List Of Prohormones And Clones!!!

Here's a triple stack in one for ya! It's Decabolen by CTD. It's a mix of 3 methyls in one cap. It's 10 mg. of Super-drol, 10 mg. of Phera-Plex, and 25 mg. of Halo-Drol in one capsule!! I can't wait to try these out (I have some of these also!). The funny thing is the side label says,"This product is NOT a steroid." Someone hasn't read much about Super-Drol, have they?! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
dethklok said:
Superdrol:
Oxodrol 12 by IDS
Halodrol:
Halovar by Purus Labs

You still got busted Russian

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Lol, thanks for that bro, even if everyone now hates me for giving you al the shiz, I dont care, Our pen knives maybe smaller but weve got vodka, it makes up for any thing we lack.
How did i get busted...explain:fool2:
 
Ok its been updated, love me or hate me, we are used to that in russia, i thought id copy something from an american instead of you stealing all our ideas....hehe.
 
thundergod said:
And it's also on the verge of being banned from what I gather. Oh well, I don't really like Phera much anywho! It's wet to me, and I'm not into bulking. It is very androgenic however, and I like it in a smaller dose (15 mg.) for pre-workout on some cycles. But I prefer Tren products, which also are facing this new ban! Screw the FDA!! :FUfinger: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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So do I, I like how it yields little mass gains(from what i've experienced so far), and great strength gains!
 
Do you guys know what I really like about this thread now? Being the cheap Bastage that I am, The next time I start to shop for some cheap clones, I'll have this list of many varieties to choose from! I haven't heard of a lot of these before. So, when I do shop for some clone designers again (it'll be a while yet, my stash is huge!) I'll come back to this thread and shop a little! I'm glad you did this Russian!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Any reason you left off the SNS Methyl-Drol XT(sd clone), SNS Methyl-Plex , the Generic Labz Epithin-E, Mega-Zol, Mega H. I know these are very scarce nowadays but they can still be found from time to time with some effort.
 
thundergod said:
Here's a triple stack in one for ya! It's Decabolen by CTD. It's a mix of 3 methyls in one cap. It's 10 mg. of Super-drol, 10 mg. of Phera-Plex, and 25 mg. of Halo-Drol in one capsule!! I can't wait to try these out (I have some of these also!). The funny thing is the side label says,"This product is NOT a steroid." Someone hasn't read much about Super-Drol, have they?! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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What's up, TG???
They're right, its NOT a steroid; it's 3 freaking steroids rolled into one happy little methylated capsule of liver failure!!!

I know that these days it's nothing to see these cocktail caps from 10 different manufacturers, but I'd be very cautious in regards to using these. Those of us who will do years of cycles are well advised to be careful. If possible, don't stack 3 methylated and known-harsh compounds!!

Just don't want anyone ending up like this guy....:sick:
 
Hey, another category you could add is the unmethylated Winstrol products, like Juggernaut Nutrition's WinZtrol, Prostanozol (not sure who makes it AX?) and there are a few others too I think. Good list btw Russian! :drunk:

WinZtrol
Compound
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol 50mg

Oops, N/M Ic that's already on there...
 
Thanks guys i will update this lits again later today with the new info youve given.
Cheers guys and thanks for the support!!!!
 
dethklok said:
No one hates you. You copied and pasted from bb.com and some of us are busting your balls about it. It is what men do; in forums and in real life.



The size difference between the swiss army knife and the russian army knife was not the joke. It is that the russian army knife is all bottle openers alluding to russia's greatest export, after siberian mail order brides, vodka.
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Haha, lol, i dont mind really, i like all the stick im getting about it, honestly no hard feelings, lol about the siberian mail order brides too!!!! good one.
 
Hey russianstar, I'd also change the prices of the products to match those of NutraPlanet's (those they stock). The CEL products on the list in particular are out by up to $10.
 
GuitarHero said:
Hey, another category you could add is the unmethylated Winstrol products, like Juggernaut Nutrition's WinZtrol, Prostanozol (not sure who makes it AX?) and there are a few others too I think. Good list btw Russian! :drunk:

WinZtrol
Compound
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol 50mg

Oops, N/M Ic that's already on there...
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Lol thanks for the reppage il be keeping you in mind for some payback, cheers bro!!!!
 
Cub said:
Hey russianstar, I'd also change the prices of the products to match those of NutraPlanet's (those they stock). The CEL products on the list in particular are out by up to $10.
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Ok man, could you tell me the prices, because i cant get through to nutraplanets shop online to check, i dont know why its just so slow.
 
Cub said:
H-DROL is $24.95
P-PLEX is $19.99
M-DROL is $21.99

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Thanks very much for your help!!!! It has been updated, You know together all of us here at am can make the greatest source of prohormones and clones anywhere.

I was thinking for those who have used the different clones mentioned, what would you rate them out of 10? if you have links to your logs with clones in please link them too!!!
Then all the info will be in one place, So norwegian can you link your H-drol log here, and rate H-drol out of 10, tell us how you used it, then if we all do that, the info will all be here, we will know whats a bum product and whats a great one!!!!
 
Ok here is a link to my first log using
CEL-M-drol at 10 mg every day.

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I would rate this product as a 9/10, i will use it next time as a cuteer as it is so dry, at 10 mg every day i had no sides, only amazing strength, and good lean gains.

Hope this helps.
 
Here's my ratings Russian. SUPER-DROL CLONES--CEL M-Drol: 9 out of 10. GAT Methyl Depot: 8 out of 10. PHERA-PLEX CLONES--EST Methyl-VOL: 8 out of 10. Juggernaut Phera-Bol: 7 out of 10. HALO-DROL CLONES--Fast Action Pharma H-Drol: 7 out of 10. EST Hemadrol: 8 out of 10. TRENADROL CLONES--ALRI Methoxy TRN: 9 out of 10 This list is going to wind up being totally awesome bro!! Thanks for getting this started. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Here's my ratings Russian. SUPER-DROL CLONES--CEL M-Drol: 9 out of 10. GAT Methyl Depot: 8 out of 10. PHERA-PLEX CLONES--EST Methyl-VOL: 8 out of 10. Juggernaut Phera-Bol: 7 out of 10. HALO-DROL CLONES--Fast Action Pharma H-Drol: 7 out of 10. EST Hemadrol: 8 out of 10. TRENADROL CLONES--ALRI Methoxy TRN: 9 out of 10 This list is going to wind up being totally awesome bro!! Thanks for getting this started. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Awesome man this is what we want!!!!
 
PLEASE CAN EVERYONE THINK OF ALL THE UNMETHYLATED PRO HORMONES THEY CAN, AND WE WILL ADD THEM TO THIS LIST

ex..propadrol, winztrol, etc, thanks guys...
 
russianstar said:
PLEASE CAN EVERYONE THINK OF ALL THE UNMETHYLATED PRO HORMONES THEY CAN, AND WE WILL ADD THEM TO THIS LIST

ex..propadrol, winztrol, etc, thanks guys...
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All of the Trenadrol clones are unmethylated also Russian. So is the Methoxy TST. We could also add 3-AD and MethylMasterdrol Version 2 in there as well! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Awesome keep them coming il update this list then later this week!!!!
 
Awesome guys keep these coming im bumping this back to the top!!!!
 
dethklok said:
That list from bb hijacked by russian has tmi for me. I like things simple...like this.

Superdrol:
- Oxodrol 12 by IDS
- M-Drol by CEL
- Methyl-VOL by EST
- S-Drol by Fast Action Pharma
- Methyl Depot by GAT
- MethaDROL by iForce
- StraightDROL by Black China Labs
- MethylDX3 by Physical Enhancing Industries
- Oxevol by Evolution Labs
- Dianevol by Evolution Labs
- Testadrol by DNA
- Methyl-Drol XT by SNS

Pheraplex:
- P-Plex by CEL
- Phera-VOL by EST
- D-Stianozol by Fast Action Pharma
- P-Max by Growth Labs
- Phera-Bol by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Phera-Mass Kilo Sports
- Straight Phlexed by Black China Labs
- Methyl-Plex by SNS

Halodrol:
- Halo-MASS by Anabolic Formulations
- H-Drol by CEL
- Hemadrol by EST
- Oral Turinadrol by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Super Halo by Black China Labs
- Halocore by Rockhard Formulations
- Halovar by Purus Labs
- Mega H by Generic Labz

Epistane:
- Epi-MAX by Anabolic Formulations
- Methyl-E by EST
- E-Max by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Epistane by IBE
- Hemaguno by Spectra Force Research
- Havoc by RPN
- Hemapolin by Starmark Labs
- Epi-Mass by Armour Nutrition
- Epidrol by Genera Labs
- Methyl Freak by Rockhard Formulations
- Epithin-E by Generic Labz

Products With 2 or More Compounds
- Superplexx by Pharma Resources
- Halo-T 400 by Anabolic Formulations
- Methyl-STAK by Anabolic Formulations
- MD1T by Fast Action Pharma
- Original HD by GXL
- Super Flex by Black China Labs
- Omnevol by Evolution Labs
- Sustevol by Evolution Labs
- Anevol by Evolution Labs
- Super Mass Caps by Amerceuticals
- Sostenol 250 by IDS
- Sostenol 250 by Webber
- Decabolen by CTD
- Hemogen B-52 by Pharma Resources

Other Fun Stuff:
- TrenaPLEX by Anabolic Formulations
- Furazadrol by Axis Labs
- Methyl XT by EST
- BOLD 200 by iForce
- Win-Ztrol by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Furaguno by Spectra Force Research
- Oxyguno by Spectra Force Research
- SuperTren MG by Black China Labs
- Jungle Warfare by ALRI
- 3AD by Anabolic Xtreme
- 11-OXO by ErgoPharm
- Revolt by Kilo Sports
- MegaZol by Generic Labz
- Methoxy TRN by ALRI


but it could be just me.
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VERY nice dethklok! Nice and concise dude!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
dethklok said:
That list from bb hijacked by russian has tmi for me. I like things simple...like this.

Superdrol:
- Oxodrol 12 by IDS
- M-Drol by CEL
- Methyl-VOL by EST
- S-Drol by Fast Action Pharma
- Methyl Depot by GAT
- MethaDROL by iForce
- StraightDROL by Black China Labs
- MethylDX3 by Physical Enhancing Industries
- Oxevol by Evolution Labs
- Dianevol by Evolution Labs
- Testadrol by DNA
- Methyl-Drol XT by SNS

Pheraplex:
- P-Plex by CEL
- Phera-VOL by EST
- D-Stianozol by Fast Action Pharma
- P-Max by Growth Labs
- Phera-Bol by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Phera-Mass Kilo Sports
- Straight Phlexed by Black China Labs
- Methyl-Plex by SNS

Halodrol:
- Halo-MASS by Anabolic Formulations
- H-Drol by CEL
- Hemadrol by EST
- Oral Turinadrol by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Super Halo by Black China Labs
- Halocore by Rockhard Formulations
- Halovar by Purus Labs
- Mega H by Generic Labz

Epistane:
- Epi-MAX by Anabolic Formulations
- Methyl-E by EST
- E-Max by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Epistane by IBE
- Hemaguno by Spectra Force Research
- Havoc by RPN
- Hemapolin by Starmark Labs
- Epi-Mass by Armour Nutrition
- Epidrol by Genera Labs
- Methyl Freak by Rockhard Formulations
- Epithin-E by Generic Labz

Products With 2 or More Compounds
- Superplexx by Pharma Resources
- Halo-T 400 by Anabolic Formulations
- Methyl-STAK by Anabolic Formulations
- MD1T by Fast Action Pharma
- Original HD by GXL
- Super Flex by Black China Labs
- Omnevol by Evolution Labs
- Sustevol by Evolution Labs
- Anevol by Evolution Labs
- Super Mass Caps by Amerceuticals
- Sostenol 250 by IDS
- Sostenol 250 by Webber
- Decabolen by CTD
- Hemogen B-52 by Pharma Resources

Other Fun Stuff:
- TrenaPLEX by Anabolic Formulations
- Furazadrol by Axis Labs
- Methyl XT by EST
- BOLD 200 by iForce
- Win-Ztrol by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Furaguno by Spectra Force Research
- Oxyguno by Spectra Force Research
- SuperTren MG by Black China Labs
- Jungle Warfare by ALRI
- 3AD by Anabolic Xtreme
- 11-OXO by ErgoPharm
- Revolt by Kilo Sports
- MegaZol by Generic Labz
- Methoxy TRN by ALRI


but it could be just me.
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Good list. Good work.
 
dethklok said:
That list from bb hijacked by russian has tmi for me. I like things simple...like this.

Superdrol:
- Oxodrol 12 by IDS
- M-Drol by CEL
- Methyl-VOL by EST
- S-Drol by Fast Action Pharma
- Methyl Depot by GAT
- MethaDROL by iForce
- StraightDROL by Black China Labs
- MethylDX3 by Physical Enhancing Industries
- Oxevol by Evolution Labs
- Dianevol by Evolution Labs
- Testadrol by DNA
- Methyl-Drol XT by SNS

Pheraplex:
- P-Plex by CEL
- Phera-VOL by EST
- D-Stianozol by Fast Action Pharma
- P-Max by Growth Labs
- Phera-Bol by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Phera-Mass Kilo Sports
- Straight Phlexed by Black China Labs
- Methyl-Plex by SNS

Halodrol:
- Halo-MASS by Anabolic Formulations
- H-Drol by CEL
- Hemadrol by EST
- Oral Turinadrol by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Super Halo by Black China Labs
- Halocore by Rockhard Formulations
- Halovar by Purus Labs
- Mega H by Generic Labz

Epistane:
- Epi-MAX by Anabolic Formulations
- Methyl-E by EST
- E-Max by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Epistane by IBE
- Hemaguno by Spectra Force Research
- Havoc by RPN
- Hemapolin by Starmark Labs
- Epi-Mass by Armour Nutrition
- Epidrol by Genera Labs
- Methyl Freak by Rockhard Formulations
- Epithin-E by Generic Labz

Products With 2 or More Compounds
- Superplexx by Pharma Resources
- Halo-T 400 by Anabolic Formulations
- Methyl-STAK by Anabolic Formulations
- MD1T by Fast Action Pharma
- Original HD by GXL
- Super Flex by Black China Labs
- Omnevol by Evolution Labs
- Sustevol by Evolution Labs
- Anevol by Evolution Labs
- Super Mass Caps by Amerceuticals
- Sostenol 250 by IDS
- Sostenol 250 by Webber
- Decabolen by CTD
- Hemogen B-52 by Pharma Resources

Other Fun Stuff:
- TrenaPLEX by Anabolic Formulations
- Furazadrol by Axis Labs
- Methyl XT by EST
- BOLD 200 by iForce
- Win-Ztrol by Juggernaut Nutrition
- Furaguno by Spectra Force Research
- Oxyguno by Spectra Force Research
- SuperTren MG by Black China Labs
- Jungle Warfare by ALRI
- 3AD by Anabolic Xtreme
- 11-OXO by ErgoPharm
- Revolt by Kilo Sports
- MegaZol by Generic Labz
- Methoxy TRN by ALRI


but it could be just me.
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Thats a good list you should post it, now ive given you the info, you can make it better
 
BTW Superdrol based products don't convert to Masteron. It's an active steroid of its own that has properties closer to Anadrol, which it's made from.
 
Another product not mentioned for phera plex is Pheradrol by Ph. Design hope this helps for adding to the list
 
MizXXL said:
Another product not mentioned for phera plex is Pheradrol by Ph. Design hope this helps for adding to the list
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I think maybe his list are ones being sold still. They stopped making Pheradrol last year. Great clone though from what I hear - exact duplicate of the original Pheraplex.
 
Ziquor said:
BTW Superdrol based products don't convert to Masteron. It's an active steroid of its own that has properties closer to Anadrol, which it's made from.
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UUUUUMMMMMM no
 
It is active. The name was more of a marketing scheme as 'Superdrol' is short for 'Super-Anadrol.' It is the methylated version of Masteron (adding 17aa) and originated back in the 1960s. It was never produced for commercial use until 2005.
 
Cub said:
It is active. The name was more of a marketing scheme as 'Superdrol' is short for 'Super-Anadrol.' It is the methylated version of Masteron (adding 17aa) and originated back in the 1960s. It was never produced for commercial use until 2005.
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Thanks for clarifying that!!! a rep
 
russianstar said:
Thanks for clarifying that!!! a rep
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Right on Cubbie - Super(Ana)drol. From Designer Supplements who originally created it:


Superdrol (methasteron) is definitely not a prohormone: it is a very active form of a designer supplement. Superdrol gets its name from the fact that it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3...
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When you take a steroid and add a Methyl at the 17th position (hence 17a-methyl) it changes the steroid completely. Take their q factor or anabolic to androgenic (A:A) ratios:


Masteron has an A:A ratio of 62:25

Anadrol has an A:A ratio of 320:45

Superdrol has an A:A ratio of: 400:20
 
I always found it interesting how the slightest changest to any drugs chemical structure COMPLETELY creates a brand new substance.
 
Ziquor said:
Right on Cubbie - Super(Ana)drol. From Designer Supplements who originally created it:





When you take a steroid and add a Methyl at the 17th position (hence 17a-methyl) it changes the steroid completely. Take their q factor or anabolic to androgenic (A:A) ratios:


Masteron has an A:A ratio of 62:25

Anadrol has an A:A ratio of 320:45

Superdrol has an A:A ratio of: 400:20
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Hey Ziquor, Can you point me to a list of A:A ratios for more compounds? I'd like to know the anabolic to androgenic ratios for everything I can find. Phera, Super, Halo, Epi, Tren, Anavar, Proviron, D-Bol,......everything! Actually, if you can post the link here, it would be a great addition to this log. Everyone can find the PH/PS they're currently using in this thread, and also they could find the A:A ratio here in the same place. A stellar idea! Thanks! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Hey Ziquor, Can you point me to a list of A:A ratios for more compounds? I'd like to know the anabolic to androgenic ratios for everything I can find. Phera, Super, Halo, Epi, Tren, Anavar, Proviron, D-Bol,......everything! Actually, if you can post the link here, it would be a great addition to this log. Everyone can find the PH/PS they're currently using in this thread, and also they could find the A:A ratio here in the same place. A stellar idea! Thanks! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Ok Thunder - here's everything I compiled from Vida posts, original manufacture claims, etc. The Q ratio many mfg claims list is the anabolic divided by androgenic. Also to any newbs - this is just a reference. Remember some substances don't have an extremely high androgenic# but they may bind to the androgen receptor much more stongly (aka Masteron). Plus with A:A's you can't tell the progestinal activity - and so on, blah blah blah:




-----------------------------Androgenic#----------Anabolic#

1-Testosterone----------------------100------200

11-OXO---------------------------------------50-----70

Anabolicum Vister(Quinbolone)(oral Boldenone)--50------100

Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)-------------------45------320

Anadur(Nandrolone Hexyloxyphenylpropionate)--37-----125

Anatrofin(Stenbolone Acetate)---------107-144-----267-332

Anavar(Oxandrolone)-------------------24------322-630

Andractim(Dihydrotestosterone)--------30-260-----60-220

Andriol(Testosterone Undecanoate)------100------100

Androderm(Testosterone)---------------100------100

Androgel(Testosterone)------------------100------100

Boldabol(Boldenone Acetate)------------50------100

Cheque Drops(Mibolerone)--------------1,800------4,100

Danocrine(Danazol)----------------------37------125

Deca-Durabolin(Nandrolone Decanoate)----37------125

Deposterona(Testosterone Blend)---------100------100

Dianabol(Methandrostenolone)-----------40-60------90-210

Dimethyltrienolone------------------------10,000+-----10,000+

Dinandrol(Nandrolone Blend)---------------37------125

Durabolin(NPP)----------------------------37------125

Dynabol(Nandrolone Cypionate)-----------37------125

Epistane/Havoc--------------------------91------1,100

Equipoise(Boldenone Undecylenate)-------50------100

Esiclene(Formebolone)-------------------No Data Available

Genabol(Norbolethone)-------------------17------350

Halodrol-----------------------------------28------74

Halotestin(Fluoxymesterone)-------------850------1,900

Hydroxytestosterone---------------------25------65

Laurabolin(Nandrolone Laurate)-----------37------125

Masteron(Drostanolone Propionate)-------25-40------62-130

Megagrisevit-Mono(Clostebol Acetate)------25------46

MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)-------650------2,300

Mestanolone--------------------------------78-254------107

Methandriol(Mythelandrostenediol)----------30-60------20-60

Methyl-1-Testosterone---------------------100-220------910-1,600

Methyldienolone----------------------------200-300------1,000

Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN)------------281------1304

Methyltestosterone-------------------------94-130------115-150

Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000

Miotolan(Furazabol)-------------------------73-94------270-330

Myagen(Bolasterone)------------------------300------575

Nilevar(Norethandrolone)--------------------22-55------100-200

Omnadren(Testosterone Blend)--------------100------100

Orabolin(Ethylestrenol)-----------------------20-400------200-400

Oral Turinabol--------------------------------13------111

Oranabol(Oxymesterone)----------------------50------330

Orgasteron(Normethandrolone)----------------325-580------110-125

Parabolan(Tren Hexahydrobenzycarbonate)----500------500

Pheraplex (aka pure DMT - Madol)------------187------1,200

Promagnon-25--------------------------------50-----55

Primobolan(Methenolone Acetate)-------------44-57------88

Primobolan Depot(Methenolone Enanthate)-----44-57------88

Prostanozol------------------------------------n/a------n/a

Protabol(Thiomesterone)--------------------61------456

Proviron(Mesterolone)-----------------------30-40------100-150

Sanabolicum(Nandrolone Cyclohexylpropionate)-37------125

Steranabol Ritardo(Oxabolone Cypionate)--20-60------50-90

Superdrol----------------------------------20------400

Sustanon 100 & 250--------------------------100------100

Synovex(Testosterone Propionate & Estradiol)-100------100

Test 400---------------------------------------100------100

Test Enanthate/Cypionate/Propionate/Susp & Blends-100------100

THG(Tetrahydrogestrinone)-------------------No Data Available

Tren Acetate/Enanthate & Blends------------500------500

Winstrol(Stanozolol)---------------------------30------320
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I appreciate that Ziquor, but I'm afraid you've confused me and I believe it may confuse some readers with out some clarification. On most A:A ratio lists (q rating) I see the Anabolic end listed first and the Androgenic listed last. This can't be the way you have it listed, for you have Superdrol as 40:400 and this has to Androgenic:Anabolic. I've never seen a q-rating listed backwards like this. Is this complete list backwards like this? Is the Androgenic rating listed first and then the Anabolic rating. I just want to make sure our readers are clear on this. I find the A:A ratios very important to helping me come up with new stacks. Thanks! THE THUNDERGOD
 
thundergod said:
I appreciate that Ziquor, but I'm afraid you've confused me and I believe it may confuse some readers with out some clarification. On most A:A ratio lists (q rating) I see the Anabolic end listed first and the Androgenic listed last. This can't be the way you have it listed, for you have Superdrol as 40:400 and this has to Androgenic:Anabolic. I've never seen a q-rating listed backwards like this. Is this complete list backwards like this? Is the Androgenic rating listed first and then the Anabolic rating. I just want to make sure our readers are clear on this. I find the A:A ratios very important to helping me come up with new stacks. Thanks! THE THUNDERGOD
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**** yeah sorry I didn't even realize the usual 'norm' for most listing is the other way around. They're all listed with androgenic# being 1st and anabolic 2nd. It's not the most 'neat' list as I thought about cleaning it up and putting it in Excel like my OTC charts but I haven't had the time. I edited the original post to reflect - thanks for the heads up!
 
Ziquor said:
**** yeah sorry I didn't even realize the usual 'norm' for most listing is the other way around. They're all listed with androgenic# being 1st and anabolic 2nd. It's not the most 'neat' list as I thought about cleaning it up and putting it in Excel like my OTC charts but I haven't had the time. I edited the original post to reflect - thanks for the heads up!
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That list is the bomb bro!!!! thanks so much, great idea thunder, and a great post ziquor!!! I cant thank you enough!!!
 
russianstar said:
That list is the bomb bro!!!! thanks so much, great idea thunder, and a great post ziquor!!! I cant thank you enough!!!
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No prob. The list is mainly reference material. It's strange how many hormones look amazing on paper but just don't produce in the real world.
 
Ziquor said:
**** yeah sorry I didn't even realize the usual 'norm' for most listing is the other way around. They're all listed with androgenic# being 1st and anabolic 2nd. It's not the most 'neat' list as I thought about cleaning it up and putting it in Excel like my OTC charts but I haven't had the time. I edited the original post to reflect - thanks for the heads up!
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No problem bro! I really appreciate your work on this. Where did you find such a complete list? I wasn't meaning to be picky, nor to complain. It's just that most lists have it Androgenic first and Anabolic second. Just trying to keep it simple for our readers! Great work and reps to you!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
milwood said:
Jeez.... I knew Cheque Drops were off the chart, but what's up with dimethyltrienolone???
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HA HA I was thinking the same thing Milwood. You'd only need 5 mg. of that sh*t per day, wouldn't you? That's amazing. I know that this list is not carved in stone either. What seems to compute in vivo, does not always pan out in vida! It's still a great reference list! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
No problem bro! I really appreciate your work on this. Where did you find such a complete list? I wasn't meaning to be picky, nor to complain. It's just that most lists have it Androgenic first and Anabolic second. Just trying to keep it simple for our readers! Great work and reps to you!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Happy to be of assistance. And to think my high school guidance counselor said I'd never amount to anything... I actually found a partial list on another site and I just pieced together and added others along with PH/PS's as I went. Some of the PH/PS's I had to dig pretty deep and due some cross referencing.
 
milwood said:
Jeez.... I knew Cheque Drops were off the chart, but what's up with dimethyltrienolone???
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Yeah it's crazy. I guess they take methylated tren, and if that's not crazy enough, they add an addition methyl complex at the 7-carbon position which takes it off the charts. As an oral I hear it's by far the most hepatoxic, nasty hormone period.
 
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