll get the test results out sometime soon and post im pretty sure i still have them filed away somewhere. I think I am just having a bad couple of days with lack of sleep and diet has been off....but never a bad idea to get a lipid check...thanks.

My bp is usually pretty good but occasionally runs a little high especially when i eat too much sodium...which is a bad habit of mine. Im more concerned about the bp to be honest than lipids.
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Yeah, the lipids are no sweat. They will go back to normal after pct. As for the bp, I have that problem too on cycle. Naturally its low, but my last "on" it went crazy high. HB helped the diastolic, but systolic remained high. Recent studies support the idea that diastolic is the more critical one, as I'm sure your aware. Get some hctz if is gets out of hand. Good luck on the rest of the cycle, what are the physical gains like?
 
i have been taking cycle assist which has plenty of hb in it. I am mainly concerned with diastolic last night it was 94 which is too high! Systolic was 134 which is high but not too bad and like you said diastolic is more troublesome. Im dropping down to 15mg a day. I think that will be plenty and hopefully decrease sides alot. I wont allow myself to continue cycle if bp does not come down.

My gains have been great.
 
The crucial thing will be - how much of your gains will be kept once you are natural again.

I think this is, besides the sometimes ugly sides (or preferrably, lack thereof), the ultimate quality characteristic of any roid.
 
Yeah I'll be first to admit I should of known better than to start at 30mg (impatience is a bitch!) Anyhow skipped monday bc was not feeling well:

Update 2/10/2009 (Arms/forearms)
wt. 228 (this is after really feeling like **** and eating like **** saturday, sunday and monday)
Close Grip 325 1x6 325 1x5 385 1x1
Skulls 100 1x6 110 2x6 (i consider the bar 10lbs could be wrong...who cares)
BB curls 135 1x6 145 2x6
db curls 55's 1x6 70's 1x4 (too heavy cheated too much on 70's will adjust)
 
Maybe Iforce should think about 7.5mg or 10mg caps instead. I can't see how too many ppl are going to be able to tolerate 30 or 40mg. I cant take the 30mg anymore and im a pretty lean 228lbs. Not too many ppl messing with this stuff are my size.
 
Spargel...i think honestly i'll be able to keep most of my gains from this. One thing is I don't feel shut down at all libido is great. My only real complaint has been the bp which is feeling better today after taking only 15mg yesterday around 530pm.

Yeah typically slow steady and keepable gains are the desirable ones.

I'll keep loggin on here and my other board through pct if you guys want me too. I use these forums as a journal for myself as well.
 
I call myself "us guys" and would absolutely love to see you continuing this log.

From what you have written, it's obvious that 45 mg should under all circumstances NOT be consumed by users of this DS who are smaller than a Brock Lesnar ... so Iforce definitely has some clarifying to do here.

How about going for a 4 week "sneak out" cylce from now on where you take 15 mg every day for the next 2 weeks, than every 2nd day in the 3rd week and only twice in the 4th week. PCT would follow.
 
rj32 said:
i have been taking cycle assist which has plenty of hb in it. I am mainly concerned with diastolic last night it was 94 which is too high! Systolic was 134 which is high but not too bad and like you said diastolic is more troublesome. Im dropping down to 15mg a day. I think that will be plenty and hopefully decrease sides alot. I wont allow myself to continue cycle if bp does not come down.

My gains have been great.
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Yeah, that is high. I had to take 2 grams of hb twice a day to see any significant change in bp. Mine was about the same (140/96), and I was quite concerned because I usually sit at 110/70.
 
same here mine is usually pretty low so i think the change is causing me to feel much worse than some ppl might. i have seen some guys barely over 200lbs using 45mg/d and not reporting much makes me wonder. Ill get it checked again tomorrow night. I feel like its running lower today.

Spargel...i may try something along those lines....
 
One comment, ok, several, on the blood pressure issues -

Are you experiencing any bloat? Also, think about making an effort to lower your sodium intake, especially if you've ever been overweight for an extended period of time, like me, lol.. It can lead to increased hypertensive sodium sensitivity.

Maybe try out an AI, or even an herbal low-dose diuretic. That should certainly help you bp.
 
great log, could you just give your opinion comparing to other designers you have taken? in terms of strength, mass, size, etc.
 
first two weeks was loving it these last few days have been rough. designers ive taken=xtreme tren, p-plex, andro(back few yrs a ago). This is the best so far for strength, mass etc, but that was on 30mg/d. Ive dropped down to 15mg/d so we will see at this dose...i think it will be enough.
 
Update: 2/11/09 Shoulders/Traps
Seated military press 185 1x6 205 1x6 225 1x4
DB presss 100's 1x6 90'x 2x6
 
its not my entire workout i dont count wt or reps with traps or most other auxillary lifts...just core lifts
 
A lot of Back and shoulder exercises train traps anyway. I used to do shrugs with dumbells as an extra traps workout but i have abondoned that. Rows and shoulder exercises get them plenty good for me
 
ive actually gotten more comments about my traps than any other body part...cept maybe sholders, and i dont even do anything for them specifically. my strongest lifts are dead, and horizontal rows...example dead ~400, bench ~250. do a lot of near max deads :)
 
Update 2/13/09 Chest
Flat Bench 335 2x6 405 1x1
Incline Bench 295 3x6
db incline bench 120's 2x6
 
glad you are doing good. I have 5 days left of my dymethazine cycle. 2 caps per day. I've gained about 10lbs. i've taken in no extra calories. and been cardio training also.

I think the 15mg per cap is fine, it just goes to show, everyone is different, my bp is fine. dymethaizne to me is everything and more it was supposed to be, and I love the stuff.

we'll see how pct goes. good luck on the rest of your cycle.
 
i think a 10 or 7.5mg cap would be much more sensible honestly and allow more flexibility...oh well
 
LilPsychotic said:
From what I understand, Dymethazine is two methasteron molecules bound by two nitrogen atoms. Doesn't it just get cleaved into two superdrol molecules during first pass?
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Good luck with your cycle RJ32. Sounds like powerful stuff.
 
Update 2/1609 legs/calves
squat 495 2x4

I'll get a wt tonight and update tommorrow.

Overall: i like this stuff i think ive acclomated to it now and im good at 15mg if it were possible maybe splitting a 10mg cap into two doses for 20mg a day may be a good idea.

Positives: Big increase in strength, slight but significant increase in weight, libido up, great pumps, increase energy in the gym, i love going to the gym on this stuff, no gyno, dry weight.

Negatives: Increase in bp, back pumps, calf pumps, difficult to do cardio, little acne/oily skin.
 
Could you possibly be a little more descriptive with your workouts. Like maybe include all the exercises and whatnot. Just a request, not a big deal. Also, I may have missed it, but did you post pics?
 
no pics and i dont feel the need to post anything but compound mov'ts i honestly dont even do that much more and dont base strength progress on auxilary mov'ts like preacher curls or side laterals im really going for more of a pump with those exercises
 
i posted pics but took them down i dont really like having pics posted on the internet sorry.
 
rj32 said:
i posted pics but took them down i dont really like having pics posted on the internet sorry.
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Alright. No big deal. No disrespect, but It's hard for me to put any faith in a log that doesn't include pics. Crop your head out of it if you're worried about your face out there on the net.

I'm out. Best of luck for the rest of your cycle/log.
 
i feel like im being short with you let me give you an example of a typical workout

Chest:
Incline bench 3 working sets 4-6 reps
db incline bench 2 working sets 4-6reps
weighted dips 2 working sets 4-6reps
cable flyes 2 working sets 4-10reps

My workouts typically take about 40-60minutes tops and are very intense. I have made more progress training like this than anything else I have tried (been training about 11yrs and have tried almost anything you can think of). Also, my training partner has made great gains training with me like this for the last 4 months. Hope that helps a bit more.
 
Gator Alum 03 said:
Alright. No big deal. No disrespect, but It's hard for me to put any faith in a log that doesn't include pics. Crop your head out of it if you're worried about your face out there on the net.

I'm out. Best of luck for the rest of your cycle/log.
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If I recall correctly, the dude is pretty fukcing jacked, lol.
 
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