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precontest supp thread

Last Thursday went to see my chiropractor, he diagnosed me with bursitis in the shoulder. Knew something wasn't right. I guess it's mild, and may be able to be treated quickly, but I can't do any upper body work for 2-4 weeks, then I'm re-evaluated. Took a few days off, figured out a way to keep my training going (lot's of lower body & cardio) and hopefully I'll be able to maintain my mass thru this. Not counting myself out of competition at this point. Have to see how quick I heal.
Hit a hard leg workout yesterday morning, did some things I hadn't done in awhile. DB split-squats, DB stiff-leg deads, leg extension, leg curl, 15 minutes mountain biking.
 
Dang hope the shoulder heals up...i've been bothered with shoulder issues in the past and when they kept me outta the gym it sucked...hope ya heal up and continue the great progress!
 
Just catching on Steve, that blows about the shoulder.

Hang in there bro, and heal up. With your current size, I would not be worried about the missing your up coming show. Just get your rip on!
 
Thanks Bolt. And Joe, that's exactly what I'm focusing on right now. My guy advised to get in a caloric surplus (aid the body's natural healing), which I did for 4 days, but backed it down again to focus on the shred.
 
Interesting week of training. Had 2 leg days, 2 cardio days, and played tennis 4 days thru the week. Tennis is probably the root of my bursitis I figure; I serve lefthanded and volley mostly righthanded, and part of the drills I work on with my wife are serving to her so she can practice returning a hard serve. I hit triple digits (mph) on my serve regularly & accurately, so I'd fire serves at her for 10-15 minutes in our drills, couple times a week. I'm thinking this repetitiveness is the cause of my issues. Anyway, I just avoided serving in our games this week; tennis is some great cardio, and I get a sun tan too.
I managed to hit some arm work yesterday, lighter weight, slow & controlled on the bi's & tri's so as not to bring the shoulder into play. Was pretty successfull workout. EZ bar curls, skullcrushers, preacher EZ bar, V-bar tri pressdown, cable hammers, reverse pulley tri press, calves. Tennis for over an hour later in the day.
9 weeks out from comp day today.
I'm missing my chest & shoulder work hugely.. :(
 
Had to bust out some light chest work yesterday.. dunno if this was such a good idea. Shoulder felt decent to begin with; did some flat DB presses, working up to 100's. Moved to incline BB and kept it very light, 135 x reps. Finished with DB flyes and explosion incline push-ups, followed with ab work. Tennis later in the day again. Toward the end of the day the shoulder was aching a bit. Rest is a hard thing for me to grasp, but I'm gonna have to do it. I guess if you don't nip bursitis in the bud early it can linger forever. I see my chiropractor again this Thursday, see where I'm at.
One thing I'm doing differently these days in an effort to aid healing is taking Cissus (2 caps) with every meal. Used to take my doses 3x daily on an empty stomach, but got some advice that dosing works better with food. Cissus, work your magic!!
 
Damn, age must be catching up with me, ahaa..
Saw my chiro yesterday, and an MRI showed I have a small tear in my labrum. He must've missed this last time, because it's in the early stages of healing. Bursitis is still present too.
So now I'm out for 4-6 weeks. This pretty much kills my shot at the Natty Indiana. Turning my focus now to the Natural Northern in October, which I'm not too enthused about, but it does give me a chance to avenge my showing there from April.
Aside from being bummed about that, I'm also bummed cuz I went out & bought some kettleballs (first I've owned) and was going to start implementing KB clean presses (which I discovered this movement doesn't stress my shoulder), as well I did some BB floor presses, noting that the limited ROM doesn't stress my shoulder either. All of this was in preparation to move to a modified version of the "300 Spartan Workout" for awhile, but now I can't do that either. Need total rest for upper body. Muscle tears scare me..

EDIT: not trying to bring negative energy to the forum, just wanted to let folks know what's going on. I'll be living vicariously thru others on this site (that means you Semper!). I'll be back when things are rocking again..
 
Ahh sorry man i tore labrum playing football so i know what your going through...my doctor missed mine as well and i played a whole season with it! :eek:

Hope you heal up quick man
 
Damn, age must be catching up with me, ahaa..
Saw my chiro yesterday, and an MRI showed I have a small tear in my labrum. He must've missed this last time, because it's in the early stages of healing. Bursitis is still present too.
So now I'm out for 4-6 weeks. This pretty much kills my shot at the Natty Indiana. Turning my focus now to the Natural Northern in October, which I'm not too enthused about, but it does give me a chance to avenge my showing there from April.
Aside from being bummed about that, I'm also bummed cuz I went out & bought some kettleballs (first I've owned) and was going to start implementing KB clean presses (which I discovered this movement doesn't stress my shoulder), as well I did some BB floor presses, noting that the limited ROM doesn't stress my shoulder either. All of this was in preparation to move to a modified version of the "300 Spartan Workout" for awhile, but now I can't do that either. Need total rest for upper body. Muscle tears scare me..

EDIT: not trying to bring negative energy to the forum, just wanted to let folks know what's going on. I'll be living vicariously thru others on this site (that means you Semper!). I'll be back when things are rocking again..

Lol thats just an update bud, not negative.

However IMO when god throws ya a nagging, annoying, down right irritating upper body injury, you know what you do? Grow some insane wheels in the mean time! :D

Also do you plan on using any supplements to aid in healing?
 
Lol thats just an update bud, not negative.

However IMO when god throws ya a nagging, annoying, down right irritating upper body injury, you know what you do? Grow some insane wheels in the mean time! :D

Also do you plan on using any supplements to aid in healing?

There you go, my philosophy too. When life tosses ya lemons, just make some tasty lemonade! (sugar-free, of course).
I still hold out the slimmest of hope (emotionally) of making this Indiana show. Diet's still on par, and my upper body isn't shrinking as I had feared - actually surprised how much I'm retaining. But (intellectually), I know that the timeframe is just all wrong. Even if I could hold my mass all the way thru, I still can't practice posing for a couple weeks yet. The Cleveland show was in my plans at the beginning of the year, but the Natty Indiana is THE one I wanted. All I can do is do what I can..
And then I go out this morning and tweak my calf playing tennis. Man, I've never had these nagging injuries before, stupid stuff. The calf is no biggie, should be cool by tomorrow, but still..
Cissus is my prime recovery agent. Ibuprofen for the pain. I'm on a kick right now too where I drop 1.4g BCAA's every hour thru the day, trying for that natural "steroid" effect. Seems to be keeping me anabolic as hell.
 
Good wheel day this morning. Busted out a new hammy movement (Joe Franco log) to finish things off, good intensity. Calf was still tight but didn't prohibit me from working them.
Leg extension ss w/ BB squats, DB Romanian deads, leg curls, plate drags (this was the new hammy move), donkey calf raises, standing calf raise (toes angled). Rest was kept to a minimum, still took me 42 minutes to complete. Good stuff..
 
Ran some sprints this morning, 8x60 's. Mountain biking after that. Legs were pretty fried afterwards - Was still tight from Sunday's leg workout. Update pic.
 

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Damn, age must be catching up with me, ahaa..
Saw my chiro yesterday, and an MRI showed I have a small tear in my labrum. He must've missed this last time, because it's in the early stages of healing. Bursitis is still present too.
So now I'm out for 4-6 weeks. This pretty much kills my shot at the Natty Indiana. Turning my focus now to the Natural Northern in October, which I'm not too enthused about, but it does give me a chance to avenge my showing there from April.
Aside from being bummed about that, I'm also bummed cuz I went out & bought some kettleballs (first I've owned) and was going to start implementing KB clean presses (which I discovered this movement doesn't stress my shoulder), as well I did some BB floor presses, noting that the limited ROM doesn't stress my shoulder either. All of this was in preparation to move to a modified version of the "300 Spartan Workout" for awhile, but now I can't do that either. Need total rest for upper body. Muscle tears scare me..

EDIT: not trying to bring negative energy to the forum, just wanted to let folks know what's going on. I'll be living vicariously thru others on this site (that means you Semper!). I'll be back when things are rocking again..


Good luck man. You will be better in no time. Just don't do anything stupid to aggravate it. Us bodybuilders have been known to do that LOL.
 
Thanks Doug. Yeah - knowing how to take time off has never been one of my strong suits, haha..

Did some light DB walking lunges this morning, heavy calves. 30 minutes steady state cardio. My calves are splitting down the middle profusely in the back, this is pretty cool. Really feel my hams are dialing in well too.
 
Update pic just for the helluva it.
What should be 7 weeks out today is now 11 (Natural Northern in October)..
Had a hard time flexing my upper half w/o pain (which I'm s'pose to avoid) so I look kinda timid there, haha..
:blink:
But the reason I post the pic is to show the leg def., real happy with progress here.
 

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Haha! Thanks bro! Not really tho (feeling kinda puny right now actually) but my lower half is feeling good at least. :D
I've bumped the calories a tad recently, @3000-3200 daily for a few days since I'm doing more lower body work, whittling it back down starting today again.
 
Looking great man! Legs got some deep cuts goin on
 
Friday I was able to do some very light shoulder work, felt pretty darn good.. and then I went out & played tennis with the wife.. and tore my right calf muscle. At first I thought I nailed myself with the racket on the follow-thru or something, that's what it felt like. Ridiculous sh!t. So me & the wife's anniversary weekend celebration took a huge hit, as I was couch-bound for the duration. (We had the kids shipped off to the grandparents, all kinds of plans.. so much for that. We improvised & had all kinds of sex all w/e, so at least there was a silver lining! :p)
Anyway, just got into my chiro today, he said I've got a Grade 2 tear, 4-6 weeks recovery as best case scenario. Unfreakinbelievable. I'm becoming quite brittle it seems..
Whoulda thought tennis would be so rough? Other than the occasional sore back from overexertion I've never had any injuries from it. Depressing too - cuz I've been playing the best tennis of my life this summer.
All competition plans on hold for now; rest assured tho, I'll be back.
 
All competition plans on hold for now; rest assured tho, I'll be back.
You still can control your focus bro! The injury is depressing, yes, but...it's only temporary! I began the year with a pretty bad suprasenatis tendon strain in my shoulder... Talk about depressing! You will soon be back to 110% and WILL dominate and destroy the competition!
 
Appreciate the support Semp. Ahhh, focus.. yes, we can still control that can't we? Didn't know you had to battle thru that injury; nice way to overcome man! Well, the shoulder is showing marked progress, really feeling pretty good. Calf is in healing stage too - I can even walk semi-normal now! Definitely gonna go slow & gradual thru the recovery process, but I'm feeling pretty positive about things this week..
 
Dang sorry about this man. Good luck healing up and getting everything rolling strong again :)
 
Thanks Bolt. Haven't seen ya around the board lately (maybe I'm just missing ya), how's your training been?

Everything is going great. Training is going great and i am up to nearly 180lbs now. :D

I am really enjoying my training at home with my lifting partners but soon its time to head back to school...
 
Good progress man. No surprise to me whatsoever.
Can't believe summer's almost over. My kids go back to school the 14th - that just seems insane.
Enjoy the rest of your break bro!
 
Good progress man. No surprise to me whatsoever.
Can't believe summer's almost over. My kids go back to school the 14th - that just seems insane.
Enjoy the rest of your break bro!

Yea my hard work is paying off. Feeling good and i am ready to go back to school...living off campus this year should be exciting :thumbsup:
 
I'm on the mend pretty rapidly here these last few days. Shoulder's feeling pretty decent, calf coming along. I've gotten back almost full ROM in my calf, but it's still swollen & tight. The stretching/flexibility movements I've been doing for it per chiro are on time.
Been doing a bit of light upper body work, mainly bi/tri but some back/chest/shoulder as well, all light stuff for reps. Getting ready to step it up tomorrow..
I'm amazed how quickly my legs disappear on me, quads just declining daily. So.. tomorrow I'm gonna hit some squats. Don't think I'll try lunges, not that much flexibility in the calf to do these quite yet.

Thought I'd post this article, found it to be interesting (if somewhat basic)..



A Look At Modern Diets
By Jake Fannin

Zone, Atkins, Slim Fast, Blood Typing, Metabolic, Glucose Revolution

There are quite a number of diets out there and it can be quite a feat to figure out which one is best for you. I'll summarize each of these diets and make a recommendation as to which I consider the best.

First let me say that there is a bit of a misconception concerning diets. A lot of people consider that they don't need to concern themselves with diets unless they want or need to lose w eight. EVERYONE needs to take a look a their diet. Your diet determines how your body will operate and when you step out of the bounds concerning how your
body burns food you, to a lesser or greater degree, hamper your progress.

Here's a quick look at these diets:

Zone: A sophisticated diet. This diet details how much food you need based on your protein requirements and spreads meals evenly throughout the day. It's philosophy is that most everyone functions best when 40% of your calories come from carbohydrates, 30% comes from protein and 30% from fat. It focuses heavily on regulating insulin levels and hormones.

Atkins: This diet, especially in the beginning phase, is a high
fat, high protein diet. It's one of the first diets to step away from the carbohydrate diet that the AMA has been recommending for the last 15 years. It's not based on caloric restriction to lose weight. Rather, it uses a state called ketosis. This is where you limit carbs so much that your body is forced to break down fat to get enough glucose (the sugar your brain needs for fuel). You can burn off a lot of fat quickly with it.

Slim Fast: This diet is based on calorie counting. It's a high carb diet that basically uses the old fashioned "starvation
technique" to lose weight.

Blood Typing: This diet recommends eating based on your blood type. It theorizes that blood types developed due to
dietary changes that happened as man evolved. For
example: "O" should be meat eaters while "A" should be
vegetarians. This is because "O" (the first blood type) was
man's first blood type, when he ate meat mostly. While
"A" (the next evolved blood type) was the primary type of
man as he moved to an agricultural society and began to
eat more vegetables.

Metabolic Typing: This diet focuses eating according to
the diet of your particular heredity. For instance, the
American Eskimo eats nothing but meat and fat and has
very low rates of heart disease and are generally
healthy. The Mediterranean diet, however, is based on
eating more carbs and couldn't tolerate an Eskimos
diet. This diet, like the Zone, uses food not only lose
weight and get in shape but also to cure chronic physical
problems.

Glucose Revolution: This diet is based on the glycemic
index. This is an index that measures carbs based on
how quickly they are turned into glucose and raise
your insulin levels. It focuses on eating complex
carbs over simple ones but has a lot of the same
messages that the AMA recommends.

So which of these diets are best? Is it possible that
one diet can fit all? The answer is yes. A diet can work
for everyone if it is based on the fact that everyone is
different. There are three diets above that do this: the
Zone, Atkins, Metabolic Typing. Of these three I
recommend the Zone over all of them (also taking into
account some of the Metabolic Typing diet's
recommendations). It's based on genetics and
accounts for the differences of people. It is a diet that
is very precise and requires more on your part than
the others. What other diet has Olympic athletes
used to enhance performance and been shown by
studies at universities like Harvard to be the best in
reducing heart disease and diabetes? If you're not
ready for the type of commitment that it requires,
however, then I recommend Metabolic Typing next
followed by Atkins.

I recommend that you get one of these books
yourself and read all about the d iet that interests
you the most. You need to get all the information
you can to follow a diet closely in order to get all
it's benefits.




It seems Jake left out the USPlabs product-fueled diet! Hmm..
 
I don't believe your legs are going away!!! Very good to hear that you are gettin everything back on track. If one works out long enough... injuries will occur! I'm blasting legs in the morning as well!!! Rock it bro!
 
I don't believe your legs are going away!!! Very good to hear that you are gettin everything back on track. If one works out long enough... injuries will occur! I'm blasting legs in the morning as well!!! Rock it bro!

And a drop-in from the new pro! :D

They're skinny bro, I got a little soft from inactivity, but it's nothing a little work won't take care of!
:clean:
 
And a drop-in from the new pro! :D

They're skinny bro, I got a little soft from inactivity, but it's nothing a little work won't take care of!
:clean:
I think it's in your mind! I've seen your wheels! I'm taking advantage of the post show window of opprotunity! I went out to eat a couple of times last week but stuck to my "bodybuilder" type foods througout the day. Actually ordered salads 3 out of 4 times that I've eaten out. I'm back on track with a few additional lbs and a smidgen of water weight. Ab's are still there but I'm ready to get my grow on this off-season. Could be my imagination but I almost swear to you of at least a couple lbs of LBM since my show. Carbs were never low during prep so I'm in full swing with strength. This WILL be the best off-season yet. Just gots to get some PRIME!!!! :D
 
Ahaa, hear ya on the Prime (who doesn't?). As lean as you got, you were primed for some serious growth so I would not think it's your imagination! Rebound time brother!

:good:


Wanted to start somewhat light & ease my way back into things today, so the goal was to hit about 60%, no more than 75% effort, just get acclimated to the weights again and make sure my calf was cool. Still not doing direct calf work, and wanted to avoid stressing it as much as possible this day, so I did squats and leg extensions followed by cardio. Worked the pyramid up & down, and went up to 265 on ATG squats. Wow, was I weak. Cardio was crazy - legs felt like jello! Will target the hams this weekend.

Quads, cardio
ATG Squats 15/12/10/8/6/12/15
Leg Extensions 15/12/10/12/15
20 minutes steady-state cardio (glider)

Breakfast macros were 485 cals (75c/35p/5f).
Post-workout was 385 cals (35/50/5)

That's it for carbs for the day, other than fibrous. My other 4 planned meals are all around 350 cals.

I'm utilizing 15g BCAA's directly following training (eating 1/2 hr. later), 10g BCAA prior/intra.
 
Lets get this rolling along again...i see your logging some SNS stuff...good luck!
 
Yup.. cycling off Recreate for a minute and trying the SYN-30/TTA-500/RK-125 stack. Looked interesting for my current needs, while allowing me to chill on Recreate for awhile. I like to cycle my supps as a general rule..

Been off Recreate for couple weeks now.
 
:hammer:

Squats put the hammer to me, I'm sore as hell this morning (but it feels good!)..

I need me some Cissus..

Shoulder day today, my first extended direct-shoulder workout since pre-injury. Again staying intentionally light, only went up to 145 on bb military press, and stayed at 25 lb. plate for my plate raises. Dem delts were looking like boulders again, had quite a pump going on, was nice to see that - felt great too!

Shoulders/traps
BB Military 5x6-15
Arnold DB Press 3x12-15
Plate raises 3x15
BB High Pulls 4x12-15
 
Off day yesterday, spent the day chillin'. The idea for this morning was to hit hams fairly hard.. but almost immediately on my Romanian DL warms I felt my calf tightening, so I backed off. Turned it into a light ham/back day..

Romanian DL 3x10-12 (2 warms)
Lying leg curl 3x10
Deadlift 3x10
Incline D-grip pulleys 4x12-15
Pulley Rows 4x10/8/8/6
DB Rows (off inclined bench) 3x15

20 minutes steady-state cardio (glider)

I'm thinking of running a lean bulk, get my off-season started instead of cutting up again, thinking it would behoove me more at this point. I still had hopes in the back of my mind of competing in early October, but I decided I want to be at my best before I step on stage again. So.. I dunno, I'll ponder this for awhile.
 
Weights are feeling a bit more manageable this workout, decided to bust out a chest/bi superset scheme, haven't done in awhile..

Incline BB bench 3x12 ss/w
Standing straight bar curl 3x15

Flat DB bench 3x8-10 ss/w
Preacher EZ bar 3x12

Incline DB Flyes 3x12-15 ss/w
Incline DB curls 3x8-10

6 sets abs

Am playing tennis later this afternoon, first time since tearing my calf 2 1/2 weeks ago. Will be going at it lightly, but looking forward to it.

Speaking of the calf.. check out the swelling still going on. It's my right calf (um, left as you're looking at it, just for clarity sake there!). ROM is coming back, but it's still in the healing stage, no doubt. I've been told that the swelling could remain for the next few weeks as well.

Starting to note some body comp changes, tightening up, even as I busted out a 200g carb meal last night for my last meal.
 

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Still looking good man...keep at it...looks like someone needs to shave tho ;)
 
I will admit i haven't shaved in a couple days and i am looking real rough :eek:
 
I will admit i haven't shaved in a couple days and i am looking real rough :eek:

Let it grow bro - we'll shag out together! :p
(oh, gotta put the obligatory "no homo" remark in there.. :run:)
That whole "no homo" thing cracks me up..


Shoulda waited till today to post an update pic, looking more defined & tighter here this morning, looks like the supp stack/diet is coming together. Alas, my photographer (aka the wife) is gone this morning and took the cam with her.

Tennis went well last night, didn't push things much, just worked on my stroke mostly. Was nice to get out there again.

Worked calves directly for first time since injury this morning, keeping it light, reps slow & controlled. I'm about a week ahead of schedule, so I'm pretty happy with the progress!

BB Squats, close-stance 2 warms, 8/8/6/6 + drop set
Leg extension 1 giant drop set (5 drops w/ 20 seconds rest between each)
Leg curls 12/10/6/6/6 + drop set
Standing calf raises 5x20 (toes straight/in/out/in/straight)

More tennis on the way this afternoon. Might try to be a bit more mobile out there this time!
 
Let it grow bro - we'll shag out together! :p
(oh, gotta put the obligatory "no homo" remark in there.. :run:)
That whole "no homo" thing cracks me up..


Shoulda waited till today to post an update pic, looking more defined & tighter here this morning, looks like the supp stack/diet is coming together. Alas, my photographer (aka the wife) is gone this morning and took the cam with her.

Tennis went well last night, didn't push things much, just worked on my stroke mostly. Was nice to get out there again.

Worked calves directly for first time since injury this morning, keeping it light, reps slow & controlled. I'm about a week ahead of schedule, so I'm pretty happy with the progress!

BB Squats, close-stance 2 warms, 8/8/6/6 + drop set
Leg extension 1 giant drop set (5 drops w/ 20 seconds rest between each)
Leg curls 12/10/6/6/6 + drop set
Standing calf raises 5x20 (toes straight/in/out/in/straight)

More tennis on the way this afternoon. Might try to be a bit more mobile out there this time!


Ha ha!!! Shag out together. :icon_lol:
 
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