No way, you will get the great endurance from C5 and the rag will bring the pump. You will love it. I am running C5 and CRE-02 right now and I am loving it, the pump is insane and you just do not want to stop.
I agree with fire. C5 with caff free rok (my stack for a long time) is one of the best combinations i've ever run for weight training as well as for cardio activities. Awesome for sports as well like swimming, hockey, baseball, etc.
Cordygen 5 is insane! I have been stackng it with intrabolic this past month and my endurance is insane. I have been keeping maintence level of caloric intake and haven't lost any muscle and improving my endurance greatly.
the creatine in ragnarok is plenty enough for the stack you'll be running. Cordygen is a stand alone product and can be used unassisted, but works very well with other products of the MST line
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