Acne with Epistane or 11-Oxo?

Swifto

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I'm thinking of running either Epistane or 11-oxo for 4-5 weeks followed by a proper PCT including 6-oxo Extreme and Torm.

wk 1-4 Epi (10/20/20/30)

Is what I'm thinking, then maybe a 11-oxo 4-5 weeks burst a few months after.

Has anyone experienced acne from either product? I'm fairly prone to acne (using various anabolics) and really wish to avoid it?
 
Swifto said:
I'm thinking of running either Epistane or 11-oxo for 4-5 weeks followed by a proper PCT including 6-oxo Extreme and Torm.

wk 1-4 Epi (10/20/20/30)

Is what I'm thinking, then maybe a 11-oxo 4-5 weeks burst a few months after.

Has anyone experienced acne from either product? I'm fairly prone to acne (using various anabolics) and really wish to avoid it?
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yes ive used both and had some acne on both. not on the face just the back. and what other anabolics have u used?
 
bigpapa said:
yes ive used both and had some acne on both. not on the face just the back. and what other anabolics have u used?
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I've used Test Enan, Test Prop, Tbol and a host of ancillaries.

I put the acne down to the estrogen and androgen buildup from the Test Enan/Prop. Not the Tbol. Estrogen being the main cause, I think. I also broke out during PCT, due to fluctuating hormone levels. I only used Proviron for estrogen control, which I found very mild.

I do have Accutane on hand, but dont really want to combine Epistane with it. You'll prbably know why...
 
I did get a little acne from a 11oxo cycle. Nothing really big or noticable, but I could tell when I looked in the mirror. I have never had a problem with acne growing up. So keep that in mind.

Personally I would just suck it up and only use the accutane after you are done with the cycle. Think of it this way. Would you rather have acne for a couple weeks or a messed up liver a lot longer.:hammer: Easy question IMHO.
 
Maybe I've been taking so many damned anti-oxidants with my cycle, but I've been running 450mg 11-OXO (just bumped it to 900mg), 150mg H-Drol, 300mg Furaz and my skin has been clearing up and looking better. The first phase of my cycle consisted of MMV2, Epi, 11-OXO, Halo, without Furaz.
 
Force of Green said:
Maybe I've been taking so many damned anti-oxidants with my cycle, but I've been running 450mg 11-OXO (just bumped it to 900mg), 150mg H-Drol, 300mg Furaz and my skin has been clearing up and looking better. The first phase of my cycle consisted of MMV2, Epi, 11-OXO, Halo, without Furaz.
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Wow!! How long of a cycle are you running? That looks like a nice little stack!! How is that working out for ya?

Do you have a log going on?
 
stl123 said:
Wow!! How long of a cycle are you running? That looks like a nice little stack!! How is that working out for ya?

Do you have a log going on?
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It'd be nice to have you jump onto the log... it got kinda... off-beat, but I'll update the workouts more now if you come over. Click the tinyurl in my signature and post up my friend!
 
Swifto said:
I'm thinking of running either Epistane or 11-oxo for 4-5 weeks followed by a proper PCT including 6-oxo Extreme and Torm.

wk 1-4 Epi (10/20/20/30)

Is what I'm thinking, then maybe a 11-oxo 4-5 weeks burst a few months after.

Has anyone experienced acne from either product? I'm fairly prone to acne (using various anabolics) and really wish to avoid it?
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i had no acne outside of the normal here and there. (i ran havoc 30ed)
 
I know Epistane doesnt aromotase, I;ve read it can actually aid in the reduction of existing gyno (which I have slightly) but what about 11-oxo?
 
Swifto said:
I know Epistane doesnt aromotase, I;ve read it can actually aid in the reduction of existing gyno (which I have slightly) but what about 11-oxo?
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11-oxo reducing gyno? i wouldn't count on it. it might aid in reducing chest fat but not particularly gyno. epistane run at 20mgs is genreally for reducing gyno.
 
bigpapa said:
11-oxo reducing gyno? i wouldn't count on it. it might aid in reducing chest fat but not particularly gyno. epistane run at 20mgs is genreally for reducing gyno.
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Ok. So Epi as I stated is probably the best bet for me. I've got some Accutane on hand.

What would you run for PCT? I'm thinking:

wk 1-5 Clomid 25-50mg/ED OR Torm 120/60/40
wk 1-6 6-oxo Extreme
 
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