Need peptide guidance to balance gyno

[Newbie40plus]

I have a bad case of gyno and would like to spot inject my chest to increase the rate of development of my chest muscles relative to the rest of my body to increase a masculine physicque (i.e. increase overall chest muscularity, upper chest and inner chest to offset my girly boobs) but don't know hardly anything about peptides at this point.

I"m very new to weight lifting, before learning of peptides my plan was to go a few years natural and then consider a steroid cycle. After learning of the ability to spot grow one or more muscle groups this sounds like a Godsend given this gyno that is embarassing and psychologically problematic. I'd like to speed up the rate of chest development relative to other the rest of my body.

Cost is a concern so if I could get recommendations as to what substance(s) to consider using that would be very helpful. I'm looking to play it safe and am quite concered about avoiding intestinal growth as I am just interested in developing my body, not getting really huge at any point.

Please help, I have tits and am desperate

 

[CryingEmo]

This is a tough one...

I don't think peptides will help much with your gyno.


AAS can help with gyno or make it worse, so that could also be a slippery slope. I have seen cases where epistane reduces or almost eliminates gyno.

Surgery is the only sure way. Other than that, you could try a cutting diet with some epistane and HGH. Inject HGH subQ into the tissue for possible spot reduction.

 

[babyblu]

Yes first order of biz is reducing your BF%. That takes care of most gyno. Start using B-6 too. Then once u cut down ur bf%, IF you still have gyno then look towards chemical assistance.

bb

 

[Newbie40plus]

Yes first order of biz is reducing your BF%. That takes care of most gyno. Start using B-6 too. Then once u cut down ur bf%, IF you still have gyno then look towards chemical assistance.

bb

I am 6'2" and currently weigh 250lbs with a high bf. However, several years ago I weighed 180lbs. when I was using a lot of coke, about 25-30 lbs. UNDERWEIGHT for my ideal weight and I had gyno then too. Not only that but it looked A LOT WORSE because I looked like some anorexic dude with tits lol

I know it is gyno and know that surgery is the recommended treatment. I don't want to spend 5k for it though, and frankly can not afford to do so either. Not to mention that I don't want big scars across my chest when they find it necessary to hack off flappy saggy old lady tit skin when they lipo me and cut out the breast tissue because I would just look completely ridiculous if all the fat was removed and the hard tissue was all cut out. This has been there for too many years and I def will have mad saggy skin. That's not an option.

I'm not looking to spot reduce the gyno, I'm looking to increase the development of my chest muscles so the gyno does not look as bad. I think that using peptides to inject in my chest muscles post workout I will be able to increase my chest muscle development at a rate faster than I could with weights/nutrition/rest alone. I'd rather have a full muscular chest along with a case of gyno than have a non muscular chest with a case of gyno. I think peptides can get me there quicker.

But I don't know much about peptides. I'm reading what I can find to educate myself but am looking for suggestions and guidance from others who are familiar with peptides. My main concern at this point is avoiding intestine growth that I have read about. I would rather avoid peptides that grow my intestines.

So are some peptides better than others? Which are the best for local growth that do not spread through the body? Do you need PCT? That will get me started. I'll figure out the dosing and proper usage after that.

Thanks. Gyno sucks bad.

 

[hullcrush]

Yes, growth factors

Ok, you want to use growth factors to reduce gyno because you believe it to be cleaner than AAS? Performance enhancement is just that: anything from whey to anadrol.

A month trial of a SERM and AI combination would be a better bet than random peptides. HGH is a dangerous game to be playing with gynecomastia, especially when injected in the area, due to its similarities to prolactin. I believe IGF-Lr3 would game you the same problems, albeit less intensified.

 

[CryingEmo]

I am 6'2" and currently weigh 250lbs with a high bf. However, several years ago I weighed 180lbs. when I was using a lot of coke, about 25-30 lbs. UNDERWEIGHT for my ideal weight and I had gyno then too. Not only that but it looked A LOT WORSE because I looked like some anorexic dude with tits lol

I know it is gyno and know that surgery is the recommended treatment. I don't want to spend 5k for it though, and frankly can not afford to do so either. Not to mention that I don't want big scars across my chest when they find it necessary to hack off flappy saggy old lady tit skin when they lipo me and cut out the breast tissue because I would just look completely ridiculous if all the fat was removed and the hard tissue was all cut out. This has been there for too many years and I def will have mad saggy skin. That's not an option.

I'm not looking to spot reduce the gyno, I'm looking to increase the development of my chest muscles so the gyno does not look as bad. I think that using peptides to inject in my chest muscles post workout I will be able to increase my chest muscle development at a rate faster than I could with weights/nutrition/rest alone. I'd rather have a full muscular chest along with a case of gyno than have a non muscular chest with a case of gyno. I think peptides can get me there quicker.

But I don't know much about peptides. I'm reading what I can find to educate myself but am looking for suggestions and guidance from others who are familiar with peptides. My main concern at this point is avoiding intestine growth that I have read about. I would rather avoid peptides that grow my intestines.

So are some peptides better than others? Which are the best for local growth that do not spread through the body? Do you need PCT? That will get me started. I'll figure out the dosing and proper usage after that.

Thanks. Gyno sucks bad.

You need to diet down as far as possible before you can know what need to be done about gyno.


I would seek diet help first, get down to at least 15% bf and then start making your decsion.

It comes down to how much you care. DO you have enough discipline to diet down? And finally, if surgery is the only option at that point, do you care enough to have it done?


To get rid of gyno without surgery, you may want to look at epistane / havoc. There are many threads on here where people have posted before and after pictures and it very visibly reduced gyno. This in conjuction with diet and an AI maybe allow you to beat it without surgery, but it also may not.

 

[jminis]

The fact is you need to get your bf in the low teens or sub 12%. You can't come to any conclusions based on your weight when you were all coked up. When you lose weight that way your bodyweight consists of fat, bone, water. Your body is in a severely catabolic state hence making the gyno condition worse.

What you need to do:
Clean diet, hit the weights hard get sub 12% the right way while adding muscle. I will bet big money that your gyno issue will fade away.

Products I would use for the frist 6 months:
Protein, Anabolic Pump, Creatine Mono, Recreate
Next 6 months:
Protein, AP, Creatine, Test booster like Diesel test hardcore or the like. Possibly after 12 months epistane cycle if gyno is still an issue.

Your good to go now get to work.

 

[pumbertot]

exemestane has gotten rid of my gyno, albeit very little that i had which was only noticeable to me around my left nipple and this happened in only 3 weeks.

btw surgery will not leave scars nor will they hack out anything. if you ask they will cut around the nipple itself and the gyno comes out as one large round lump. i know 3 guys that had it removed and you can not see scars as they are on the outside of the nipple line.

 

[Newbie40plus]

Ok, you want to use growth factors to reduce gyno because you believe it to be cleaner than AAS? Performance enhancement is just that: anything from whey to anadrol.

A month trial of a SERM and AI combination would be a better bet than random peptides. HGH is a dangerous game to be playing with gynecomastia, especially when injected in the area, due to its similarities to prolactin. I believe IGF-Lr3 would game you the same problems, albeit less intensified.

OK, thanks. I will try this. I had been under the impression that if you had gyno for like 20 years a drug was not going to get rid of it.

 

[Newbie40plus]

The fact is you need to get your bf in the low teens or sub 12%. You can't come to any conclusions based on your weight when you were all coked up. When you lose weight that way your bodyweight consists of fat, bone, water. Your body is in a severely catabolic state hence making the gyno condition worse.

What you need to do:
Clean diet, hit the weights hard get sub 12% the right way while adding muscle. I will bet big money that your gyno issue will fade away.

Products I would use for the frist 6 months:
Protein, Anabolic Pump, Creatine Mono, Recreate
Next 6 months:
Protein, AP, Creatine, Test booster like Diesel test hardcore or the like. Possibly after 12 months epistane cycle if gyno is still an issue.

Your good to go now get to work.

Thanks for the direction on what I need to do. I'll check out anabolic pump and recreate as I am not using those. In Jan I was at 295lbs. I'm 250 now. I have been in the 255-248 range for the past couple months while bf continues to decrease and muscle increases.

 

[jminis]

Sounds good, I would get your bf around 12% while adding LBM and then take a good look at where your at and make some decisions. Best of luck on your venture.