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Havoc vs. 3-AD...

I think it's too early to tell. We need to wait a couple months to see what the feedback is like with 3AD. On paper I think Havoc may be more potent in all categories.
 
why vs? why not AND?
 
I plan on stacking EPI and 3-AD - late fall
 
The most notable is Havoc is methylated and 3-AD is not. Ive seen a lot of people mention wanting to stack 3-AD and Havoc or 3-AD and Epi.

Still 5 weeks from my 3-AD cycle so...
 
milwood said:
3AD and Havoc or Epi sounds GOOD! Anyone think of reasons NOT to stack these?
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As opposed to just using 3AD singularly? Obviously cost and SERM for PCT would be two factors. I also don't know if gains would be drmatically better than if you ran two seperate cycles. But you could certainly stack them from all appearances. It'll be interesting to see the results from the stack as compared to the standalone.
 
why does everyone feel the need to stack everything..lol.seems like a waste, could be 2 decent cycles instead.
 
john123131 said:
why does everyone feel the need to stack everything..lol.seems like a waste, could be 2 decent cycles instead.
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yeah, truthfully stacking frightens me a tad. i get a bit nervous just using a stand-alone, due to possible problems we all know can occur.
 
Manimalia said:
yeah, truthfully stacking frightens me a tad. i get a bit nervous just using a stand-alone, due to possible problems we all know can occur.
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no doubt, most people dont realize the majority of PH users lose alot of their gains, when they could just as easily change their diet and training and gain some mass. I also say that cause most people using prohormones have no need to use them (havent even come close to reaching a plateau).

I tried Phera last year, had good results, but will probly never use anything again because I have had similar results naturally within the past 6 months of training, playing with diet, etc....with no worries of gyno, shutdown, etc.
 
john123131 said:
no doubt, most people dont realize the majority of PH users lose alot of their gains, when they could just as easily change their diet and training and gain some mass. I also say that cause most people using prohormones have no need to use them (havent even come close to reaching a plateau).

I tried Phera last year, had good results, but will probly never use anything again because I have had similar results naturally within the past 6 months of training, playing with diet, etc....with no worries of gyno, shutdown, etc.
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totally agree with what you said. By reading the simple feedback all the time, such as " gain 5lbs," or " amazing 15lbs", I doubt how much the "gain" will finally last after half year finishing the PCT and how much is lean tissue. Prohormone should not be considered a shortcut for a idea body without proper training and diet.
 
john123131 said:
why does everyone feel the need to stack everything..lol.seems like a waste, could be 2 decent cycles instead.
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I'm wondering if they are like that with everything. If they get a headache, do they stack Tylenol, aspirin and ibuprofen to take care of it? Do they stack coffee and tea every morning to get their motor running?
 
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