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T3 Worth The Risk?

Is T3, if used conservatively, worth the Dangers?

  • Yes

    Votes: 222 71.8%

  • No

    Votes: 87 28.2%
  • Total voters
    309
ThisGuy02 said:
Yep. I'm actually on my last week at 50mcg and let me tell you, I'm dying to finish. The lethargy has been INSANE. I have to drag my ass to the gym every day, whereas I usually can't wait to get there.
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Should have taken it with clen, would have negated that issue hehe. jk.

I don't think I'll be doing clen + t3 for a while again..I did lose some muscle while leaning out even at around 50mcg of t3 and 100mcg of clen. I had some weird side effects though beyond the normal cramping, etc, and my latest bloodwork shows signs of adrenal fatigue, so no more stims for a while (after I finish my leviathan). Good news is, within the past few weeks I've started upping the cal's again and the training intensity + I've gained most of that muscle back while looking more cut, which was the plan.
 
ThisGuy02 said:
Yep. I'm actually on my last week at 50mcg and let me tell you, I'm dying to finish. The lethargy has been INSANE. I have to drag my ass to the gym every day, whereas I usually can't wait to get there.
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I hear you bro! I gutted it out w/ doses as high as 100mcg and I was draaaaaaaaging my ass off. Backed it down to 75mcg and still was tired. Nice cycle as far as fat loss but I don't ever want to be that lethargic again.

For me Clen wouldn't be an option...the risk to the heart is too great IMO.

When you come off T3 and the lethargy goes away it feels so goood! Hang in there Guy you're almost done.
 
datBtrue said:
I hear you bro! I gutted it out w/ doses as high as 100mcg and I was draaaaaaaaging my ass off. Backed it down to 75mcg and still was tired. Nice cycle as far as fat loss but I don't ever want to be that lethargic again.

For me Clen wouldn't be an option...the risk to the heart is too great IMO.

When you come off T3 and the lethargy goes away it feels so goood! Hang in there Guy you're almost done.
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Thanks man. I'm looking forward to it. Actually, I'm doing the taper thing, so starting Friday I'll be at 37.5 for 3 days, then 25, then 12.5, so at least I'm looking forward to feeling less tired. Also, I've noticed I'm sleeping soooo much more. I'm normally up by like 7:30 and lately I'm snoozing through 8:30am and still dragging ass to get up.

Ditto for me with clen. The tight feeling you get on t3 has been weird enough. I don't think I could handle the palpitations that adding clen would bring.
 
never just drop off of a thyroid cycle. you absolutely need to ramp down. i have never read, anywhere, that ramping down is not necessary. in fact i have read some pretty crazy things about people who have stopped cold turkey.
 
acshadow said:
never just drop off of a thyroid cycle. you absolutely need to ramp down. i have never read, anywhere, that ramping down is not necessary. in fact i have read some pretty crazy things about people who have stopped cold turkey.
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You are better off asking those in the medical profession that have some experience in this area.

If you have some time when you get a chance I'd enjoy reading your specific reasons for stating "you absolutely need to ramp down".
 
love t3. For the first time I feel the heat from my palm and im only using 25 mcg or 50 mcg. I suggest not go far from those dosage cause a little help should make something difference.
 
T3 Cytomel and T4 Synthroid are oftenly praised as one of the best fat-loss drugs. Thyroid hormones (T3/T4) are often referred to as the metabolic regulators of the body. High levels of T3 speed up the metabolism of an individual, allowing him to burn more calories and use calories more sufficiently. T4 will be broken inside the body into T3, but the halflife is longer, so with the combination of T3 and T4 in one product, the efficiency is way up now.

T3/T4 causes a faster conversion of carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. It also increases lipolysis, which means increased fat burning. the main advantage over other products is that T3/T4 maintains an extremely low fat content, without necessitating a hunger diet, since the metabolism works on 200%. You cannot buy T3/T4 over the counter and its very hard to get it, even with a prescription.

You cant run T3/T4 for more than 2-3 weeks @ 3 or 4 caps or your body will adapt, and the effect is greatly diminished.
 
I'll have to disagree with at least two things you've said.
1) I don't believe either T3 or T4 makes your metabolism run at 200%
2) I've run, and know others who have run T3 much longer than 2-3 weeks with continuous results.
Could you please explain those two points in more detail?
 
pcn said:
I'll have to disagree with at least two things you've said.
1) I don't believe either T3 or T4 makes your metabolism run at 200%
2) I've run, and know others who have run T3 much longer than 2-3 weeks with continuous results.
Could you please explain those two points in more detail?
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sorry i was talking about using the two together, or stacking it with clen
 
Adrenolin said:
sorry i was talking about using the two together, or stacking it with clen
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Stick by your guns. You were correct. T3 is a dose dependent hormone. The more you take in, the higher your ,etabolism. So 200% is achievable. But the timing comment was incorrect. The thyroid is very resilient. I have done 8 week cycles with no problem on the rebound.

Adams
 
Are you guys experiencing any loss of strength or size on T3? Or do you stick by the rule that you must be on anabolics to run it?

Does anyone run it while not on anabolics and not lose muscle?


WHat doses are you running it at either way?
 
CryingEmo said:
Are you guys experiencing any loss of strength or size on T3? Or do you stick by the rule that you must be on anabolics to run it?

Does anyone run it while not on anabolics and not lose muscle?


WHat doses are you running it at either way?
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Personally for actual weight loss I would use an anabolic. T3 is not discriminate on what it burns for fuel. I like t4 myself, due to less sides, even though t3 is the active parent hormone (Or would you say child hormone?) Either way, with the anabolic I did not lose strength, but did not gain strength with a quickness either.

You can actually run a low dose of T3, and it be anabolic, due to increased protien turn over. But that dosage window is small, and not something I care to tinker with.

Bottom line, use your anabolic if you use a thyroid hormone. If anything, just to be on the safe side.

oh, and I have gone up to 250 mics of T4.

Adams
 
WHat if you were planning a pulse cycle while on HGH, and IGF-1.. .would that be strong enough to counteract 25 mcgs or more? HGH does slow thyroid in some supposedly...
 
CryingEmo said:
WHat if you were planning a pulse cycle while on HGH, and IGF-1.. .would that be strong enough to counteract 25 mcgs or more? HGH does slow thyroid in some supposedly...
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25 mics is a pretty low dose, and I think you would be fine on that. That is said to be the window dose.. but really it is all personal dependent.

Adams
 
DAdams91982 said:
25 mics is a pretty low dose, and I think you would be fine on that. That is said to be the window dose.. but really it is all personal dependent.

Adams
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I have some old (about 2 yrs old) of IBE's T3. I was thinking maybe of running it alongside with H-drol. What do you guys think...

H-drol
T3

Or should i just stick with a straight run of H-drol, which is what i was planning on doing


thanks
 
msucurt said:
I have some old (about 2 yrs old) of IBE's T3. I was thinking maybe of running it alongside with H-drol. What do you guys think...

H-drol
T3

Or should i just stick with a straight run of H-drol, which is what i was planning on doing


thanks
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This is what I'm planning to do, along with some HGH/IGF-1... maybe stack h-drol with furzadrol...
 
msucurt said:
I have some old (about 2 yrs old) of IBE's T3. I was thinking maybe of running it alongside with H-drol. What do you guys think...

H-drol
T3

Or should i just stick with a straight run of H-drol, which is what i was planning on doing


thanks
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anyone else? I am on day 10 on m straight hdrol run. Was thinking about using some of this IBE T-3 that i have laying around. I would hate for this stuff to not go to use. Someone help me build a stack with this t-3 and hdrol that i am on.

thanks
 
msucurt said:
anyone else? I am on day 10 on m straight hdrol run. Was thinking about using some of this IBE T-3 that i have laying around. I would hate for this stuff to not go to use. Someone help me build a stack with this t-3 and hdrol that i am on.

thanks
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I'm doing the same thing. Currently cutting on 100mg h drol ED, and 25 mcg T3 ED. I may go to 20 mcg 2x a day of T3, don't want to go above 50.


You can meassure liquid T3 acurately with a slin needle. If the concentration is 200 mcg per ML, then 1 tic mark on a slin needle = 4 mcg.


Start at 12 mcg, and up the dose every 3-4 days.
 
Question:

How strong of an anabolic do you need to counter-act the possible catabolism of T3? Will Havoc, M-Drol, Epistane, etc. work or do you need an AAS?

The only anabolic I am currently sitting on is some M4OHN & MDIEN.
 
KingMeso said:
Question:

How strong of an anabolic do you need to counter-act the possible catabolism of T3? Will Havoc, M-Drol, Epistane, etc. work or do you need an AAS?

The only anabolic I am currently sitting on is some M4OHN & MDIEN.
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I gained strength on 50 mcg T3 and 100 mg h-drol. I'm assuming 50 mg h-drol would be sufficient to maintain. Depends on caloric deficet though... I was at around 1300-1500.
 
KingMeso said:
Question:

How strong of an anabolic do you need to counter-act the possible catabolism of T3? Will Havoc, M-Drol, Epistane, etc. work or do you need an AAS?

The only anabolic I am currently sitting on is some M4OHN & MDIEN.
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If dosed high enough, all of the ones you list should be fine. You will need to closely monitor yourself because some guys have a predisposition to lose muscle mass over fat when on T3 even when they are on standard doses of injectables.
 
Manchester said:
If dosed high enough, all of the ones you list should be fine. You will need to closely monitor yourself because some guys have a predisposition to lose muscle mass over fat when on T3 even when they are on standard doses of injectables.
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Rob?


Anyways, I must not have that predisposition... or maybe a switch is flipped the higher you go...
 
Ive run many t3 cycles with no adverse effects, ive had blood work done after every one, i do follow a strict taper down though from my max dose (150mcg's).

As for anabolics, ive experienced strength loss on anything less than 500mg of test enathate a week; that included Sdrol, tbol, pplex etc (lost anything for 5-20% on lifts).

I also rate it for its nutrient turnover properties at 50mcgs a day.
 
I seem to gain strength with T3 if I'm below 50 mcg. I wonder what the optimal dose if for increasing protein synthesis while avoiding catabolism.
 
I think it depends on far too many factors per individual.

For me 50mcgs a day is great for protein turnover without the risk of losing strength / lean tissue.

That said ive never gone up to 75mcgs for example because i know how quickly i can lose strength on the stuff.
 
Hello all. Just curious after reading the entire thread and posting to it also. I have a bottle of liquid T3 from IBE technologies. It is probably over 2 yrs old. Never been opened, and kept in a dark, cool place the entire time. What is the consensus on this?

Still good?
If you had it, would you use it? (im thinking of running it at 50mcg, like many of the posters here, for protein turnover, etc.

thanks guys

0-hero said:
I think it depends on far too many factors per individual.

For me 50mcgs a day is great for protein turnover without the risk of losing strength / lean tissue.

That said ive never gone up to 75mcgs for example because i know how quickly i can lose strength on the stuff.
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msucurt said:
Hello all. Just curious after reading the entire thread and posting to it also. I have a bottle of liquid T3 from IBE technologies. It is probably over 2 yrs old. Never been opened, and kept in a dark, cool place the entire time. What is the consensus on this?

Still good?
If you had it, would you use it? (im thinking of running it at 50mcg, like many of the posters here, for protein turnover, etc.

thanks guys
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The worst thing that would happen is it wouldn't work. Go for it.
 
I have done T3 at 50 mcg for 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and don't recommend it.

T3 is really the next step in abusing fat burners because your diet is out. You shouldn't have any problems losing 2.2 pounds or 1 kg a week without any fat burners. I don't use fat burners anymore personally and feel irresponsible for using them in the past.
 
I have been on triac now for almost 45 days,IM down at least 20 lbs.In these weeks I have done about 15 45 min cardio sessions and Iv been on a very clean low carb diet.I dont even have the strenght to do cardio at some points.My main goal was fat loss,I have so much meat on me that I can run it this long.I actually look 3x bigger but feel completly flat.I have found the sweat spot in how much triac to take without being drained out.The old trimax was dosses to strong,the real stuff comes in at .35 and the triax was 1mg each and would shock you way to hard if you took 3 a day.

I just ordered another 200 .35 tabs and I will run triac for 3 months straight.

I dont recomend anyone do this enless you know exactly what your taking and doing,I have done many triac cycles and in my opinion a short cycle is really bad,this stuff shuts you down hard in like 3 days and it takes up to a year to get back to 100% normal thyriod function.If your gona take it you might aswell use it for a while to get the most out of it.

I got this from greece and even there doctors run long term use for fatloss,but just at the right dosses.I might just do 3 more weeks and stop,but at this point I have found that 5 tabs works awesome for me,I feel fine and I can actually work out.At first I was up to 12 tabs a day and I will never do that again.

If you guys can get triac I would take it over t3 anyday....t3 is just for making you lose muscle.Triac is so much safer than t3 also.

I have tried them all.and every time triac wins for me hands down
 
Hi all, I was diagnosed with a low t3 syndrome after competing and my doctor put me on a very high dose protocol.
Basically my body temp was several degrees below normal so I had to take t3 (liothyronine) 2x/day in increments of 7.5. I would also have to take my temperature 3x/day and jack up the dose every day until it was normal (98.6). I got up to 97.5 mcg's 2x/day!!! This is a big deal since I am 5'3"...Since then I've been cycling back down and am now down to 45 mcg 2x/day. It has been 4 months on t3.
What I can tell you about my experience is that if you are cutting it will do wonders. I was not cutting and basically lost no fat and 12 lbs of muscle.
SO if you take this and think you don't need to diet most likely it will be something you pay for with your hard earned muscle.
Even at 97.5 2x the only sides I experienced was my heart beating out of my chest. I would be walking on the tred and be up to 185bpm. Other than that I was fine at that level.
we'll see what happens as I come off...
 
summer cycle

hi! im 24ys old, 6,1-2 and 260lbs, training like 4yrs now

in about 6 weeks id like to cut with T3 with PH cycle!
(LG trifecta since i bought it 2yrs ago)

week 1 25
week 2 50
week 3 75mcg
week 4 50mcg

After finishing with 50mcg can i simply quit taking it? I mean taper from 50 is not necessery right?:)

After the 4th week i would start clen, what i used before, up to 75mg!

(during this i will use bcaa, after 4th week creatine too)

Suggestions?:)
 
crader said:
I'm taking BCAA's and clen which are both anabolic. I only take 25mcg of T3. I'm on about 60mcg of clen right now and I'm ready to up the dose again.
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bcaa's are anabolic? clen is anabolic in humans??? just...no. i guess the term anabolic is a very loose generalization
 
jjsafari said:
bcaa's are anabolic? clen is anabolic in humans??? just...no. i guess the term anabolic is a very loose generalization
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Anything that improves protein turn over and nitrogen retention (AKA builds muscle and prevents catabolism) is anabolic, including BCAAs, more importantly Leucine. Clen on the other has nothing showing such in humans.
 
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