nunes "montana method" cycle log
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hman85
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I have heard mostly good things about gear from the balkan area. Some say it can be painful though, but some don't so you will see .
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
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Looking good in here bro:thumbsup:
nunes
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ready to war brother:numbered:
nunes
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monday
thundergod
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And I'll be exactly 2 weeks behind you there brother nunes!! I've been clean for 2 months now. But it feeels like it's been 2 years. I'm ready to be ON!!! :bb3:
nunes
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get ready for the onslaught TG , were gonna kick some ass bro:saw:
That pussies in my gym will see the difference between a sayian and a super sayian
By the way for those that still don't know I ordered some sustain alpha to use on my second week on, the guys of PP made a thread saying that it prevents shutdown , well I`m sceptical but I`ll try it anyway, hope it works
thundergod
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Prevent shutdown??!! I don't know how or why they would claim that!! I don't think that's possible no matter what. Isn't their Sustain Alpha just DHEA? And even though it's in a transdermal, I still can't see it totally preventing shutdown. It might have been better for them to say it "eases" the effects of shutdown. But I would be skeptical of even that possibility. I can't wait to hear your feedback on it nunes. I trust you to give only honest feedback. I know you won't be giving out reports on the placebo effects. :thumbsup:
tnick7
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nunes
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I was amazed too, but see this thread:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/102527-prevent-testicular-shrinkage.html
I believe there's no dhea in this new formula and about the unbiased reports , you can count on me my friend
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thundergod
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I hope this works for you bro. Myself, I wouldn't put a lot of trust in 7,8 Benzoflavone. I hate to be a "negative-Nancy" here, but when something sounds too good to be true.....usually it is. But I have been wrong with my assumptions in the past, so good luck. And I am very anxious to see how you do on it. When I do my next heavy suppressive cycle, I will just get some real Hcg for myself. We know it works!! :thumbsup:
nunes
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yeah , hcg is proven and works but I think it doesn't make sense to use in a short cycle like mine, even if the 7, 8 B dont work the recovery shouldn't be a problem
thundergod
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Yeah, I know. I wasn't suggesting for you to use hcG, I was merely stating that for my heavily suppressive cycle coming up, that I will opt for the hcG. You'll be fine, even if the 7,8 Benzoflavone is less than miraculous. Which I'm sure it is! Have fun with this cycle nunes. It's almost that time brother!! Time for you to get stoked!!! :aargh: YEAH!! :bb3:
nunes
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today I gonna play some soccer and in the weekend I go to Lisbon to see my team FCPORTO to play against the benfica pussies , at night I`m going to party :cheers: and I`ll give my body a rest for this 3 last days before cycle.
Monday I `ll take this cycle very seriously, no drinks , no days off and just 1 girl(my girlfriend), lol.
Thanks to all for this prelude my bros
Monday I `ll take this cycle very seriously, no drinks , no days off and just 1 girl(my girlfriend), lol.
Thanks to all for this prelude my bros
thundergod
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Have a great weekend and a wonderful time bro. :cheers: PM me and give me the link for your log when it's started. It's gonna be 1 sweet ride!! :head:
Ziquor
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I think 7,8 Benzoflavone has great potential but keep in mind it's still an herbal supp that's been around for years, just starting to be used in this industry as of late. Nothing will prevent shutdown, and DHEA can lead to shutdown for that matter, dose dependent :thumbsup:
Ziquor
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nunes
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yeah , I`m not counting in miracles but if it helps not even a little bit it will be good for me, lets hope it works cause it will be a good thing to all
I think there's no dhea in this formula?
that's why I only do short cycles:lol:...
Ziquor
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Right, Sustain just contains the two herbal AI's 7,8 Benzo and Resveratrol. Their website says for best absorbtion to apply it to the balls! And it recommends shaving the area for maximum effectiveness. Maybe your girlfriend can help you out on that
nunes
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no one put a blade in my balls except me, lol , that way she could get her revenge on my Brazilian holidays:nutkick:...Right, Sustain just contains the two herbal AI's 7,8 Benzo and Resveratrol. Their website says for best absorbtion to apply it to the balls! And it recommends shaving the area for maximum effectiveness. Maybe your girlfriend can help you out on that
and I think I`ll pass that ball shaving, seems to me that could become even more dangerous than all the toxic stuff I`m taking on cycle...
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thundergod
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My wife is the perfect goddess. But I still opt to shave my own "coin-purse"!! LOL I've done it before nunes. I don't use a razor however. I use one of those things you've seen advertised on televsion for women to shave their underarms and bikini line with. They show it going over a balloon to show you that it won't cut you! That thing really works well. Or, you could use a beard trimmer, just be careful! :thumbsup: Tomorrow's the big day nunes!! Are you psyched up yet??!! I'm excited for you brother! I'm only a week behind you on the fun. I'll start my next cycle a week from tomorrow. It's going to be bad ass!! :head:
nunes
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thanks
24h and then the journey begins, all set up and lets hope customs don't block the sustain , thanks TG I appreciate your motivation bro, your a real friend :thumbsup:
pistonpump
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i use a razor for the record. :ntome:
tnick7
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A_I_Sports_Nutrition
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This razor to the family jewels is making me squirmish
nunes
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OK my bros , day 1, my plan was to begin all the stuff today but my brother asked me to play soccer(sorry bros but I really like to play soccer) and I decided not to start the mass and the andriol and wait one more day , the day I`ll hit the weights...
But since primo is a long ester I shot myself today, and what can I say about it , completely painless, very smooth and since only 1 hour passed nothing more to report about it.
I`m very confident in this cycle and just for the record my training days will be:
weights:biceps and triceps,Tuesday
legs and abs, Wednesday
back,bis(1exercise only) Thursday
soccer, Friday
chest,tris(1exercise only) Saturday
rest, Sunday
soccer, Monday
shoulder and traps , Tuesday
repeat
I don't pull all the groups in a week period cause I really train very hard the large muscles so I like to hit them solo, I used to train all in a week but I found that I have better results with this regime, I rest more and I control my elbow and shoulder tendinitis with no problems.
RESUME: First shot, nice and clean, no pain at all
tomorrow bis and tris , mass and andriol, I`ll post after my training I hope with good news...
But since primo is a long ester I shot myself today, and what can I say about it , completely painless, very smooth and since only 1 hour passed nothing more to report about it.
I`m very confident in this cycle and just for the record my training days will be:
weights:biceps and triceps,Tuesday
legs and abs, Wednesday
back,bis(1exercise only) Thursday
soccer, Friday
chest,tris(1exercise only) Saturday
rest, Sunday
soccer, Monday
shoulder and traps , Tuesday
repeat
I don't pull all the groups in a week period cause I really train very hard the large muscles so I like to hit them solo, I used to train all in a week but I found that I have better results with this regime, I rest more and I control my elbow and shoulder tendinitis with no problems.
RESUME: First shot, nice and clean, no pain at all
tomorrow bis and tris , mass and andriol, I`ll post after my training I hope with good news...
A_I_Sports_Nutrition
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Give it hell bro
thundergod
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All Right Nunes!!! It's On!! I'm glad to hear there was no pain. Where all do you plan to inject on your body? I still can't seem to be able to grasp the idea of pinning into my biceps, calves, or traps!!! OUCH!! Unless the needles are much sharper than I'm imagining. Time to crank up the intensity to Super-Saiyan level 3!! :head::bb3: Invalid Link Removed
Unless the needles are much sharper than I'm imagining. Time to crank up the intensity to Super-Saiyan level 3!! :head::bb3: Invalid Link Removed
nunes
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very cool vid TG, it brings back old memories of DBZ, THANKS but let me tell you, I`ll be very satisfied with the level 2, lol.All Right Nunes!!! It's On!! I'm glad to hear there was no pain. Where all do you plan to inject on your body? I still can't seem to be able to grasp the idea of pinning into my biceps, calves, or traps!!! OUCH!!
As for the place I inject well I believe the best spot is the glutes, really bro, no pain at all...
Tonight I report about the cycle
really????????
looks painful...
hman85
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Not at all i love them they feel the best out of anywhere imo. I have had a couple azz shots that hurt like a *****!
nunes
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day 1
DOSAGE: 6 andriol divided between lunch and dinner, 1 mass tabs before wo
WEIGHT: nothing to report
STRENGHT: nothing to report
SIDES: nothing to report
RESUME:
first official day on the weights, hard training but no news about the overall felling.
today will be the primo second shot and I have a question to you guys:
Mass tabs with or without food, I`m taking as the recommendations 30m before wo, but it says nothing about the meals, what do you guys think about it?
DOSAGE: 6 andriol divided between lunch and dinner, 1 mass tabs before wo
WEIGHT: nothing to report
STRENGHT: nothing to report
SIDES: nothing to report
RESUME:
first official day on the weights, hard training but no news about the overall felling.
today will be the primo second shot and I have a question to you guys:
Mass tabs with or without food, I`m taking as the recommendations 30m before wo, but it says nothing about the meals, what do you guys think about it?
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Knowbull
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Its okay, you use scissors first, then dry shave it, the safe way...
thundergod
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Here comes a long answer your way! Be patient with me here! Of course you'll get different opinions from different people. When do you eat your pre-workout meal? 2 hours before workout? If so, I'd take the Mass Tabs right after that. Give 'em at least 1 and 1/2 hours to fully kick in before training. It puzzles me as to how a compound such as Mass Tabs (or other hormonals) could reach peak blood concentration levels in only a half an hour!! I don't know why a lot of hormonal supplements are recommended to be taken this way. I'm of the opinion that it's better to take these things at least 1 and 1/2 or 2 hours before working out. I had a friend that recommended to me to take my D-Bols at least 3 hours before working out. I was very bewildered at first. :think: Then he showed me a graph that shows blood level concentrations of the D-Bol after 1 hour, then 2 hours and so on for the entire 6 hour half life that D-Bol is suggested to have. It was at hour number 3 that the highest blood level concentrations of Testosterone was observed. My friend rationalized that this would be the optimal time to train therefore. It made lots of sense to me. I told him that I had merely been a sheep following the rest of the flock saying to take all gear 1 hour before working out. Now I wait at least 2 hours before training. I want to make sure that my "juice' has fully kicked in. I hope you will give this some consideration in your dosing schedule nunes. Maybe you could experiment with it for a few days to see if you notice any difference in performance in the gym! I know that you have an open mind when it comes to these things. Good luck bro!! :thumbsup:
nunes
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great answer TG, I also think that taking aas earlier make a lot more sense , but I was just following the directions, either way I think you`re right so lets try it 2 h before wo with meal:food:l...
THANKS
tnick7
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Yeahh Nunes, havent really been on past two days, but I'm back for this :head:
Mass tabs is methylated so with food isnt absolutely necessary, but I seem to remember PA saying all orals with food. You also want to take it 1-2 hours pre w/o, so I say take it with the a pre w/o meal/shake. Thats what I did with my first dose of SD. I think there is less chance of upset stomach etc when taken with food.
Good to hear injection was painless bro!
nunes
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Thanks for your answers TG and tnick, yesterday when I had the doubt I made an e-mail to IDS and the answer was this:
"Thank you for your interest in IDS Sports products.
Mass Tabs should be taken without food. In the unlikely case that the tablet causes stomach upset, take the tablet with your first meal of the day.
Remember do not take Mass Tabs for more than four consecutive weeks. Do not take more than one tablet per day. Follow the four week cycle with at least four weeks of Post Cycle Tabs before taking Mass Tabs again."
well you both have right on the food , thanks guys
this e-mail remind me that I still have pct tabs and I love those tabs, so in pct I`ll skip the formestane this time and take them instead , they really work on me and I think is the best choice after nolva
"Thank you for your interest in IDS Sports products.
Mass Tabs should be taken without food. In the unlikely case that the tablet causes stomach upset, take the tablet with your first meal of the day.
Remember do not take Mass Tabs for more than four consecutive weeks. Do not take more than one tablet per day. Follow the four week cycle with at least four weeks of Post Cycle Tabs before taking Mass Tabs again."
well you both have right on the food , thanks guys
this e-mail remind me that I still have pct tabs and I love those tabs, so in pct I`ll skip the formestane this time and take them instead , they really work on me and I think is the best choice after nolva
nunes
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guys I just made an order of prelox for my pct, this product its making a huge success in Europe and I think this is good info to all of you:
SEE THIS:
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Improvement of erectile function with Prelox: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover trial.Stanislavov R, Nikolova V, Rohdewald P.
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Medical University Sofia, Faculty of Medicine, Sofia, Bulgaria.
In a randomly allocated, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover design, 50 patients with mild to moderate erectile dysfunction (ED) were treated for 1 month with placebo or a combination of L-arginine aspartate and Pycnogenol (Prelox). Patients reported sexual function from diaries. Testosterone levels and endothelial NO synthase (e-NOS) were monitored along with routine clinical chemistry. Intake of Pycnogenol for 1 month restored erectile function to normal. Intercourse frequency doubled. e-NOS in spermatozoa and testosterone levels in blood increased significantly. Cholesterol levels and blood pressure were lowered. No unwanted effects were reported. Prelox is a promising alternative to treat mild to moderate ED.
PMID: 17703218 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Akush Ginekol (Sofiia). 2007 ;46 (5):7-12 17974175 (P,S,E,B) [Sperm parameters in male idiopathic infertility after treatment with prelox]
[My paper] V Nikolova, R Stanislavov, I Vatev, B Nalbanski, M Pŭnevska
The diagnosis of male infertility is determinate after assessment of sperm quality and clinical study. In nearly 30% of the cases nevertheless detailed clinical and laboratory study it can't be discovered the cause and on the bases of exclusion criteria set the diagnosis idiopathic infertility. The object of our study was investigation of the group patients (n=50) with idiopathic infertility treated with Prelox and to be studied its effects on spermatozoa parameters. MATERIAL AND METHODS: The study design was double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over, randomized study, including introduction period (1 month), two therapeutic periods (each one of 1 month) separated with 1 month wash out period and concluding period of 1 month. There was applied a new method for treatment with mechanism of action stimulation the production cGMP of spermatozoa endothelial nitric oxide synthase (eNOS). This is not surprising achieving results show improvement of sperm quality. The methods of the study were: 1. Assessment of the conventional semen analysis (according the criteria of WHO, 1999). 2. Spermatozoa function tests. 3. Spermatozoa-cervical mucus penetration tests. RESULTS: The obtained results showed improvement of sperm quality, in the middle-aged men the therapeutic answers was better than in younger. In conclusion the therapy with Prelox improve sperm parameters in men with idiopathic infertility. Pycnogenol (one of the constituents of Prelox) has powerful antioxidative influence ameliorating spermatozoa function.
SEE THIS:
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Improvement of erectile function with Prelox: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover trial.Stanislavov R, Nikolova V, Rohdewald P.
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Medical University Sofia, Faculty of Medicine, Sofia, Bulgaria.
In a randomly allocated, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover design, 50 patients with mild to moderate erectile dysfunction (ED) were treated for 1 month with placebo or a combination of L-arginine aspartate and Pycnogenol (Prelox). Patients reported sexual function from diaries. Testosterone levels and endothelial NO synthase (e-NOS) were monitored along with routine clinical chemistry. Intake of Pycnogenol for 1 month restored erectile function to normal. Intercourse frequency doubled. e-NOS in spermatozoa and testosterone levels in blood increased significantly. Cholesterol levels and blood pressure were lowered. No unwanted effects were reported. Prelox is a promising alternative to treat mild to moderate ED.
PMID: 17703218 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Akush Ginekol (Sofiia). 2007 ;46 (5):7-12 17974175 (P,S,E,B) [Sperm parameters in male idiopathic infertility after treatment with prelox]
[My paper] V Nikolova, R Stanislavov, I Vatev, B Nalbanski, M Pŭnevska
The diagnosis of male infertility is determinate after assessment of sperm quality and clinical study. In nearly 30% of the cases nevertheless detailed clinical and laboratory study it can't be discovered the cause and on the bases of exclusion criteria set the diagnosis idiopathic infertility. The object of our study was investigation of the group patients (n=50) with idiopathic infertility treated with Prelox and to be studied its effects on spermatozoa parameters. MATERIAL AND METHODS: The study design was double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over, randomized study, including introduction period (1 month), two therapeutic periods (each one of 1 month) separated with 1 month wash out period and concluding period of 1 month. There was applied a new method for treatment with mechanism of action stimulation the production cGMP of spermatozoa endothelial nitric oxide synthase (eNOS). This is not surprising achieving results show improvement of sperm quality. The methods of the study were: 1. Assessment of the conventional semen analysis (according the criteria of WHO, 1999). 2. Spermatozoa function tests. 3. Spermatozoa-cervical mucus penetration tests. RESULTS: The obtained results showed improvement of sperm quality, in the middle-aged men the therapeutic answers was better than in younger. In conclusion the therapy with Prelox improve sperm parameters in men with idiopathic infertility. Pycnogenol (one of the constituents of Prelox) has powerful antioxidative influence ameliorating spermatozoa function.
Ninjo
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interesting...would the same logic apply to something like PP? you may recall that i will be doing PP for my upcoming cycle in October...thanks bro!
nunes
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I dunno for sure but I believe that all orals have basically the same half life so that should apply to PP also
nunes
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day 6
DOSAGE: the same as planned
WEIGHT: 1kg up(2 pounds)
STRENGHT: Thursday was my last bb training,I still haven't notice strength increases but that's not bad cause remember that I`m off creatine and pre wo supps
SIDES: nothing to report
RESUME:boys ,sorry for the update delay but I was caught in a thread fight on the supp section(I was negged and everything, lol, my first one), about the cycle,well 1 kg up in 5 days and 3 shots I think its not bad, I don't feel any bad sides and my overall mood is good, today will be chest day and Monday I`ll begin with the sustain.
I also would like to share with you guys that andriol seems too mild for a bb cycle, I `m taking 6 caps day and I really don't feel test related sides, I usually have oily skin and I become more aggressive with AI`s , and I was expecting something similar at least but no , no feelings of increased test, so I think andriol its not worth it cause its a very expensive steroid, next time I`ll go with injectable test.
DOSAGE: the same as planned
WEIGHT: 1kg up(2 pounds)
STRENGHT: Thursday was my last bb training,I still haven't notice strength increases but that's not bad cause remember that I`m off creatine and pre wo supps
SIDES: nothing to report
RESUME:boys ,sorry for the update delay but I was caught in a thread fight on the supp section(I was negged and everything, lol, my first one), about the cycle,well 1 kg up in 5 days and 3 shots I think its not bad, I don't feel any bad sides and my overall mood is good, today will be chest day and Monday I`ll begin with the sustain.
I also would like to share with you guys that andriol seems too mild for a bb cycle, I `m taking 6 caps day and I really don't feel test related sides, I usually have oily skin and I become more aggressive with AI`s , and I was expecting something similar at least but no , no feelings of increased test, so I think andriol its not worth it cause its a very expensive steroid, next time I`ll go with injectable test.
thundergod
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I truly appreciate your honesty in reporting on certain substances that just aren't worth the money when considering the amount of gains received from them. You told us last time that Primobolan oral tabs are not effective. Now you're saying the Andriol is also not worth the money as it too is ineffective. Now I know of 2 compounds that I'll never waste money on. Thanks nunes!! :thumbsup:
tnick7
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Looking good bro. Yeah next time I think injectable test would be great. Maybe test prop. Could you mix it in the same vial as the primo (I would guess you could!)?
pistonpump
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told you so on the andriol :rasp:
total crap i would never take it unless it was free.
total crap i would never take it unless it was free.
nunes
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yeah, I`m afraid you`re right about that
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nunes
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I don't know if what is good or bad for me its the same for others but unfortunately TG, I think I`m not the only one with this kind of bad experiences with those compounds, there's better alternatives out there, and cheaper:thumbsup:
I think its possible but I don't know for sure...