My Sick Summer Cut (Sponsored in part by Band-Aid)

TimberLakers said:
Man... ThundaGod... I hope the Nolva in my PCT blows my balls up like two balloons.
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Nolva is reportedly the lowest on the poll when it comes to htpa restoration. (never did sht for my nutses). Clomid on the other hand is the BEST for this (out of the serms) of course. Fenugreek works fcuking wonders though at 6gm ed dosed 5 on 2 off. Never used DTHC but might give it a shot this time.

And Timber if your nutses start looking like giant Burgers GO TO THE DOC!!! lol......
 
BlackSheep said:
Nolva is reportedly the lowest on the poll when it comes to htpa restoration. (never did sht for my nutses). Clomid on the other hand is the BEST for this (out of the serms) of course. Fenugreek works fcuking wonders though at 6gm ed dosed 5 on 2 off. Never used DTHC but might give it a shot this time.

And Timber if your nutses start looking like giant Burgers GO TO THE DOC!!! lol......
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If by DOC you mean THE STRIP CLUB.

:box::chick:
 
BlackSheep said:
Well yea, what else would I have been saying lol.....Playin with those bitxhes is how you get nutses like that lol.:study:
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You speak the truth. I must say... for a 26 year old "man" I sure have a lot of immature aspects I am doing absolutely NOTHING to deal with.
 
TimberLakers said:
You speak the truth. I must say... for a 26 year old "man" I sure have a lot of immature aspects I am doing absolutely NOTHING to deal with.
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I know what you mean! Next week I'll be a 44 year old "boy" who embraces immaturity with a smile everyday!! :D THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
I know what you mean! Next week I'll be a 44 year old "boy" who embraces immaturity with a smile everyday!! :D THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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I agree wholeheartedly! I'm 30 and it is my firm belief that as a man, you are never too old to act like a kid, albeit a much larger, and much hairier one. It's just another reason I'm thankful to have been born with these:
:burg::burg:
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Nice intake! What's your weight?

I start on Monday. I'm just sittin' here, looking at my stash, feeling like a fat kid across the table from a peice of cake. I'm trying not to spoil my dinner, but damn it's tough!!!
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Thanks, Im about 215lbs right now. I know exactly what you mean. Every once in a while ill just go in my closet and look at my stash and smile lol. Its a beautiful thing
 
jamze7417 said:
Thanks, Im about 215lbs right now. I know exactly what you mean. Every once in a while ill just go in my closet and look at my stash and smile lol. Its a beautiful thing
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Seriously! I got home yesterday to go to the gym, and I was just eyeballing my bottle of MMV2, thinking, "aw, what's the harm if I begin the MMV2 a week early??" Of course, in the end, I talked some sense to myself. It'll be all the sweeter when I get cranking next week.
 
jamze7417 said:
Thanks, Im about 215lbs right now. I know exactly what you mean. Every once in a while ill just go in my closet and look at my stash and smile lol. Its a beautiful thing
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I have mine in 2 dresser drawers! One won't hold 'em all!! It's beautiful. I start drooling like Homer Simpson when I look at it all!!! MMMMM!!!!!:food:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
ThisGuy2 said:
I agree wholeheartedly! I'm 30 and it is my firm belief that as a man, you are never too old to act like a kid, albeit a much larger, and much hairier one. It's just another reason I'm thankful to have been born with these:
:burg::burg:
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Thank God for a log that we can be ourselves and joke around. There isn't enough appreciation for immature potty humor on this board... I for one am turning 25 next week, and I plan to act like I am turning 16. I am gonna party with the intention of offending at least one person that comes to my party. lol. If someone doesn't walk away disgusted or pissed off, I haven't done my birthday job of declaring my immature supremacy. :D
 
thundergod said:
I have mine in 2 dresser drawers! One won't hold 'em all!! It's beautiful. I start drooling like Homer Simpson when I look at it all!!! MMMMM!!!!!:food:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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I know what you mean, TG! I have two drawers myself, and often get Homer syndrom.
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GMG760 said:
Thank God for a log that we can be ourselves and joke around. There isn't enough appreciation for immature potty humor on this board... I for one am turning 25 next week, and I plan to act like I am turning 16. I am gonna party with the intention of offending at least one person that comes to my party. lol. If someone doesn't walk away disgusted or pissed off, I haven't done my birthday job of declaring my immature supremacy. :D
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I agree. It's like the old saying goes, "if you can't laugh at yourself, laugh at somebody else"...wait...that's not it. :think:
 
My epi log... join the madness!

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thundergod said:
I know what you mean! Next week I'll be a 44 year old "boy" who embraces immaturity with a smile everyday!! :D THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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congrats in advance. why you quit posting so much?:dl:
 
ThisGuy2 said:
I agree. It's like the old saying goes, "if you can't laugh at yourself, laugh at somebody else"...wait...that's not it. :think:
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cycle looks good, its your pct go with what you feel comfortable with. imo pct might be overkill but nothing thats going to hurt you. btw i like the dth in pct, used it before good stuff.:squat:
 
thebigt said:
cycle looks good, its your pct go with what you feel comfortable with. imo pct might be overkill but nothing thats going to hurt you. btw i like the dth in pct, used it before good stuff.:squat:
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Thanks man! I've actually decided to 86 the clomid, though I'm still not sold on dropping the nolva. My general rule on any cycle is to listen to my body...carefully! As a result, I've cut cycles short, extended them, increased dosages, lowered them, added compounds to a stack, removed them, you name it. So I'm definitely not averse to changing on the fly...so long as I have everything I need beforehand (or readily attainable, if not):thumbsup:. Preparation, after all, is the key.

As the cycle runs its course, I'll determine if I need the nolva afterward, or if I can just go with the 3 - 5 day clomid approach and then into the 6oxo.

And I'm with you. I always thought DTH was all hype, but it brought me back from my last shutdown, it made a believer out of me.
 
thebigt said:
congrats in advance. why you quit posting so much?:dl:
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Thanks. It seems like I'm posting a lot, at least to me! I've got the new cycle log keeping me busy also. Have you subbed yet my brother? It's called, "Thundergod's Sikk Son Of Odin Strength Cycle". Getting ready to "hammer" Chest and Tri's here within the hour. Time to put on the "bear shirt" and experience that Beserker rage!! :aargh: I'll post the workout afterwards!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Thanks. It seems like I'm posting a lot, at least to me! I've got the new cycle log keeping me busy also. Have you subbed yet my brother? It's called, "Thundergod's Sikk Son Of Odin Strength Cycle". Getting ready to "hammer" Chest and Tri's here within the hour. Time to put on the "bear shirt" and experience that Beserker rage!! :aargh: I'll post the workout afterwards!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Yeah, you've been pretty busy, what with the old log and now the new log, which has already come along nicely.

Go get those chest and tri's!!!
 
Maybe I'm just getting last-minute cold feet (not about the cycle...that I'm not taking enough!), but I'm a little concerned. Sure, this stack should really shred me up. But do I want to go with nary a drop of muscle gain? I don't know.

What about 3 weeks of low-dose SD in there? You know, just 10mg weeks 2-4 for a wee bit o' muscle mass.

:ntome:who said that??
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Maybe I'm just getting last-minute cold feet (not about the cycle...that I'm not taking enough!), but I'm a little concerned. Sure, this stack should really shred me up. But do I want to go with nary a drop of muscle gain? I don't know.

What about 3 weeks of low-dose SD in there? You know, just 10mg weeks 2-4 for a wee bit o' muscle mass.

:ntome:who said that??
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:twisted: or 20 days hemadrol (10 days @ 50mg, 10 days @ 100mg)??
 
ThisGuy2 said:
:twisted: or 20 days hemadrol (10 days @ 50mg, 10 days @ 100mg)??
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Somebody shut that guy up!

But seriously...any thoughts on adding a dry mass compound into this mix? Something that can run for only 3 weeks, tail end? Or am I going overboard? The high dose furaz and MMV2 should put a couple of pounds on me, after all.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Somebody shut that guy up!

But seriously...any thoughts on adding a dry mass compound into this mix? Something that can run for only 3 weeks, tail end? Or am I going overboard? The high dose furaz and MMV2 should put a couple of pounds on me, after all.
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Yo, your multiple personalities just made me spit my soda all over the monitor...
 
TimberLakers said:
Yo, your multiple personalities just made me spit my soda all over the monitor...
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Glad you liked that!

The guy with the horns just whispered something about 3 weeks of epi at 20mg looking like a good option too.

I think I'm going to ignore him, before he gets me into any more trouble.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Somebody shut that guy up!

But seriously...any thoughts on adding a dry mass compound into this mix? Something that can run for only 3 weeks, tail end? Or am I going overboard? The high dose furaz and MMV2 should put a couple of pounds on me, after all.
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...You have plenty of PCT lined up... I've been eyeing my M-drol and P-plex lately... already thinking of my cycle after my epistane. LOL! Get sick with it bro! You know what I would do...:study::thumbsup:
 
GMG760 said:
...You have plenty of PCT lined up... I've been eyeing my M-drol and P-plex lately... already thinking of my cycle after my epistane. LOL! Get sick with it bro! You know what I would do...:study::thumbsup:
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My big holdup w/ SD is that it kills libido in like 50% of people. Which is where I'd lean towards P-plex, were it not such a wet compound. I've read that 10-20mg p-plex wouldn't be too wet if your diet was locked in, and I think with the 11oxo, maybe even moreso. There's always 3ad, which is just unmethylated p-plex. But that's like $60...:nutkick:
 
Fcuk 3ad IMO. Not worth the $$ for the minimal if any gains you'll get.
Hey TG2 whens D-Day for this cycle? This Monday right?
 
BlackSheep said:
Fcuk 3ad IMO. Not worth the $$ for the minimal if any gains you'll get.
Hey TG2 whens D-Day for this cycle? This Monday right?
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Yesir! Talk about being psyched! I can't WAIT!!! Good thing I'm getting out of the house for the weekend...otherwise I might've found a few crunchy new condiments for my 4th of July burgers!

You know, I think I'm just going to chill the fcuk out and stick with the 19 bottles I already have in supply. I'm 5'11" 201lb and not too much fat (really hoping those calipers arrive in time for d-day, though I guess if I have to wait for Tuesday or Wednesdays to get that stat in, it won't matter much), so I've got a good base. I'm just going to focus on cutting fat, hardening muscle and really going after that sharp and vascular look.

Of course, I've got a bulk coming on in the fall/winter, so don't be surprised if in the next couple of weeks I acquire a bottle of pplex to squirrel away for that very occasion. :thumbsup:
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Yesir! Talk about being psyched! I can't WAIT!!! Good thing I'm getting out of the house for the weekend...otherwise I might've found a few crunchy new condiments for my 4th of July burgers!

You know, I think I'm just going to chill the fcuk out and stick with the 19 bottles I already have in supply. I'm 5'11" 201lb and not too much fat (really hoping those calipers arrive in time for d-day, though I guess if I have to wait for Tuesday or Wednesdays to get that stat in, it won't matter much), so I've got a good base. I'm just going to focus on cutting fat, hardening muscle and really going after that sharp and vascular look.

Of course, I've got a bulk coming on in the fall/winter, so don't be surprised if in the next couple of weeks I acquire a bottle of pplex to squirrel away for that very occasion. :thumbsup:
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I've got two of em... hehehe.

x2 on the screw 3AD. 3AD converts to Stanalone. Your MMV2 converts to stanalone... kinda like beating a dead horse at that point with non methyls.

This stack is sick enough to begin with. Plus it will be way less harsh on you than if you use a methyl... go with the Pplex this fall... I'll run it with you!!! :twisted:
 
GMG760 said:
I've got two of em... hehehe.

x2 on the screw 3AD. 3AD converts to Stanalone. Your MMV2 converts to stanalone... kinda like beating a dead horse at that point with non methyls.

This stack is sick enough to begin with. Plus it will be way less harsh on you than if you use a methyl... go with the Pplex this fall... I'll run it with you!!! :twisted:
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Yeah, I hear you. I've always had great experiences with all the AX products, but $60 is a hell of an expensive flier to take!

about this pplex cycle in the winter...I'm down! Let's do it!!! How do you feel about a loaded up 3 weeker, Thundergod style? I'd probably stack it with 300mg winztrol or at least 225mg 11oxo to keep the bloat down....and I don't know, maybe 20mg epi....oh yeah, and more MMV2, you know, just since I'm going to have leftovers! We can discuss more later.

Though I was also considering a dbol/tbol/winny cycle, but that could be my late-winter cycle. I could actually line them up for bursts the way you're doing it now, couldn't I TG?
 
TimberLakers said:
PPlex is still available?
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Yea it is, most of the banned stuff stays for sale so long as it was produced prior to the ban. Once it sells out that's it. NP doesn't carry banned stuff, but you can still find that shizzle.

I have a bottle of CEL P-Plex, and one of Black China Labs straight phlexed. :twisted:

As for this fall, LETS DO IT!!! I was planning on a solo run... but maybe some 11OXO wouldn't be bad... Man, some MMV2 and Phera... whoowee I would be one aggro mofo in the gym. Probably would end up going to jail for tearing someones face off for looking at me funny.

Some of the God of Thunder's stacks scare the bejesus out of me and my liver.

If I do something more hardcore it's gonna be a Test cycle. I am getting over this whole fear of pinning pretty quickly.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Yeah, I hear you. I've always had great experiences with all the AX products, but $60 is a hell of an expensive flier to take!

about this pplex cycle in the winter...I'm down! Let's do it!!! How do you feel about a loaded up 3 weeker, Thundergod style? I'd probably stack it with 300mg winztrol or at least 225mg 11oxo to keep the bloat down....and I don't know, maybe 20mg epi....oh yeah, and more MMV2, you know, just since I'm going to have leftovers! We can discuss more later.

Though I was also considering a dbol/tbol/winny cycle, but that could be my late-winter cycle. I could actually line them up for bursts the way you're doing it now, couldn't I TG?
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Let me in on this!
 
ThisGuy2 said:
Yeah, I hear you. I've always had great experiences with all the AX products, but $60 is a hell of an expensive flier to take!

about this pplex cycle in the winter...I'm down! Let's do it!!! How do you feel about a loaded up 3 weeker, Thundergod style? I'd probably stack it with 300mg winztrol or at least 225mg 11oxo to keep the bloat down....and I don't know, maybe 20mg epi....oh yeah, and more MMV2, you know, just since I'm going to have leftovers! We can discuss more later.

Though I was also considering a dbol/tbol/winny cycle, but that could be my late-winter cycle. I could actually line them up for bursts the way you're doing it now, couldn't I TG?
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Even though I feel safe and comfortable dosing things the way I do, I can't whole-heartedly recommend it for others. I am only on the second cycle of my Burst-Cycling experimentation. So there's more data left to aquire before I can give an honest assessment of my studies! Before I could suggest dosing things like I do, there's lots of things to take into consideration. My 20+ years of natural lifting experience before experimenting with these Designers, my age, my size, the fact that I NEVER consume alcohol, the high dose liver-protectants that I take between cycles, etc..... But I really do like the sound of that Winztrol @300 mg., Epi and Phera @ 20 mg. each!! For a short 3 weeker, I think you would be safe. And your strength would fukkin' take off!! And now on to the dbol/tbol/winny combo, that sounds extremely interesting for a few short burst cycles. Maybe 3 of them back to back! Anytime you feel like it, PM me and we can work out some dosing schemes!! :study::type: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
TimberLakers said:
Let me in on this!
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LOL. "I think I am only gonna be doing one cycle. Ever."
- Timberlakers like 4 days ago.

Now you want to run some P-Plex? That's my dawg! :twisted:

I thought you wanted to stay a pretty boy?
Hehehehe.
 
thundergod said:
Even though I feel safe and comfortable dosing things the way I do, I can't whole-heartedly recommend it for others. I am only on the second cycle of my Burst-Cycling experimentation. So there's more data left to aquire before I can give an honest assessment of my studies! Before I could suggest dosing things like I do, there's lots of things to take into consideration. My 20+ years of natural lifting experience before experimenting with these Designers, my age, my size, the fact that I NEVER consume alcohol, the high dose liver-protectants that I take between cycles, etc..... But I really do like the sound of that Winztrol @300 mg., Epi and Phera @ 20 mg. each!! For a short 3 weeker, I think you would be safe. And your strength would fukkin' take off!! And now on to the dbol/tbol/winny combo, that sounds extremely interesting for a few short burst cycles. Maybe 3 of them back to back! Anytime you feel like it, PM me and we can work out some dosing schemes!! :study::type: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Dbol, turnibol (isn't that what halodrol converts to?), and Winstrol... whoowee. :bb3:



I think I want to run a test only cycle before I dive headfirst into that beeyatch.

But the P-Plex... 2 months after my Epi cycle... lets get sick with it!!! Maybe some MMV2 ontop of it too! We are gonna RAAAAAGE!!! :head:

And yes TG, I know you are much more experienced than any of us chatting it up right now, I only look to your stacks for knowledge and a good log to go along for the ride! Slow and steady for this guy... I'm gonna be trying stuff one at a time until I get used to the compounds.
 
GMG760 said:
Dbol, turnibol (isn't that what halodrol converts to?), and Winstrol... whoowee. :bb3:



I think I want to run a test only cycle before I dive headfirst into that beeyatch.

But the P-Plex... 2 months after my Epi cycle... lets get sick with it!!! Maybe some MMV2 ontop of it too! We are gonna RAAAAAGE!!! :head:

And yes TG, I know you are much more experienced than any of us chatting it up right now, I only look to your stacks for knowledge and a good log to go along for the ride! Slow and steady for this guy... I'm gonna be trying stuff one at a time until I get used to the compounds.
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Thanks for considering my logs entertaining!:box: I do my very best to keep everyone interested! I also started my designers experience using just 1 compound at a time to evaluate their effectiveness and Modus Operandi. I tried Halo-Drol for a cherry popper. Then I tried Phera. Loved it for strength! Then I moved up to a Super-Drol run. Still the strongest sh*t I've put into my body. I'm a Super-Junkie!! :twisted: Now, I'm experimenting with my own original stacks!! I keep a journal recording their effectiveness. There's a few very much worth repeating!! Thank all you guys for letting me intrude into your group. You guys are a fukkin' riot!!:lol: Nothin' but love for you my new friends!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Even though I feel safe and comfortable dosing things the way I do, I can't whole-heartedly recommend it for others. I am only on the second cycle of my Burst-Cycling experimentation. So there's more data left to aquire before I can give an honest assessment of my studies! Before I could suggest dosing things like I do, there's lots of things to take into consideration. My 20+ years of natural lifting experience before experimenting with these Designers, my age, my size, the fact that I NEVER consume alcohol, the high dose liver-protectants that I take between cycles, etc..... But I really do like the sound of that Winztrol @300 mg., Epi and Phera @ 20 mg. each!! For a short 3 weeker, I think you would be safe. And your strength would fukkin' take off!! And now on to the dbol/tbol/winny combo, that sounds extremely interesting for a few short burst cycles. Maybe 3 of them back to back! Anytime you feel like it, PM me and we can work out some dosing schemes!! :study::type: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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You know I will, brother! Both of those combos sound VERY interesting to me!!
 
GMG760 said:
Dbol, turnibol (isn't that what halodrol converts to?), and Winstrol... whoowee. :bb3:



I think I want to run a test only cycle before I dive headfirst into that beeyatch.

But the P-Plex... 2 months after my Epi cycle... lets get sick with it!!! Maybe some MMV2 ontop of it too! We are gonna RAAAAAGE!!! :head:

And yes TG, I know you are much more experienced than any of us chatting it up right now, I only look to your stacks for knowledge and a good log to go along for the ride! Slow and steady for this guy... I'm gonna be trying stuff one at a time until I get used to the compounds.
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You are correct, sir! halo converts to tbol (at 16%, if I'm not mistaken).

Don't get me wrong though, this is not intended to be a pinning cycle. I'm talking oral (even the winny). Not that I have a fear of needles...just an aversion to the divorce that would likely ensue should my wife find syringes. Bottles of pills are no biggie. She's known I'm into supps since we first met. I keep spare emtpy bottles aroudn for just that purpose (clomid goes here, nolva goes there, and so on).
 
Well gents, I had a nice long weekend, laying low, taking it slow, and catchin' some rays. Now, let's kick some ass:frustrate:aargh::twisted::head:, take some names, and see if I can't get a bit more cut up.

I woke up this morning and I got myself a beer...no, that's not true. That's just a song I heard over the weekend.

I woke up this morning and I got myself:
Furazadrol 100mg
11oxo 150mg
11test 100mg

And my PM dosing will be:
1pm
Venom HD

4pm
Furazadrol 150mg
11oxo 150mg
11test 100mg

I will continue dosing this way throughout week 1. Week 2 and 3 the only change will be dropping the PM fruaz dose to 100 (totaling 200mg daily), and then once more the final week (to total 150mg daily). Other than that, MMV2 will be taken 1 hour pre-workout on lifting days only. The plan is to dose 3 this week, 4 next, 5 the 3rd week and 6 the 4th, though I'll be playing it by ear.

Alright! Now training; I did 30 minutes HIIT this morning (which was rough after the long and relaxing weekend), but I fought through it. Tomorrow will be 1 hour low intensity, Wendesday HIIT, Thursday low, Friday HIIT). I wish I could lift today, but I can't. Oh well, chest & back tomorrow, shoulders Wednesday, arms Thursday and legs Friday. The week after I intend to split training days to Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat.

Here are my starting stats and measurments:
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 201lb
BF% (yes, I finally got it): 16.1%
Neck: 16.5"
Chest: 45.75"
Shoulders: 51.5"
Biceps (unflexed): 14.25"
Biceps (flexed): 16.5"
Forearm: 12.5"
Waist: 37"
Hip: 38.5"
Thigh: 22.25"
Calf: 15"

And I still have the pic from my last day on AP/RC (last week), which we'll be able to use to compare at the end of this thing.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
You are correct, sir! halo converts to tbol (at 16%, if I'm not mistaken).

Don't get me wrong though, this is not intended to be a pinning cycle. I'm talking oral (even the winny). Not that I have a fear of needles...just an aversion to the divorce that would likely ensue should my wife find syringes. Bottles of pills are no biggie. She's known I'm into supps since we first met. I keep spare emtpy bottles aroudn for just that purpose (clomid goes here, nolva goes there, and so on).
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Yea, if I ever do a inject cycle I think I am gonna have to be single while I do it. I have no problem telling people what I am taking, but yea, the needle thing is just associated with IV drug use.
 
subbed!! a little late but just in time for the fun part! good luck man.
 
I'm subbed!

I'm cutting right now too (41 days in)...I don't know how you are swingin' that low carb intake man! I've been staying between 100-150 a day and its been rough! Hard to stay focused some days. I'm interested to see how you handle 50!
 
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