Say what you want about placebo, but I've taken a ton of different trib products that did absolutely nothing for me. I've also taken products that were absolutely nuts.
Alpha Male is a good example, it took quite some time, end of first bottle/start of second, for me. Oily skin, aggression, and just a general 'great' feeling all the time. While it could be the forskolin in there that attributed to the 'good' feeling, I don't think so. It did not make me 'horny', but I just felt on top of the world, better than any one in the room, a true alpha male feeling. When I noticed it, it was sort of an 'epiphany' as I had sort of forgotten about taking it, that was the only thing I could attribute it to, I wasn't on anything other than my typical supps.
As far as DTHC, I truly felt the urge to start f*cking any female withing 3-4 days. I mean, it was almost animalistic type urges... I don't think my libido was that high even while 17-20.
I didn't have the 'feel good' feelings of Alpha Male, but my skin got oily, facial hair grew faster/thicker, some new body hair growth on my back, I got very musky smelling and apparently very aggressive, not angry aggressive, just outspoken and forceful.
When I stopped taking it, I literally felt the urgent need to f*ck everything leave me within a day or two. Still had great libido, but it was no where near the levels that it was while 'on' it.
I've picked up 2 more bottles of DTHC to run in PCT shortly and am really looking forward to it again. If you have not tried either of these products, give them a go before you knock them.
Not all Trib products are created equal.