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how many years natural before AAS??

How long did you wait before ASS

  • 1-2 yrs

    Votes: 56 22.9%

  • 3-4 yrs

    Votes: 82 33.5%

  • 5-6 yrs

    Votes: 57 23.3%

  • 7-8yrs

    Votes: 11 4.5%

  • 9-10 yrs

    Votes: 11 4.5%

  • 10+

    Votes: 28 11.4%
  • Total voters
    245
CHAPS said:
Need2Banabolic you don't need steroids you just need food ya your 30 but your also 180lbs at 6'1, you could EASILY pack on tons of size naturally just from food and supplements. And Test/Tren/Deca/D-bol for a first cycle? I hope you realize that you coulda put on a good 20lbs from 500mg of Test E ALONE with the proper diet. You trying to fill in your nutritional gaps with more and more gear, you don't NEED 800mg of Test E for your second cycle especially at 190lbs and only what 1 year of training under your belt? I'm propably coming off as an ******* but that's ok because i don't wanna bull**** you, you have no business being on gear, period. Train naturally for a good 6+ years, learn your body, eat right and you could be a natural 240+ without gear, then if you still want more size do a cycle.
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you patronizing idiot, don't you realize that in 6 years time he's gonna be 36. He's quite clearly got the size to do it so instead of waiting until he's over the hill, he might as well do cycles instead of looking back at what could of become of his training, his hormones will be on the decline by then.
 
size said:
I do not think there is any right or wrong answer. In my opinion, one should have a comprehensive understanding of one's body, nutrition, and the drugs before ever making that step. Reaching this level of comprehension is obviously going to take time be it 2 years or 15 years as each individual learns at different rates. Also, I believe that one should set limits on what one expects and what one's objectives are. As I have written before, anabolic steroids can be a slippery slope that can lead to a level of dependency.
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i cant believe 22 of you said 10+ years. wow.:fool2:
 
I lifted for two years and had to take it VERY slow for almost another year...picked it back up and trained hard and naturally for another year but started inducing ph/ps to get me back to where I was...sad but true...:whiner:
 
CHAPS said:
If i had of known how effective some of these natural supplements are now i would have waited longer and used ALRI, DS and USP stuff.
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What is ALRI, DS and USP? Don't you guys wish you could have been jacked in your early twenties though instead of being jacked while your going bald and have kids running around. It seems like to me I'd rather get huge when I can still have fun before I'm 50 like some of you guys who wait 10+ years. I don't run any gear yet but just wanted to get the general consensus on this. I'm 6'1'' 215 have been training all throughout HS (for football) and all natural up to this point. Man is it tempting to put on that extra mass with some test or Epi! Carpe Diem?:djparty:
 
CHAPS said:
Need2Banabolic you don't need steroids you just need food ya your 30 but your also 180lbs at 6'1, you could EASILY pack on tons of size naturally just from food and supplements. And Test/Tren/Deca/D-bol for a first cycle? I hope you realize that you coulda put on a good 20lbs from 500mg of Test E ALONE with the proper diet. You trying to fill in your nutritional gaps with more and more gear, you don't NEED 800mg of Test E for your second cycle especially at 190lbs and only what 1 year of training under your belt? I'm propably coming off as an ******* but that's ok because i don't wanna bull**** you, you have no business being on gear, period. Train naturally for a good 6+ years, learn your body, eat right and you could be a natural 240+ without gear, then if you still want more size do a cycle.
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At 30 its gonna be hard for him to pack on too much lean mass. He's pretty much reached his natural potential and his test levels are probably on the decline. If he's done his homework there should be no problems with him using AAS. The poll shouldn't be how many years should you wait but at what age should you consider using AAS and I would say at a minimum of 25. With your post it would be ok do AAS at 20 if you had trained since you were 14 and thats far from the truth.
 
magRT496 said:
Started lifting when i was 14, ran my first cycle of deca when i was 18. I did a small amount of research, ran a cc a week for 10 weeks and did good pct with hcg and clomid. My diet sucked but i trained hard as hell. I gained 10lbs but lost about 5. In hindsight(sp?) i probably should have waited a little longer but i cant say i regret doing it.

I chose deca because it was the only thing readily available other than test. i thought test was too dangerous so deca was it.

I knew a guy once who was about 8% body fat with 17 inch arms and was probably 200lbs at 6'. He told me he was taking deca tablets :toofunny:
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This is a disturbing post and a major reason AAS is illegal to begin with. You shouldn't be doing anything at 18 but deca only is plain dumb.
 
utvol said:
This is a disturbing post and a major reason AAS is illegal to begin with. You shouldn't be doing anything at 18 but deca only is plain dumb.
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Who cares theres always going to be those kids that do that stuff. Kids are getting drunk in junior high nowadays. I played football in HS and just found out 2 years later that half the kids were shooting up at home after practice. They are finally going to start drug testing which should help.

:nutkick:
 
tradersam said:
Who cares theres always going to be those kids that do that stuff. Kids are getting drunk in junior high nowadays. I played football in HS and just found out 2 years later that half the kids were shooting up at home after practice. They are finally going to start drug testing which should help.

:nutkick:
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Funny you mention this as I too found out few months ago that my HS school sports players were taking andro during the season...
 
maynehood171 said:
Funny you mention this as I too found out few months ago that my HS school sports players were taking andro during the season...
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I mean you kinda know its going on but not to the extent I found out about. Some people are willing to do whatever even for crappy HS football teams, and no scholarships at stake. Even kids who didn't play any sports were on test wtf. No wonder the big kids were always hurt, there tendons couldn't keep up with their mass....it all makes sense now :/ :eek:
 
tradersam said:
I mean you kinda know its going on but not to the extent I found out about. Some people are willing to do whatever even for crappy HS football teams, and no scholarships at stake. Even kids who didn't play any sports were on test wtf. No wonder the big kids were always hurt, there tendons couldn't keep up with their mass....it all makes sense now :/ :eek:
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Kind of like a kid in my highschool who was muscular as all hell for being in HS and needing both shoulders operated on...everyone suspected dosing...but could/would make sense
 
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