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gyno worsening while on phera

krogtaar

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hello everybody!

ive seen that phera can not aromatize/convert to estrogen, but i've been on 30mg 3 days on it and old gyno started acting up...puffyness and a tiny bit of lactation.

is it possible for phera or any known metablolites to activate the receptor that causes prolactin production? most everything i've read only shows gyno from an estro/prolactin rebound after pct from phera, not while on.

i have p-5-p, letro,torem and was going to do a superdrol bridge

options im considering
1. start super, stop phera. from what i gather super is very supressive to estro and consequently prolactin in additon to androgens. adding p5p will help stop any additional prolactin production. i dont recall seeing cases of super causing gyno while still on cycle, onlyy from post pct rebound

2.start letro...if phera is aromatizing not sure on the chemistry of if this is possible, this will end that. and my cycle wont be sol.

stop everything...start letro and/or torem. and p5p. ive seen that torem/tamox don't stop prolactin induced gyno growth, so im thinkin start with letro

thanks for help guys :)
 
why not start the p-5-p while on cycle at a high dose then taper off and 100% lower your dosage for the phera, 300 mg is alot to start off with, most work up to that mg later in the cycle as phera takes time to kick in anyways. Start p-5-p, and lower your dosage of phera, then kick it up week 3 or 4. it'll be worth it rather then starting with 30mgs. The puffiness is most likely prolactin, but yes, phera can aromatize/convert to estrogen tho, hence the wet gains that it gives you. Hope this helps.



MM
 
ALso, i hear/ see that just taking b6 should work, also if you want OTC, then look into PowerFULL and 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzol(3,4 diol). They supposedly do the job... good luck



MM
 
krogtaar said:
hello everybody!

ive seen that phera can not aromatize/convert to estrogen, but i've been on 30mg 3 days on it and old gyno started acting up...puffyness and a tiny bit of lactation.

is it possible for phera or any known metablolites to activate the receptor that causes prolactin production? most everything i've read only shows gyno from an estro/prolactin rebound after pct from phera, not while on.

i have p-5-p, letro,torem and was going to do a superdrol bridge

options im considering
1. start super, stop phera. from what i gather super is very supressive to estro and consequently prolactin in additon to androgens. adding p5p will help stop any additional prolactin production. i dont recall seeing cases of super causing gyno while still on cycle, onlyy from post pct rebound

2.start letro...if phera is aromatizing not sure on the chemistry of if this is possible, this will end that. and my cycle wont be sol.

stop everything...start letro and/or torem. and p5p. ive seen that torem/tamox don't stop prolactin induced gyno growth, so im thinkin start with letro

thanks for help guys :)
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krogtaar, I'm not trying to sound like a prick here but... you've had gyno before, and you're playing around with phera? Now you're lactating and thinking of jumping to superdrol. Man, I would DEFINITELY go with option #3. Start letro and p5p and make sure you taper off gradually. Consider running torem afterward (30-60mg for a couple of weeks) to keep from having a nasty estrogen rebound.

Good luck and PM me if you want suggestions on how to run the letro.
 
thanks guys, should have said i'm 230 and 30mg havoc was giving slow gains, so i figured id start at 30mg phera. the gyno ive always had...no lumps but more puffy than normal.

if p5p(same efect as B6, its what the body converts B6 into) and letro can stop this while on cycle i'd much rather do that and not have to worry about a long tapered PCT and trying the cycle again after a few months. PCT I planned was letro taper to torem
 
True, ya my buddy hit up his phera up to 30mg after like 5 days and boom, nips started getting puffy, it's almost inevitable if your the even slightest bit prone to it with phera plex. Good luck


MM
 
I would go ahead and stop everything and start with PCT. I wouldn't recommend using any PH's that have the possibility of aggravating gyno especially if you have a pre-existing case.
 
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