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Havoc / 3-AD Stack this Spring???

BigFish80

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I'm starting to put together a early spring stack that will add quite a bit of size but still keep me some what lean. I've run Havoc up to 50mg/wk in previous cycles with great results (207lbs to 222lbs in 4 weeks - maintained 10lbs), but never used 3-AD. Don't want to up the Havoc dose any futher, so I figured might as well stack it with something mild as far as sides go. I've heard these should work pretty well together, but haven't really seen to many logs with this stack. I'm looking for suggestion on dosing and how to run these together for a 4-6 week cycle. Once again just kicking around ideas. Probably run tore or nolva for PCT as I have both of these left over from previous stacks. Also probably will run from PCT into a early summer cut. Open to other ideas as well. Plenty of time to think and plan. Thanks for the input.
 
I wouldn't take 3-AD if you want to stay lean. At your weight you would need a good 6 to 8 pills a day to make it even worth it. For a month that would be about 3 bottles. For every 2 pills you have to take 15g to 20g's of fat for absorption. You will definitely gain some fat on this cycle. Stack it with something like Tren or the new 1-T.
 
Thanks for the response. Have you run 3-AD? what was your experience with the compound? Since I'm stacking 3-ad with Havoc I should be able to run it at a lower dose. Right? Thinking of dosing the Havoc at 30-40mg / day.
 
I ran it on my last cycle. I ran it at 6 pills per day for 6 weeks. I gained about 10 lbs going into PCT. It did make me hold some water so about 4 lbs came off once PCT started. I had to do a sh!t load of cardio to combat all the fat eating. I did enjoy it but I still wouldn't run it less than 6 pills per day even if stacking it with something else. I would have ran it at 8 pills per day but it requires so much fat for absorption.
 
sounds like a stack but thing is the amount people say you need for a successful run of 3ad. Thats why i was putting mine in the supplement auction awhile back. If you need so much then why would you need PCT if you only ran one bottle 3ad solo for a month which would be 3caps ed for 30days. Pretty garbage right there. I was thinking of running 3 caps for 30days with only Battle Fuel for "pct". idk man the stuff just doesnt seem worth it. Maybe a fairly high dose Havoc cycle with just taking the 3 caps 3ad preworkout in one dose? Idk shoot me an offer if you want to get my bottle..
 
What to Stack???

Ok Piston, so you and titanium have pretty much talked me out of the 3-ad. So what compound would you stack along side the Havoc? Titanium seems to be saying T-1 or Tren which I'm ok with. I'm curious as to what you think, seeing as though you and I are around the same size. Once again looking for a lean bulk followed by a cut after PCT going into early summer. Anyone else?
 
I think Halo/Tren would be optimal for a paradoxical "lean bulk."

Both are known for their metabolic properties and both should render decent musculature.
 
I think Halo/Tren would be optimal for a paradoxical "lean bulk."

Both are known for their metabolic properties and both should render decent musculature.

Never done Halo. How does it stack up to Havoc/epi? Looks like gains are similar, just more sides associated with Halo. Still, mild on the sides though. I will say that I like what I hear about Tren in regards to most feel the effects almost from the first day. Lots of logs on trenadrol, but a little concerned due to the fact that there seems to be some issues around what compound it exactly is. Thoughts.....

Sort of split at this point. Maybe Havoc/3-ad or Havoc/tren or Halo/tren.:think:

I just hate to get away from Havoc b/c I always respond well to it and I just feel sooooo good while on it. The only side havoc has given me is that I never want to stop taking it.:lol:

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