Over Training?

Redeye

Redeye

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sup everybody, right now i am curre ntly going to be cutting, i was seeing when do u know if you are over training? i do bout 30 to 45 min cardio in morning and or incorpate abs into that every day. then in evening i will go and do my actuall lifting! I was bout to start doing pull ups and pushups every day with abs. then workout in evening. is that to much for the body and just be burning more then i am taking in? or mmight injure myselff?

my cardio involves right now, jump rope, speed bag, and punching bag, maybe throw in tread mill elliptical and or row. no high end cardio right now like springitn due to patella tendinitis because of squats.. was doing bout 3 times a week and i just over worked the knee, now taking meds for inflamtion and glucocamine for the joints to help been bout 4 weeks now since my my legs and or heavy running. time to start slowly moving the right way.

Any help would be very grateful on if i am over doing it or what i coudl do to tweak it out or hell if i am doing it right? sorry for the book? hey might be worth something..=P
 
are you tryin to retain as much mass as possible while cutting? i would think that doing pushups and pullups everyday as well as lifting with your arms would be overtraining. thats just my opinion tho
 
It's hard to say because everyone is different. I can easily train for about 20 hours a week, collectively, and not overtrain. It just depends how well your CNS adapts to everything. One thing to really emphasize is to get really good, restful sleep.
 
o ok.. thanx that helps, yea it feels like i can keep up with it.. but i also didnt want to do those and then i'll be burning off some of my muscle, u know just waisted time. also for a strong core, should u do bout 200 sit ups a day? or super set situps for a really good core, i've been wanting to push my core to the limits and tying to figure what would be good.. been doing planks bout 30 sec of 3 sets and then decline and leg raises.. but should i focus on one and do alot fo it.. or multiple and just do em in mass reps? my sleeping consist of going to bed round 11 to 11:30 at night and waking up at 6:30.. trying to make it 10 and waking up round 5:30 6 hasnt happen yet!

I do wanna keeep some of my mass with me. cuas ei am coming from a bulking state. well somewhat cause i lost a few pounds of it.. when i decreased from 205 to 190.. lil sad but , just keep on trucking, but my main goal as of right now is to get my fat off and or fat cells storage to decrese!
 
pizzathehut said:
o ok.. thanx that helps, yea it feels like i can keep up with it.. but i also didnt want to do those and then i'll be burning off some of my muscle, u know just waisted time. also for a strong core, should u do bout 200 sit ups a day? or super set situps for a really good core, i've been wanting to push my core to the limits and tying to figure what would be good.. been doing planks bout 30 sec of 3 sets and then decline and leg raises.. but should i focus on one and do alot fo it.. or multiple and just do em in mass reps? my sleeping consist of going to bed round 11 to 11:30 at night and waking up at 6:30.. trying to make it 10 and waking up round 5:30 6 hasnt happen yet!

I do wanna keeep some of my mass with me. cuas ei am coming from a bulking state. well somewhat cause i lost a few pounds of it.. when i decreased from 205 to 190.. lil sad but , just keep on trucking, but my main goal as of right now is to get my fat off and or fat cells storage to decrese!
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A strong core is not built from one exercise. Like every other muscle, it is best to hit it with varying stimuli. I personally like to do 1 day of weighted exercises (woodchoppers, halos, weighted cable crunches, trunk rotations, etc) and another of body weight (planks, hanging leg raises, planks, etc).
 
k, now i got the weekend to practice em, and get rdy fro monday start of my real training and and cardio. I spent all week preping my diet and waking up early to hit the gym for cardio, nights i just dont have enrgy for cardio after workout. but i'll do just that. one day planks next day weighted and follow day just situps with other regualr type of abs.. and keep it switched up.. and let it get strong!
 
It depends on what you are trying to do. If gaining muscle or retainig muscle is your number one goal you are probably doing too much. I will also say this, as you get bigger and stronger, especially if you are natural, you need more recovery and need to watch your volume to maximize gains. The only guys i see making gains on the once a week bodypart thrashing routine are on tons of chemicals.
 
Rodja said:
A strong core is not built from one exercise. Like every other muscle, it is best to hit it with varying stimuli. I personally like to do 1 day of weighted exercises (woodchoppers, halos, weighted cable crunches, trunk rotations, etc) and another of body weight (planks, hanging leg raises, planks, etc).
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How big are you, and are you a fighter. Just because you train 20 hours a week without overtraining doesn't meen you are making progress.
 
jcp2 said:
How big are you, and are you a fighter. Just because you train 20 hours a week without overtraining doesn't meen you are making progress.
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Read my sig...

I don't lift for muscular hypertrophy and I have been making consistent strength gains for well over a year. Even during my prep, I will continue to hit P.R.'s.
 
Rodja said:
Read my sig...

I don't lift for muscular hypertrophy and I have been making consistent strength gains for well over a year. Even during my prep, I will continue to hit P.R.'s.
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That is why i was asking. Kind of hard to pick up on the MMA part of your sig with the other things in it. Comparing what you do to somone who is, i assume, training to gain as much muscle as possible is a little different and a little misleading because you are well trained athlete making progress towarsds a different goal.
 
jcp2 said:
That is why i was asking. Kind of hard to pick up on the MMA part of your sig with the other things in it. Comparing what you do to somone who is, i assume, training to gain as much muscle as possible is a little different and a little misleading because you are well trained athlete making progress towarsds a different goal.
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Not necessarily; I am just as concerned about my body composition and LBM as anyone and I still try to add muscle almost year-round, but I obviously do it at a much slower clip than most. I was merely pointing out that overtraining is something that is mentioned far too frequently. It is not so much about the training in and of itself, it is the rest of the day that should be adjusted to compensate for an increase in load and/or volume.
 
Rodja said:
Not necessarily; I am just as concerned about my body composition and LBM as anyone and I still try to add muscle almost year-round, but I obviously do it at a much slower clip than most. I was merely pointing out that overtraining is something that is mentioned far too frequently. It is not so much about the training in and of itself, it is the rest of the day that should be adjusted to compensate for an increase in load and/or volume.
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Pure overtraining is definately mentioned far too frequently, but what most people mean by it is you are performing too much work to maximize hypertrophy. Not pure overtrainig from a CNS standpoint, which as you mentioned is something you adapt to over time.
 
now as far as, lifitng and cutting.. doing a single body part, like a 4 day split doing eahc part like chest/monday back/tuesday rest wednesday thurday/ shoulders friday/bi's and tris legs will be comign back into rotation, right now have a knee problem that wont pursist me to do heavy lfiing for one more week.

i was thinking of siwtching to this on cutting. see if it will work
monday doing chest, bi;s and tris and tuesday do back shoulders legs. rest wednesday and then thursday and friday repeat the cycle but different excercies.

what u think would be a better way?
 
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