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Did Anabolic Pump Work for you

Did Anabolic Pump Work for you????

  • Yes, I could tell from day 1

    Votes: 127 23.9%
  • No

    Votes: 207 38.9%
  • Yes, but it took a little while

    Votes: 145 27.3%
  • No, but looking back i didnt research enough to get the most out of it

    Votes: 53 10.0%

  • Total voters
    532
way to be professional to loyal customers.
Ropehead, come on man... You're not an idiot. You seem like you're smarter than the typical consumer for sure. USPLabs gets smashed on the boards by many retards who don't follow instructions or can't dial in their diet correctly.

Anabolic Pump and P-Slin require an IQ of atleast 85 to even have a chance at working.

Your diet must be correct. Not perfect, but just... consistent and clean. Is this so hard? Apparently.

You must take Anabolic Pump on an EMPTY stomach with atleast 12-16oz of water (piece of cake) so the pill slides down into your tummy tum tum :)

15 minutes later, eat a balanced meal that has atleast 40 grams (net count) of complex carbohydrates.

Most people (sadly to say) are uneducated on nutrition and most people (even sadder) don't have common sense!
 
Doubt you are a loyal customer, and I rather not have you as a customer spewing pure ignorance.
fair enough. ill make sure my clients and I spend our money elsewhere. im oblivious to how giving personal feedback on a product is idiocy when that's clearly what your thread is asking and inquiring about. as well as the refilling dirty bottles to cut corners(which has still not been answered) is ignorance, then so be it. the six bottles purchased for my trainees will be returned for primaforce in the morning. im assuming you don't need the business of the local shops that i have ordered for as well who were also put off by reused containers. they can see your response themselves and make their own decision.
thanks for the kind customer service.
 
fair enough. ill make sure my clients and I spend our money elsewhere. im oblivious to how giving personal feedback on a product is idiocy when that's clearly what your thread is asking and inquiring about. as well as the refilling dirty bottles to cut corners(which has still not been answered) is ignorance, then so be it. the six bottles purchased for my trainees will be returned for primaforce in the morning. im assuming you don't need the business of the local shops that i have ordered for as well who were also put off by reused containers. they can see your response themselves and make their own decision.
thanks for the kind customer service.

You pretending to be a customer is translucent and reflects borderline ignorance. With your skewed views on insulin and supplementation posted in this thread, the ignorant part might just be validated.

Return the product and move on. I have.
 
fair enough. ill make sure my clients and I spend our money elsewhere. im oblivious to how giving personal feedback on a product is idiocy when that's clearly what your thread is asking and inquiring about. as well as the refilling dirty bottles to cut corners(which has still not been answered) is ignorance, then so be it. the six bottles purchased for my trainees will be returned for primaforce in the morning. im assuming you don't need the business of the local shops that i have ordered for as well who were also put off by reused containers. they can see your response themselves and make their own decision.
thanks for the kind customer service.
Ropehead, stop pretending to be a customer. It's lame... It's really lame. I know plenty of habitual liars and they all sound the same... Makes me want to slowly reach my hand forward and give a crisp pimp-smack to the cheek. ;)
 
why wereyou wipeing out cortisol form your body :blink:

Cortisol is directly related to fat storage... paticularly abdominal fat..... correct?

Taken from your website: The scientist created a fat cell that attracts glucose by adding in a corticosteroid (cortisol) and insulin! Anabolic-Pump™ transformed a highly lipogenic (fat gaining) environment into a lipophobic (fat repelling) environment!

So according to this AP would've been basically neutralizing the effects of cortisol anyways? So what is your point?


I read the AP page on your site more carefully. I got a good laugh of your bullshit claims this stuff is like steroids. "Dramatically reduce body fat while gaining layers of muscle - Previously impossible without Anabolic Steroids "

However when I read the rest of the page looking for the actual mechanism how this supposed fat loss is supposed to occour, all I found was details on not gaining MORE fat. "Prevents an increase in fat mass and MAY even reduce fat mass."

Not saying AP is a scam. The GLUT-4 science does not lie. But advertising steroid like gains, and then HALF the people who used AP did not get anything from it? I think you just set everyone up for dissapointment with your CELLTECH marketing tactics.
 
I think the biggest mistake USP made was to show before and after pictures when advertising this product .In the days of computer technology its quite easy to modify a photograph.I dont know if in this case , that happened but we have all seen before and after pictures in muscle magazines which i feel personally can be taken not too seriously.
quote from advert;-
Research shows each dose can keep GLUT4 activated for 6-8 hours. So simply take 1 capsule before 3 meals and you have created a 'round-the-clock anabolic-environment that doesn't mess with your natural hormonal levels!

Have you this research on file and are willing to make public?

Figures have been quoted regarding fat loss and muscle gain on natural bodybuilder Armando Aversa but we are all different and not everyone can achieve those figures that have been quoted. Its misleading as one would expect to get similar results.

I also wonder if his occupation as a personal trainer why would he let himself get out of shape as indicated in the picture on the left in the advert?

quote from advert "When You Take Anabolic-Pump™ You Will Wake Up Each Morning With More Muscle Tissue And Less Bodyfat Than You Had When You Went To Sleep… Every Single Day!" On a daily basis i would imagine any change would be hardly noticeable so to confirm this surely some sort of measuring needs to be done.Have you information on file to confirm this was the case on Armando Aversa ? Were any more test subjects involved?
 
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Taken from your website: The scientist created a fat cell that attracts glucose by adding in a corticosteroid (cortisol) and insulin! Anabolic-Pump™ transformed a highly lipogenic (fat gaining) environment into a lipophobic (fat repelling) environment!
Distilled Water is not affiliated with USPLabs. See his signature.

metalman302 said:
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So according to this AP would've been basically neutralizing the effects of cortisol anyways? So what is your point?
Again, you misunderstood Distilled Water completely. His question was an allusion to the fact that you stacked LX2 and Retain 2. He did not refer to Anabolic Pump!

metalman302 said:
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I read the AP page on your site more carefully. I got a good laugh of your bullshit claims this stuff is like steroids. "Dramatically reduce body fat while gaining layers of muscle - Previously impossible without Anabolic Steroids "

However when I read the rest of the page looking for the actual mechanism how this supposed fat loss is supposed to occour, all I found was details on not gaining MORE fat. "Prevents an increase in fat mass and MAY even reduce fat mass."
I thought the mechanism was clear!


metalman302 said:
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Not saying AP is a scam. The GLUT-4 science does not lie. But advertising steroid like gains, and then HALF the people who used AP did not get anything from it? I think you just set everyone up for dissapointment with your CELLTECH marketing tactics.

If one understands how GLUT-4 truly works and learns to consume carbohydrates (and proteins) accordingly, the gains can be quite anabolic.
 
You guys have all gotten your panties in a bundle over this one. I believe the poll was about if the product has worked for YOU and perhaps why or why not. It didn't? Then either you didn't use it properly or it falls into the category of 90% of supplements which is the "precarious at best" category, or perhaps you did use it right but you're diet and/or training needs some development.

I have a bottle of Recreate and AP coming for my upcoming cut which is for month three (month one: naturale; month two: dcp/LR; month three: recreate/AP). I will do what it takes to lose 2 lbs of fat per week during my cut and if I'm lucky, those supplements, when taken properly, will make my life easier. I'm Italian, I like carbs, so I think AP will work great for me.

I'm not ignorant. It's obvious that at the end of the bottle I will have still lost 2 lbs of body fat a week, no more and no less, because I will ensure it through training and diet. And I know that other than maybe a touch of recomp, I will not see layer after layer of muscle all the while the fat melts away like warm butter. Thus, I will not come back to this thread stirring the pot talking about how shitty the product is and how it didn't do anything for me and how my life and every who liked AP sucks. Oh yah and USP Labs, YOU SUCK! (Spoken in whiny biotch voice because I eat pizza and beer and wonder why the magic pills don't make me ripped).

And if I may as a final note: I don't think anyone in their right mind looks at the before and after pictures as a judge of the products effectiveness. Those guys probably went on competition diets and training while taking AP and obviously the former is the most effective way to get to "after" there is.

I'm sorry, I just had to get that all out :)
 
I think the biggest mistake USP made was to show before and after pictures when advertising this product .In the days of computer technology its quite easy to modify a photograph.I dont know if in this case , that happened but we have all seen before and after pictures in muscle magazines which i feel personally can be taken not too seriously.
quote from advert;-
Research shows each dose can keep GLUT4 activated for 6-8 hours. So simply take 1 capsule before 3 meals and you have created a 'round-the-clock anabolic-environment that doesn't mess with your natural hormonal levels!

Have you this research on file and are willing to make public?

Figures have been quoted regarding fat loss and muscle gain on natural bodybuilder Armando Aversa but we are all different and not everyone can achieve those figures that have been quoted. Its misleading as one would expect to get similar results.

I also wonder if his occupation as a personal trainer why would he let himself get out of shape as indicated in the picture on the left in the advert?

quote from advert "When You Take Anabolic-Pump™ You Will Wake Up Each Morning With More Muscle Tissue And Less Bodyfat Than You Had When You Went To Sleep… Every Single Day!" On a daily basis i would imagine any change would be hardly noticeable so to confirm this surely some sort of measuring needs to be done.Have you information on file to confirm this was the case on Armando Aversa ? Were any more test subjects involved?


We plastered the research all over the message boards. You just have to search or look up the references.

Anabolic Pump has proven itself day in and day out for the last 18 months. You are questioning advertising that was released 18 months ago.

You are questioning a supplement as if it was just released. AP is proven in the real world and with science.

A personal trainer is not allowed to get out of shape. I've seen professional Boxers and MMA stars lose **** load of money because they do not make weight.
Since you give advice on a Message board, I expect you to be in shape and never fall out of shape.

Movie stars, models, and sports stars who make millions fall out of shape and back into shape.

Everyone is not perfect.
 
quote from advert;-
Research shows each dose can keep GLUT4 activated for 6-8 hours. So simply take 1 capsule before 3 meals and you have created a 'round-the-clock anabolic-environment that doesn't mess with your natural hormonal levels!

?


Anabolic pump is also a PPAr gamma antagonist so not Only are we down regulating GLUT4 in Fat cells(blocking glucose into fat cells!!!). We are stimulating lipolysis by antagonizing PPAr gamma in fat cells.

Thank you for reminding me!

The problem with Anabolic Pump is that it's over your head.
 
For someone who is a spokesperson for a company which exports world wide (i presume)I find your tone far from professional .I know the product has been out for sometime but since I contributed to this forum , there hasnt exactly been a rush to defend the product.
 
for anyone who has issues/is not seeing results with this product, you may have made an error.

for the representatives at USP labs, this product IS IS IS a bit over-the-head of the average lifter. do not become frustrated with people who have put stock in your product. instead, calmly explain to them what it is this product does, and what they need to do to ensure that the process occurs. you should not return slander to the customer; this will only affirm their skewed beliefs and cause them to spread negativity about what you represent.

you need to explain to them the process and all parts of it. define the parts. it's not their fault that they are not chemists. they are merely chasing a dream, a body they see under their eyelids. and they give you their money in hopes that what you give them will make the mirror match. give each other a break and let's actually have a REAL, TRUE, SIMPLE breakdown of what's going on here. it'll benefit you and us.
 
for anyone who has issues/is not seeing results with this product, you may have made an error.

for the representatives at USP labs, this product IS IS IS a bit over-the-head of the average lifter. do not become frustrated with people who have put stock in your product. instead, calmly explain to them what it is this product does, and what they need to do to ensure that the process occurs. you should not return slander to the customer; this will only affirm their skewed beliefs and cause them to spread negativity about what you represent.

you need to explain to them the process and all parts of it. define the parts. it's not their fault that they are not chemists. they are merely chasing a dream, a body they see under their eyelids. and they give you their money in hopes that what you give them will make the mirror match. give each other a break and let's actually have a REAL, TRUE, SIMPLE breakdown of what's going on here. it'll benefit you and us.


At USPlabs, we take our customer servious and take all the time and effort to reccomend diets and design supplement protocols. When the customer is genuine we go the extra mile.
These are not customers.

We have insight that "another" company is purposely slandering and it's obvious which company that is. These are not "members" asking questions but directly slandering the product without asking questions. The attacks are obvious.

Anabolic Pump has been explained in depth especially on AnabolicMinds. This is not something we avoid but explaining to "members" whose objective is to slander is a waste of time, and a simple search could give them all the answers they needed on AP.

Anabolic Pump has proven itself on AnabolicMinds for the last 18 months.
 
At USPlabs, we take our customer servious and take all the time and effort to reccomend diets and design supplement protocols. When the customer is genuine we go the extra mile.
These are not customers.

We have insight that "another" company is purposely slandering and it's obvious which company that is. These are not "members" asking questions but directly slandering the product without asking questions. The attacks are obvious.

Anabolic Pump has been explained in depth especially on AnabolicMinds. This is not something we avoid but explaining to "members" whose objective is to slander is a waste of time, and a simple search could give them all the answers they needed on AP.

Anabolic Pump has proven itself on AnabolicMinds for the last 18 months.


it's still not an intelligent decision to give slander back to slanderers. if they are out to sabotage, re-explain your position and back your product politely. it's your job to help US see through their slander, and if you don't wanna do that job, then some who merely take a quick view will cut themselves off from your product for good.

and business likes business.
 
it's still not an intelligent decision to give slander back to slanderers. if they are out to sabotage, re-explain your position and back your product politely. it's your job to help US see through their slander, and if you don't wanna do that job, then some who merely take a quick view will cut themselves off from your product for good.

and business likes business.
I agree with you on that man, don't sink to their level. you'll appear to be as low as these slanderers are. well anyways im getting a shipment in 2morrow(3 AP's+1 PF) and i can't wait to try these supps out! USP i'll probably be PMing you to help me out with this:)
 
I agree with you on that man, don't sink to their level. you'll appear to be as low as these slanderers are. well anyways im getting a shipment in 2morrow(3 AP's+1 PF) and i can't wait to try these supps out! USP i'll probably be PMing you to help me out with this:)


I tend to disagree. Since the audience is not aware of the sabatoge, they should be made aware of it. The real customer already understands the Mechanism of action of Anabolic Pump. The real customer is not lying.

Currenty Senator Obama has a website slandering his campaign with lies. He has to make the audience aware of slander (he pays consultants hundreds of thousand of dollars to address the issues). You can not treat slander like you would treat a real customer.
 
I tend to disagree. Since the audience is not aware of the sabatoge, they should be made aware of it. The real customer already understands the Mechanism of action of Anabolic Pump. The real customer is not lying.

Currenty Senator Obama has a website slandering his campaign with lies. He has to make the audience aware of slander (he pays consultants hundreds of thousand of dollars to address the issues). You can not treat slander like you would treat a real customer.

but you can prove YOUR case and then ask them to prove THEIRS. so long as your product is solid, they'll have NOTHING to say about it.
 
it's still not an intelligent decision to give slander back to slanderers. if they are out to sabotage, re-explain your position and back your product politely. it's your job to help US see through their slander, and if you don't wanna do that job, then some who merely take a quick view will cut themselves off from your product for good.

and business likes business.

X2

The average person does not want to have to to a bunch of research just to use a supplement which promotes itself as having steroid like gains.

Myself and many others here followed everything right and did not get any pump or vascularity at all. NONE


FWIW - USP labs, can you show me a worthy log here with pics that "Proves" AP? I looked at Rivets log, and no offense to him, but that log is a joke as far as proving the effectiveness of AP. The pics are a joke. His back looks exactly the same in both pics. I thought his traps were bigger at first but then I noticed he's holding his arms up at an angle in the second pic. His love handles did shrink nicely so props on that. And if his before and after size stats are correct then he did add muscle and loose fat at the same time. But judging by his pics I'd say it was noobie gains and/or placebo effect.
 
well my order of AP will be here 2morrow and i will be happy to give my unbiased opinion on it(after a few weeks of use). i will post it on this thread i guess
 
X2

The average person does not want to have to to a bunch of research just to use a supplement which promotes itself as having steroid like gains.

Myself and many others here followed everything right and did not get any pump or vascularity at all. NONE


FWIW - USP labs, can you show me a worthy log here with pics that "Proves" AP? I looked at Rivets log, and no offense to him, but that log is a joke as far as proving the effectiveness of AP. The pics are a joke. His back looks exactly the same in both pics. I thought his traps were bigger at first but then I noticed he's holding his arms up at an angle in the second pic. His love handles did shrink nicely so props on that. And if his before and after size stats are correct then he did add muscle and loose fat at the same time. But judging by his pics I'd say it was noobie gains and/or placebo effect.


check out post 229 and 249 and check out post 45 from the board admistrator that has been at this a long time..great story!

alot of great testimonials from the RESPECTED members of this board.

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check out post 229 and 249 and check out post 45 from the board admistrator that has been at this a long time..great story!

alot of great testimonials from the RESPECTED members of this board.

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those pics are very impressive! i hope to have similar results!
 
There is implication in what you say (USP LABS ) that i am slandering your product because i work for another supplement company.You are so far from the truth. I am just a hardworking guy who like many others , has a limited amount of cash to spend on supplements. The supplements we take need to be a good solid product . Bringing a product out which leaves any doubt in your mind as to whether it will or will not work should be left on the shelf.and supplement companies should do more to bring out good solid products.
The 2012 Olympics is coming up I would expect to see a huge development on OTC products which athletes can use and contribute wholeheartedly to their training.Then we just might see some decent products available to the general public, that DO work for everyone.
 
My experience is that Anabolic Pump will work if you can tune your diet to it, and understand how your body reacts to carbohydrate consumption and timing. It is not a quick fix supplement, nor an excuse to neglect nutrition.

I have recently changed from a clean to a dirty(ish) bulk - and I have put on fat (3,500 - 5000, 5500 cal) while still using AP and PSlin. However, muscle gains are evident as well.

This does not imply the product does not work, it means due to diet and body type (reactive type II) it cannot mitigate all fat accumulation.

I know the product is still working, because I can feel the effects still on my workout.

I know the product is working, because I have had previous fat loss/muscle gain on a clean bulk.

I know the product works, because I've read most of the logs on AM to help me fine tune my supplementation, and respect the loggers who have tested them and the reps for their advice.

Innovators will always have their naysayers, and remember USPLabs have built their reputation from word-of-mouth..
 
X2

The average person does not want to have to to a bunch of research just to use a supplement which promotes itself as having steroid like gains.

Myself and many others here followed everything right and did not get any pump or vascularity at all. NONE


FWIW - USP labs, can you show me a worthy log here with pics that "Proves" AP? I looked at Rivets log, and no offense to him, but that log is a joke as far as proving the effectiveness of AP. The pics are a joke. His back looks exactly the same in both pics. I thought his traps were bigger at first but then I noticed he's holding his arms up at an angle in the second pic. His love handles did shrink nicely so props on that. And if his before and after size stats are correct then he did add muscle and loose fat at the same time. But judging by his pics I'd say it was noobie gains and/or placebo effect.

hey man, Im not usp reps or anything.. that person on food pump (#249) is me.. Im not getting anything at all from posting that pics, just want to say that AP is the real deal.. you can ask anything to me..
 
hey man, Im not usp reps or anything.. that person on food pump (#249) is me.. Im not getting anything at all from posting that pics, just want to say that AP is the real deal.. you can ask anything to me..

Damn! Very nice results indeed!
 
For someone who is a spokesperson for a company which exports world wide (i presume)I find your tone far from professional .I know the product has been out for sometime but since I contributed to this forum , there hasnt exactly been a rush to defend the product.
the guy has some serious mental issues. he thinks everyone on here are spies from other companies. i just had one simple question about the reused dirty bottles which he refuses to answer. coming back with irrelevant statements like "you dont know anything about insulin" to avoid answering a simple question.
i tried complimenting the first bottle i tried that i was impressed with and was called an idiot. the only slandering has come from the usp labs guy on here.bolic was sold in plastic bags with a label because he ran out of bottles? well what happens when you run out of cissus or anabolic pump? thats a scary thought when you consider the immaturity and unprofessionalism of the head of a company who acts like this and doesnt care if he insults and loses customers who have spent much money on these products like myself AND my clients. profit obviously superceeds integrity. as far as not being a real customer. as of now that is correct. i returned the products monday and have the receipts. ask any of your retailers in the dfw area and you will see how moronic your accusations are. and yes, many of them have already seen this and all of them will.
 
I am gonna have to agree that AP is the real deal. I have never been able to eat carbs in excess without getting fat. Now, being the same weight, and leaner with a bigger chest, broader shoulders, and more muscle tone, there is nothing else I can contribute it to.

Make sure you eat the right carbs and work out. Miracles aren't gonna happen from a pill. you have to follow the guidelines and they will "assist" you in your progress.

To USP labs, ignore the haters. You know as well as your customers know that AP is the real deal and that it does work.
 
Damn! Very nice results indeed!

thanks..
when first I bought AP and still a moron bout AP I asked Usplabs reps and usplabs himself. they answered my question with no slandering or anything. they do care about customer like me.. in facts, I was asking for a very stupid question and they answered my question with respect. not trying to kiss ass, but its the truth.
 
I am gonna have to agree that AP is the real deal. I have never been able to eat carbs in excess without getting fat. Now, being the same weight, and leaner with a bigger chest, broader shoulders, and more muscle tone, there is nothing else I can contribute it to.

Make sure you eat the right carbs and work out. Miracles aren't gonna happen from a pill. you have to follow the guidelines and they will "assist" you in your progress.

To USP labs, ignore the haters. You know as well as your customers know that AP is the real deal and that it does work.

:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
 
I love most of USPs products. I was taking cissus regularly and powerFull for pct and I tried a cycle of just powerFUll and Cissus and had good results both times. So props to USP for great products, but I've been through 3 bottles of AP. I used 45 days worth for a cutting cycle (100-150g carbs/day) and 45 days worth for a bulking cycle (50-80g carbs/meal w/AP) and really didn't notice much of a difference. But I've also seen results from people who have used AP and gotten really great results. So I think USP has kept up with their claims, they make excellent products. I think it just depends on how your body responds to it, like all products.

- Get the Nabisco habit.

I agree 100%!

Supplements do not have a 100% success rate just like medication.
 
the guy has some serious mental issues. he thinks everyone on here are spies from other companies. i just had one simple question about the reused dirty bottles which he refuses to answer. coming back with irrelevant statements like "you dont know anything about insulin" to avoid answering a simple question.
i tried complimenting the first bottle i tried that i was impressed with and was called an idiot. the only slandering has come from the usp labs guy on here.bolic was sold in plastic bags with a label because he ran out of bottles? well what happens when you run out of cissus or anabolic pump? thats a scary thought when you consider the immaturity and unprofessionalism of the head of a company who acts like this and doesnt care if he insults and loses customers who have spent much money on these products like myself AND my clients. profit obviously superceeds integrity. as far as not being a real customer. as of now that is correct. i returned the products monday and have the receipts. ask any of your retailers in the dfw area and you will see how moronic your accusations are. and yes, many of them have already seen this and all of them will.

Scan the return receipt, post it(in this thread) and , I will call the DFW store to confirm, and I will owe you a HUGE apology and will DOUBLE refund your money.
 
Scan the return receipt, post it(in this thread) and , I will call the DFW store to confirm, and I will owe you a HUGE apology and will DOUBLE refund your money.
you will get more than enough proof very soon.
this is not about money but loyalty and integrity to customers who have nothing to go on but trust when putting your products in our bodies.
im not looking for an apology nor do i want a single dime from you i assure you.
once you have your proof of my many purchases that equal hundreds of dollars(not including the cash purchases where no receipt was given) all i ask of you is to answer the question and ill be gone from this thread as long as im not brought back into it.thats it.
ill be able to post links at the 20 post mark. in the meantime, if you wish to do so....contact your retailer of choice in the north dallas area and inquire about my purchases and loyalty to them. usn,etc.
 
you will get more than enough proof very soon.
this is not about money but loyalty and integrity to customers who have nothing to go on but trust when putting your products in our bodies.
im not looking for an apology nor do i want a single dime from you i assure you.
once you have your proof of my many purchases that equal hundreds of dollars(not including the cash purchases where no receipt was given) all i ask of you is to answer the question and ill be gone from this thread as long as im not brought back into it.thats it.
ill be able to post links at the 20 post mark. in the meantime, if you wish to do so....contact your retailer of choice in the north dallas area and inquire about my purchases and loyalty to them. usn,etc.

Tell me who to contact? we have over 50 retailers in the DFW area and who do I speak with?
 
hmmmmm (rubs chin...).

Ok....so yeah, I live in Dallas, and go to Denton every day. I know alot more about USP labs than I'd like to simply because i couldnt believe a big supp company could exist in Denton of all places...... haha anyway....I have this to say:

Both AP & Super Cissus (havent tried any other) are good products. AP works well in increasing insulin sensitivity in some users, but again its JUST A SUPPLEMENT ... The herb/tree bark extract from Lagerstroemia Speciosa (indian plant - grown only in asia) has reportedly been used in India for Diabeties for some time....Im sure USP has some of their own research on it because i wouldnt think any indian company medical company would put a scientific study on the stuff......

Anyway rambling aside, it does have an effect on blood sugar levels FOR ME (I cannt speak for everyone). For example, if I take 1 AP, and dont eat, i get very irritated and light headed, take 2 AP....and im practically clawing my way to the refridgerater after 30 mins.

The Super Cissus works well on my tendons and I get about a 30% decrease in healing time. (same injury, tried without supp and with supp on diff occasions and can say for certain cissus works well).

Anyway, one shouldnt expect mircales from supplements like this. They are aids to help you achieve your goals. That is it. A simple tool, not the machine.

I would bet my money that some users will respond, and some will genuinley not. (for example some people dont respond to marijuana .....get the point?)

AP is a good product that will work for some and not for others. Simple as that.

If it didnt work for you, dont buy it again. I belive whole heartedly it didnt and you are obviously not lieing.

..I do question those photos you guys have as proof though....to be honest for a super responder to 90% of anything i take in....they are slightly exagerated.... Reminds me of the muscletech ads....

"I gained 30lbs on Cell-tech and got shredded" - yeah you fail to mention you also took roids aswell. So TECHNICALLY it is true, they did gain 30lbs WHILE taking Cell-tech.....

Need to stop rambling haha.
 
Tell me who to contact? we have over 50 retailers in the DFW area and who do I speak with?
so far ive got 4 usn receipts that are all from the last 2 weeks all with your products on them. be patient, i havent even gotten to the vitamin shoppe yet. and these are just credit cards not cash.
 
If you guys live in my country, there isnt such a thing as 'refund' , haha.. agreed on mashed potato..
 
I got no beef with Indo, christian or otherwise. I'm a Lesbotarian by the way :rofl:

hahaha.. okay.. I think Im into lesbo, too.. :toofunny:
one time, I posted on australian customs thread, and they begun to mock indonesia because Im indonesian.. (cool with me, as Indonesian deserved it) btw, you won at powerfull contest, right?? are they arrived yet?? mine will be ship today from usplabs (for before aftrs on food pumps thread)..:woohoo: I really2 dont understand why still theres haters??? usplabs very nice.. :D
 
hmmmmm (rubs chin...).

Ok....so yeah, I live in Dallas, and go to Denton every day. I know alot more about USP labs than I'd like to simply because i couldnt believe a big supp company could exist in Denton of all places...... haha anyway....I have this to say:

Both AP & Super Cissus (havent tried any other) are good products. AP works well in increasing insulin sensitivity in some users, but again its JUST A SUPPLEMENT ... The herb/tree bark extract from Lagerstroemia Speciosa (indian plant - grown only in asia) has reportedly been used in India for Diabeties for some time....Im sure USP has some of their own research on it because i wouldnt think any indian company medical company would put a scientific study on the stuff......

Anyway rambling aside, it does have an effect on blood sugar levels FOR ME (I cannt speak for everyone). For example, if I take 1 AP, and dont eat, i get very irritated and light headed, take 2 AP....and im practically clawing my way to the refridgerater after 30 mins.

The Super Cissus works well on my tendons and I get about a 30% decrease in healing time. (same injury, tried without supp and with supp on diff occasions and can say for certain cissus works well).

Anyway, one shouldnt expect mircales from supplements like this. They are aids to help you achieve your goals. That is it. A simple tool, not the machine.

I would bet my money that some users will respond, and some will genuinley not. (for example some people dont respond to marijuana .....get the point?)

AP is a good product that will work for some and not for others. Simple as that.

If it didnt work for you, dont buy it again. I belive whole heartedly it didnt and you are obviously not lieing.

..I do question those photos you guys have as proof though....to be honest for a super responder to 90% of anything i take in....they are slightly exagerated.... Reminds me of the muscletech ads....

"I gained 30lbs on Cell-tech and got shredded" - yeah you fail to mention you also took roids aswell. So TECHNICALLY it is true, they did gain 30lbs WHILE taking Cell-tech.....

Need to stop rambling haha.


I dont have any proof, but not like in US every supps has low price, in indonesia has an insane price.. so, I didnt take much supps because the money factor.. that pics is very very legit, just 2 bootles AP.. not like the other before afters, I understate it just 2 bootles.. :D
 
hahaha.. okay.. I think Im into lesbo, too.. :toofunny:
one time, I posted on australian customs thread, and they begun to mock indonesia because Im indonesian.. (cool with me, as Indonesian deserved it) btw, you won at powerfull contest, right?? are they arrived yet?? mine will be ship today from usplabs (for before aftrs on food pumps thread)..:woohoo: I really2 dont understand why still theres haters??? usplabs very nice.. :D

Im actally a kiwi, bro. We're too far away from everywhere to give a sh1t. We only hate the French. And maybe the Poms. The Aussies during important sporting events (Olympics don't count). The Yanks have been known to get on our tits, and those South Africans are a bunch of meat-eating cnuts.

The Aussie customs thread lads are by and large ok - sorry to hear someone got stuck into you just because you're from Indo. I guess the Bali bombing really hit a nerve with the Aussies - no excuse to lay into you for it though mate.

BTW: there are haters because MFers always like to complain about something. Ignore them I say.

Take it easy mate.
 
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