Eric Potratz
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Posted by: Dr.D Aug 14 2007, 06:08 PM
QUOTE(IronFist @ Aug 13 2007, 10:30 PM) *
Didn't realize this was a t-nation.com-type forum, "bro."
You do need to back up guy, because the advise you gave him was only half true at best. Who says you don't want a little anti-androgen in PCT? Not me! That raises test even faster and more directly than an anti-e does, plus I highly suggest against 6-Oxo! 6-Oxo probably binds AR's too, or else there would have been recomp noted in it's university study. Even the author of that study suggested it's likely competing with test for receptors or there would have been characteristic results expected from the blood parameters seen. There were not, no improvements noted at all. Taking 6/day (600mg) was also quite detrimental to LH levels and raised DHT very high, BAD NEWS IN PCT! If you use it, take 1 or 2 max, seriously.
Please don't try to take over my forum unless you give more sound and objective advise next time.
Posted by: Dr.D Aug 14 2007, 06:22 PM
QUOTE(Infernus @ Aug 12 2007, 11:53 AM) *
... The ingredients on my bottle of Formadrol for 1 capsule is:
20mg
1,4,6-etioallocholan-dione 4.5mg
Diadzein 20mg
So is what I have planned up fine or is there something in Formadrol that shouldn't be taken at the same time as Mass FX?
This is an odd product. Are you sure it's not a standalone anabolic supp? If it is designed for PCT, it should not contain a pure androgen like 3a-Hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one and the other two ingredients seem somewhat redundant as they both possess significant anti-a activity. These three ingredients seem to cancel each other out. It may not be strongly suppressive but I would still not use it, at least not daily, in PCT.
MFX elevates SHBG levels and is perfect for PCT. It also contains sterols that are shown to raise gonadotropin and subsequent testosterone levels too. I would not dream of PCTing without it, it makes it so much nicer to deal with! If you've every tried it in PCT, you know what I mean. thumbsup.gif
So Dr. D says to run an anti-androgen, but then he suggests against 6-oxo? [which is an anti-androgen]. I know he is a smart guy, but I think he needs to work on his theory here, as his comment didn’t make much sense. I personally wouldn’t want to run an anti-androgen [6-oxo] for PCT.
Messing with SHBG for PCT… ?? eh… sounds nonsensical to me. I can think of more important factors to be modulating.
-Pp