1st timer Havoc/F-drol, wanna review?

bangnbounce

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Wanting to do a 6 weeker, 1st cycle other than a 4 weeker of PP's Dermacrine.

Week 1: 150mg Fdrol / 20mg Havoc
Week 2: 150mg Fdrol / 20mg Havoc
Week 3: 150mg Fdrol / 30mg Havoc
Week 4: 150mg Fdrol / 30 or 40mg Havoc
Week 5: 150mg Fdrol
Week 6: 150mg Fdrol

Hoping to get ripped up off of the Furaza in the last two weeks, not sure if I should up the dosage though, hearing that it's underdosed.

Additional Supps: Fish Oil, Celery Seed Extract, Milk Thistle (will be taken while ON and during PCT, just not sure how much to take of each...)

PCT: Plan on Liquid Tamixofen Citrate, should I get 600mg or 1200mg, and which dosage plan?

I also have a bottle of RPM by Applied Nutraceuticals, not really sure why I have it but I understand it could be used during PCT??

I also might have about 3 weeks worth of Sustain Alpha, sense I quit using it after a week of the Derma, didn't really think it was necessary. (may start up again tomorrow depending what yall say.)

Thanks alot guys, sorry for another annoying "grade my cycle plan" lol
 
Yea I meant Furazadrol. And, I have heard it is underdosed. 200-250mg ED? How does my PCT look also? Thanks for the quick reply.
 
i would say prob 250-300mgs on the furazadrol. pct looks ok...u have a start..heres what i would do:

nolva week 1-4 20/20/10/10
PCT ASSIST or PCS week 2-5..dosing per directions on bottle
Cort Blocker weeks 3-6
creatine
other support supps.
 
bigpapa said:
i would say prob 250-300mgs on the furazadrol. pct looks ok...u have a start..heres what i would do:

nolva week 1-4 20/20/10/10
PCT ASSIST or PCS week 2-5..dosing per directions on bottle
Cort Blocker weeks 3-6
creatine
other support supps.
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Most people usually do the PCS weeks 3-6.

And cort blockers arent necessary IMO
 
bangnbounce said:
Cool isn't 6OXO a cort blocker? I could be incorrect but I think it is. Also any ideas on the RPM??
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6oxo is not a cort blocker..it is an anti-e..but since ur using nolva u wont need it. i wouldnt u rpm..id go with like pct assist or pcs
 
Thanks guys, I guess I could use EndoAmp from PP, for a cort blocker?
Also my friend is trying to tell me to get 'letro' (not sure of chemical name) instead of nolva, I have always heard nolva is the best overall SERM which would yall use?
 
bangnbounce said:
Thanks guys, I guess I could use EndoAmp from PP, for a cort blocker?
Also my friend is trying to tell me to get 'letro' (not sure of chemical name) instead of nolva, I have always heard nolva is the best overall SERM which would yall use?
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Go nolva.
 
bigpapa said:
i would say prob 250-300mgs on the furazadrol. pct looks ok...u have a start..heres what i would do:

nolva week 1-4 20/20/10/10
PCT ASSIST or PCS week 2-5..dosing per directions on bottle
Cort Blocker weeks 3-6
creatine
other support supps.
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looks good but i would do a cort blocker from day one Low test usually increases cortisol when are you at your lowest test? at the beginning of PCT before the nolv has had a chance to get you back up and running so that's my reasoning behind cort blocker from day 1
 
bangnbounce said:
Thanks guys, I guess I could use EndoAmp from PP, for a cort blocker?
Also my friend is trying to tell me to get 'letro' (not sure of chemical name) instead of nolva, I have always heard nolva is the best overall SERM which would yall use?
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some like nolva;

I like clomid or combo tamox/clomid

Most old schoolers will tell your clomid. I know Palumbo recommends clomid over Nolva.
 
Think Im gonna go with nolva, any reason to have clomid on hand just in case? Also thinkin of just stickin to Havoc this time around, for 4 weeks. Do yall think I could cut up on it if I eat extremely clean and up my cardio? Wanting to lose a lil belly fat before I float the river down in San Marcos.... Thanks.,,...
 
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