MrDiode
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Prologue
Ok. Maybe not that deep. Maybe even a little bit short.
Kind of an underneath route.
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Experience
In early 2006, RPN released Havoc only to have it quickly 'countered' by IBE's Epistane. I was a lurker on a certain other board at the time and after watching the back-and-forth between a certain "PA" and a certain "DR" I sided with "PA" in the argument and bought myself some Havoc.
I had no prior experience with pro-anabolics but I did my homework. A successful run of Havoc took me from 155lb to 172lb. It was a 4-week cycle that maxed @ 40mg and was a wonderful introduction to the world of back pumps. And by wonderful, I mean shitty.
Cycle Support was used throughout (the original with the inkjet-printed paper label! We didn't have fancy 'flavors' back then!) and the SERM of choice was Toremifene as it was both:
a) The new kid on the block and full of praises
b) Half the cost of Nolvadex
A clean diet of ground beef, chicken, and protein shakes with total abstinence from alcohol was followed. Gains were clean and BF remained below double digits. Liver support caps were used in combination with the Torem and side-effects were nil. Libido actually increased!
The above is what happens when you do things correctly.
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Experience TWO
June 2007. Still had some leftover Havoc and Epistane was on sale. Sitting at about 168lb at the time and got the itch. Cycle wasn't planned, ran out of Cycle Support early on and took my sweet ass time getting more. Went on a few drinking binges too. Dosing was even sloppy, sometimes missing days for pills and days for workouts too. This resulted in a 5lb gain that disappeared as quickly as it came on. Minimal Toremifene was used afterwards but the damage was done. Diet was also sloppy.
Bad user! No donut!
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Experience the THIRD
February 2008.
I decided to be an adult and do things the right way this time. The market had suddenly flooded with Superdrol clones and I saw my chance. You're getting bored of my stories and anecdotes by now, so you can just search my history if you want the details of the cycle.
Went from 172lb to 189lb. Incredible amounts of pain and discomfort in the final two weeks where dosage hit 30mg. Learned about the need Cissus/Fish Oil/etc. a bit too late in that cycle. Popped 1000mg Taurine caps to fight my way through the pain. Gains were enormous in strength and size. Because of this cycle I had to go out and buy new jeans -- my waist stayed the same size, but my legs would no longer fit. What a terribly great thing to endure.
Plenty of Cycle Support and a brand new bottle o'Toremifene cleaned up the plate. Libido was dead during the end of the cycle but bounced back very quickly. I love you, SERM.
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Present Day:
I'm down to 175lb. I did cut a little so I could be faster on the field, but it just doesn't feel right. Additionally, this was more conditioning than anything else so I let my diet slide too much and a nice pouch has formed where abs should be. After getting some bloodwork done in late August, my doctor requested I lay off creatine (Ethyl Ester in my case) due to its 300% more than normal reading in the results. This likey contributed to at least 5lb of lost weight and an "average" decrease in overall strength. The good news is, my lipid panel was the same as ever. Gee, I wonder what I'll do with a healthy liver...
While M-Drol was great and all, the side effects were just too much. I walk to the train station every day and then walk from Penn Station all the way to Park South. It was excrutiating on M-Drol. By comparison, Epi/Havoc have never given me side effects outside of back pumps at max dosage. Also, wouldn't ya know it, Epistane is on sale again!
Just like the M-Drol cycle, this one is being run right before a vacation. Last time it was the Virgin Islands because we didn't have passports.. this time it's all out to Italy! We leave November 17th.. that gives me a good window of time for a...
PULSE CYCLE!
I'll be going by the traditional formula and adjusting dosage as necessary. I work out Tue / Thu / Sat due to the football league I'm in scheduling games on Sundays.
I plan to run 10 / 20 / 30 starting week one and going through the motions from there. For reference, today starts week one because something came up yesterday and I missed some gym time (IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN!).
I'm entering my third week of DoggCrapp and will see how pro-anabolics work with his.. er.. 'methods'. I'm suspecting they should help me out on dumbbell lifts which for some reason I always struggle with form-wise.
Off days will be Cycle Support and Cissus. PCT I am still unsure of. I know SERMs are generally seen as overkill on pulsing, but what if they were the sole therapy used? Is that even an option or would OTC caps like AI's PCS be preferrable? Inquiring minds want to know.
Diet will be cleaned up.and hopefully mirror the following:
Breakfast:
Egg whites, Kashi Crunch w/ locally bought fresh fruit, 1/2 grapefruit, 12oz grapefruit Juice
Snacks:
Bare Natural Granola Protein Plus, Plain Pretzels, High-Protein All-Natural Oatmeal w/ Flax Oil, Protein Shakes
Lunch:
Big Calories. Preferrably from Carbs and Protein, but the big lunch is the only lenient meal of the day.
Snacks:
Moar snaxxx same as above.
Dinner:
I love to cook. My kitchen has everything from Ponzu to Molasses. I buy quality local meats and whole foods. I'm going to focus more towards the leaner cuts during this phase and try to keep the carb count down around dinner time in order to (hopefully) lean up some of the BF I've accumulated between M-Drol and this.
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Chapter One
Alright.. it's gym time! Anyone reading? No?
ose:
How bout now??
Ok. Maybe not that deep. Maybe even a little bit short.
Kind of an underneath route.
--
Experience
In early 2006, RPN released Havoc only to have it quickly 'countered' by IBE's Epistane. I was a lurker on a certain other board at the time and after watching the back-and-forth between a certain "PA" and a certain "DR" I sided with "PA" in the argument and bought myself some Havoc.
I had no prior experience with pro-anabolics but I did my homework. A successful run of Havoc took me from 155lb to 172lb. It was a 4-week cycle that maxed @ 40mg and was a wonderful introduction to the world of back pumps. And by wonderful, I mean shitty.
Cycle Support was used throughout (the original with the inkjet-printed paper label! We didn't have fancy 'flavors' back then!) and the SERM of choice was Toremifene as it was both:
a) The new kid on the block and full of praises
b) Half the cost of Nolvadex
A clean diet of ground beef, chicken, and protein shakes with total abstinence from alcohol was followed. Gains were clean and BF remained below double digits. Liver support caps were used in combination with the Torem and side-effects were nil. Libido actually increased!
The above is what happens when you do things correctly.
--
Experience TWO
June 2007. Still had some leftover Havoc and Epistane was on sale. Sitting at about 168lb at the time and got the itch. Cycle wasn't planned, ran out of Cycle Support early on and took my sweet ass time getting more. Went on a few drinking binges too. Dosing was even sloppy, sometimes missing days for pills and days for workouts too. This resulted in a 5lb gain that disappeared as quickly as it came on. Minimal Toremifene was used afterwards but the damage was done. Diet was also sloppy.
Bad user! No donut!
--
Experience the THIRD
February 2008.
I decided to be an adult and do things the right way this time. The market had suddenly flooded with Superdrol clones and I saw my chance. You're getting bored of my stories and anecdotes by now, so you can just search my history if you want the details of the cycle.
Went from 172lb to 189lb. Incredible amounts of pain and discomfort in the final two weeks where dosage hit 30mg. Learned about the need Cissus/Fish Oil/etc. a bit too late in that cycle. Popped 1000mg Taurine caps to fight my way through the pain. Gains were enormous in strength and size. Because of this cycle I had to go out and buy new jeans -- my waist stayed the same size, but my legs would no longer fit. What a terribly great thing to endure.
Plenty of Cycle Support and a brand new bottle o'Toremifene cleaned up the plate. Libido was dead during the end of the cycle but bounced back very quickly. I love you, SERM.
--
Present Day:
I'm down to 175lb. I did cut a little so I could be faster on the field, but it just doesn't feel right. Additionally, this was more conditioning than anything else so I let my diet slide too much and a nice pouch has formed where abs should be. After getting some bloodwork done in late August, my doctor requested I lay off creatine (Ethyl Ester in my case) due to its 300% more than normal reading in the results. This likey contributed to at least 5lb of lost weight and an "average" decrease in overall strength. The good news is, my lipid panel was the same as ever. Gee, I wonder what I'll do with a healthy liver...
While M-Drol was great and all, the side effects were just too much. I walk to the train station every day and then walk from Penn Station all the way to Park South. It was excrutiating on M-Drol. By comparison, Epi/Havoc have never given me side effects outside of back pumps at max dosage. Also, wouldn't ya know it, Epistane is on sale again!
Just like the M-Drol cycle, this one is being run right before a vacation. Last time it was the Virgin Islands because we didn't have passports.. this time it's all out to Italy! We leave November 17th.. that gives me a good window of time for a...
PULSE CYCLE!
I'll be going by the traditional formula and adjusting dosage as necessary. I work out Tue / Thu / Sat due to the football league I'm in scheduling games on Sundays.
I plan to run 10 / 20 / 30 starting week one and going through the motions from there. For reference, today starts week one because something came up yesterday and I missed some gym time (IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN!).
I'm entering my third week of DoggCrapp and will see how pro-anabolics work with his.. er.. 'methods'. I'm suspecting they should help me out on dumbbell lifts which for some reason I always struggle with form-wise.
Off days will be Cycle Support and Cissus. PCT I am still unsure of. I know SERMs are generally seen as overkill on pulsing, but what if they were the sole therapy used? Is that even an option or would OTC caps like AI's PCS be preferrable? Inquiring minds want to know.
Diet will be cleaned up.and hopefully mirror the following:
Breakfast:
Egg whites, Kashi Crunch w/ locally bought fresh fruit, 1/2 grapefruit, 12oz grapefruit Juice
Snacks:
Bare Natural Granola Protein Plus, Plain Pretzels, High-Protein All-Natural Oatmeal w/ Flax Oil, Protein Shakes
Lunch:
Big Calories. Preferrably from Carbs and Protein, but the big lunch is the only lenient meal of the day.
Snacks:
Moar snaxxx same as above.
Dinner:
I love to cook. My kitchen has everything from Ponzu to Molasses. I buy quality local meats and whole foods. I'm going to focus more towards the leaner cuts during this phase and try to keep the carb count down around dinner time in order to (hopefully) lean up some of the BF I've accumulated between M-Drol and this.
=====
Chapter One
Alright.. it's gym time! Anyone reading? No?
ose:How bout now??
