hman85
Well-known member
Hey man no flushing I would be glad to take them off your hands.
Mass Xodus - Test/EQ/IGF log
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Hey man no flushing I would be glad to take them off your hands.
pudzian2
Banned
yea. more power to those who prefer them. but they arent for me. too much mystery. not only are we not sure whats in the caps (underdosed or different than advertised maybe) but like you said. they are obscure compounds and who knows what they or their metabolites do/will do. im done with designers too.
pistonpump
Banned
what about oral steroids with clinical data etc. ex: dianabol, anadrol etc.?
pudzian2
Banned
yea I mean I want to stay away from designers....dbol etc are different. but im not a fan of orals.
pistonpump
Banned
Phera = DMT = Madol. has been around for a long time its a tried and true compound as well.
pudzian2
Banned
true. but it converts correct? madol was administered as the compound itself. I may be wrong
pistonpump
Banned
im not entirely sure if it converts to madol i thought it was madol....oh well.
pudzian2
Banned
doesnt matter either way. Im sure a few of them are direct compounds....but in general, designers are kind of sketchy. not to mention whether there is any impurity or "miscellaneous" ingredients in some products. of course this can be so for gear as well. hence why staying away from black market stuff is best....
Xodus
Well-known member
The 'tweaking' to make them slide through the loophole is what is freaky to me. It reminds me of when ecstasy first came out, then authorities banned that compound, then people with ~some~ chemistry skills tweaked it and released it, and again and again.
Not saying that some of the chemists that work for these supp companies have the equivalent of HS chemistry knowledge, but you read about some so called 'experts' (Anthony Roberts comes to mind or the idiot that was with Mass Quantities and went to Syntrax as the R&D guy) and you have to question/trust that what you are taking isn't going to f' you up in the long run.
Then with the Invalid Link Removed, the possible tren contamination of Epi, etc. If I go down the oral route again, it will be legit pharmaceutical, not a designer.
pistonpump
Banned
real pharm stuff is where its at. not this balkan or british dragon stuff either, im talking real pharm companies....organon, schering, jelfa, zambon etc.
i must agree however, orals are not that nice on health, which is the overall goal anyway. I guess you have to learn to be patient because thats all orals give you really, faster gains.
i must agree however, orals are not that nice on health, which is the overall goal anyway. I guess you have to learn to be patient because thats all orals give you really, faster gains.
pudzian2
Banned
yea i agree about sticking to real pharma companies. but for some compounds....balkan etc isnt too bad a bad way to go.
Xodus
Well-known member
Balkan IS a real pharma. Gov. registered even. Apparently they just use sh!tty raws or too much BA.
pudzian2
Banned
yea I thought so..... I havent had a problem with them I think they can be tainted by third parties etc. so gotta make sure the source is good
Xodus
Well-known member
Fvcking kick ass workout today.
Higher volume + limited rest between sets == INSANE PUMP Like skin ripping, vein bulging pump. God damn this is starting to feel good. I am looking forward to the next 2 months.
:aargh:
My mood is improving, appetite is increasing again, even 'the urge' is coming back. :woohoo:
I didn't have enough for a solo prop shot so I'll mix whats left in tomorrows inject.
Waist is ~ .5" - .75" smaller, weight holding steady @ 270. I had dipped down to ~263 for a few days when I just couldn't force down any food.
Higher volume + limited rest between sets == INSANE PUMP Like skin ripping, vein bulging pump. God damn this is starting to feel good. I am looking forward to the next 2 months.
:aargh:
My mood is improving, appetite is increasing again, even 'the urge' is coming back. :woohoo:
I didn't have enough for a solo prop shot so I'll mix whats left in tomorrows inject.
Waist is ~ .5" - .75" smaller, weight holding steady @ 270. I had dipped down to ~263 for a few days when I just couldn't force down any food.
Xodus
Well-known member
Spent Saturday looking for a new place to live. I hate moving, but its inevitable. I think I got a place in the sketchiest part of town.
Took a shot in the right glute, 300mg EQ, 300mg Test E and the remainder of the prop.
Today was another higher volume workout, 80% of my 5RM for 5 sets of 8. Everything felt great and weight will move up a bit next time around.
Went to watch the game with friends and ate a bunch of crap (chicken wings, beers, etc.)
Monday is a new day...
Took a shot in the right glute, 300mg EQ, 300mg Test E and the remainder of the prop.
Today was another higher volume workout, 80% of my 5RM for 5 sets of 8. Everything felt great and weight will move up a bit next time around.
Went to watch the game with friends and ate a bunch of crap (chicken wings, beers, etc.)
Monday is a new day...
pudzian2
Banned
wings+beer+testosterone=MAN.
Xodus
Well-known member
Got my IGF in yesterday. It is lypholized, but was packed in an ice pack. Being freeze-dried, I thought it was still stable for a period of time. On the bottle it states to store in the fridge. I have it in there right now, but I didn't think it was necessary until it was reconstituted? Even then, when recon'd with AA, it is still stable (but fragile) at room temp. for quite some time. No?
With the upcoming move and all, I'm going to be getting a secured 'gear box' and putting everything in there so there are no 'surprises' for anyone helping me move/unpack.
With the upcoming move and all, I'm going to be getting a secured 'gear box' and putting everything in there so there are no 'surprises' for anyone helping me move/unpack.
Xodus
Well-known member
:twisted:
I was looking a little bloated on Monday from my binge, today everything is back to normal.
Weight ~273
After dropping the 1,4AD, I'm feeling much better now.
hman85
Well-known member
Always a good idea, even if not moving. Try a box called Pelican boxes-real good stuff and it has a spot to put a lock.
Xodus
Well-known member
Yeah, normally I don't let anyone in my house so it's not an issue, not that I leave stuff just 'laying around'.
I've seen those Pelican cases online. High quality stuff. Do they sell them 'locally' or is it only online? Maybe a camera place?
If not, I guess a plain old tackle box would work for the time being.
Xodus
Well-known member
Man it has been a crazy week. In addition to moving at the end of the month, I decided 'hey, why not shake up my life further and look for a new job!'
I've spent the last week interviewing in person and on the phone. Got a few good solid things going and should know on one I am VERY interested in by friday. It will be a nice bump in compensation. :head:
I am addicted to chaos.
Diet has been so-so. Hungry, but not for 'clean' food. The thought of a chicken breast or steak just doesn't do it for me right now.
One night last week I could NOT get satiated. One meal alone was over 1900 cals clean and I could have continued my gorgefest.
But then today, I looked at M4 in my tupperware, decided I just couldn't do it, so I headed to BK and wolfed down a Dbl Whopper, 3 Dbl Cheeseburgers, King Size O-rings and 2 bottles of water. Um, yeah, not so clean 3000 cal meal... Worst part is I absolutely HATE fast food. Not sure why I was craving it, but it was pretty damn powerful.
I don't even want to see my total for today.
Shots are getting so where I don't even feel the needle enter anymore. It seems to flow a little faster than the prop mix did too, even without warming it. Just been mixing TE & EQ and rotating glutes. Training has been mixed, anxious to hit it, but today my strength/endurance were WAAAAY down.
Lethargy is still hanging around a little, but I've been overriding that fairly well.
I have noticed some increase in night sweats. I wake up and my pillow was absolutely drenched.
I've added in NP's Yohimbine caps. Started out slowly to assess and am doing ~20g in the am. Will up it to ~25g and see how I react. I've noticed some slight pressure in my head, not quite a headache, just pressure. Could be BP? Could be the Yohimbe.
I realize that Test E is long estered, but I'll be damned if I don't feel a 'boost' now an hour or so after each shot. Also seem to get some decent wood the next morning too. I assume that its just the 'cumulative' effect of it entering your system.
Slight delay on the Neovar beta, so I haven't started that yet.
Continuing to lean out in the mirror, looking forward to the coming weeks.
I've spent the last week interviewing in person and on the phone. Got a few good solid things going and should know on one I am VERY interested in by friday. It will be a nice bump in compensation. :head:
I am addicted to chaos.
Diet has been so-so. Hungry, but not for 'clean' food. The thought of a chicken breast or steak just doesn't do it for me right now.
One night last week I could NOT get satiated. One meal alone was over 1900 cals clean and I could have continued my gorgefest.
But then today, I looked at M4 in my tupperware, decided I just couldn't do it, so I headed to BK and wolfed down a Dbl Whopper, 3 Dbl Cheeseburgers, King Size O-rings and 2 bottles of water. Um, yeah, not so clean 3000 cal meal... Worst part is I absolutely HATE fast food. Not sure why I was craving it, but it was pretty damn powerful.
I don't even want to see my total for today.
Shots are getting so where I don't even feel the needle enter anymore. It seems to flow a little faster than the prop mix did too, even without warming it. Just been mixing TE & EQ and rotating glutes. Training has been mixed, anxious to hit it, but today my strength/endurance were WAAAAY down.
Lethargy is still hanging around a little, but I've been overriding that fairly well.
I have noticed some increase in night sweats. I wake up and my pillow was absolutely drenched.
I've added in NP's Yohimbine caps. Started out slowly to assess and am doing ~20g in the am. Will up it to ~25g and see how I react. I've noticed some slight pressure in my head, not quite a headache, just pressure. Could be BP? Could be the Yohimbe.
I realize that Test E is long estered, but I'll be damned if I don't feel a 'boost' now an hour or so after each shot. Also seem to get some decent wood the next morning too. I assume that its just the 'cumulative' effect of it entering your system.
Slight delay on the Neovar beta, so I haven't started that yet.
Continuing to lean out in the mirror, looking forward to the coming weeks.
sfearl1
Well-known member
i feel ya. i've been having those it seems eod this post cycle. i've given in a little here and there but not too much. but dammmmn, does a dbl whopper sound good right now!
hman85
Well-known member
I love me some Boston Market :food:mmmmm
Xodus
Well-known member
The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.
Definitely not dead, just a ton of stuff going on, some good, some not so good.
Xodus
Well-known member
I am glad I am not the only one!
Fvck it was hard. I don't even like that sh!t but seriously that is ALL I could think about.
pudzian2
Banned
I was barely hungry! I was eating 3-4 times per day max and it was all high calorie 'kinda junky' food. didnt make a difference physique wise though. (at least not a negative one). haha
Im sure you dont have anything ot worry about. just get those calories
Xodus
Well-known member
It was bulk from NP.
Still contemplating adding it back in now that the appetite has come back <in a bad way>.
dadream
Member
I bought 90grams of the bulk powder so I'm hoping this stuff is legit. If you add it back and the problems still arise then I think it's safe to say the stuff is no bueno which sucks big time as I wanted all the benefits of a faster acting blodenone without the 3-4 weeks it takes to "kick in" with the injectable version. You would think the 1,4ad would make your appetite go crazy like what is reported with EQ. I wish there was more feedback on the bulk powder.
Xodus
Well-known member
Strength has started to dip a little, ok a lot actually and I am not too happy about it. WTF is going on.
I think I am picking up whatever is going around, seems everyone is infected with something right now. I've even started to get a cold sore now. Might be from all of the stress I've got going on right now, job, girl, moving, etc. but I haven't had one in quite some time.
My weight has really been fluctuating, I was down to 263 just before my BK pig out a few days ago, I am now back ~267, yet still leaner. I think I've lost ~1" total around my waist so far. This cycle is doing exactly what I had hoped.
I know the 'body fat' scales are completely off and I don't go by that reading, but mine has been 'consistent'. I use calipers & tape to measure, but based solely on the impedance readings (same time of day, same hydration levels) I've watched it drop ~3% over the last 2 weeks, even now at roughly the same weight, it is lower. Validates what I have been seeing in the mirror.
Yohimbine caps have been pretty interesting. I'm running ~25g once, sometimes twice a day. The head pressure is gone, but I get slight trembling in my hands/fingers. I will hold it there until that subsides and bump up another 2.5-5g. I only have another 10 days or so of them left. I am also going to be changing my Aromasin/Nolva dosing. My nipples started to look like they were getting bigger, not the whole 'breast area', just nips. Maybe I got paranoid, but they were definitely getting 'sensitive' and always seemed to be 'hard' for no reason. Sensitivity may have been caused by always brushing on my clothes from being hard all the time.
I upped the Nolva immediately to 20mg/ED and it stopped all of that. They look normal again now. I will back down to 10mg/EOD . Aromasin I will do 10mg/E3D unless symptoms start to come back. MOJO has a BOGO for serms right now, might have to jump on that.
I've got a funny story from this past week that I want to share. Sort of goes back to that 'bigarexia' discussion.
I went out to see some live music on Tuesday night, just sitting at the bar, working on a smoking little blonde when some guy comes up to me and asks what I did for work, before I could answer, he says 'Do you just lift Volvo's or do you smash them too?' I told him I was in IT. He didn't want to believe me. He kept saying 'You are a big motherfvcker' and kept going on and on until I politely turned and went back to talking to the chic. Not sure what she thought of the whole thing, but she kept talking to me anyway. Now why the hell would you do that? I mean, I wouldn't go up to a short or fat person and go on and on like that.
Time to add some baggy hoodies to my wardrobe...
I think I am picking up whatever is going around, seems everyone is infected with something right now. I've even started to get a cold sore now. Might be from all of the stress I've got going on right now, job, girl, moving, etc. but I haven't had one in quite some time.
My weight has really been fluctuating, I was down to 263 just before my BK pig out a few days ago, I am now back ~267, yet still leaner. I think I've lost ~1" total around my waist so far. This cycle is doing exactly what I had hoped.
I know the 'body fat' scales are completely off and I don't go by that reading, but mine has been 'consistent'. I use calipers & tape to measure, but based solely on the impedance readings (same time of day, same hydration levels) I've watched it drop ~3% over the last 2 weeks, even now at roughly the same weight, it is lower. Validates what I have been seeing in the mirror.
Yohimbine caps have been pretty interesting. I'm running ~25g once, sometimes twice a day. The head pressure is gone, but I get slight trembling in my hands/fingers. I will hold it there until that subsides and bump up another 2.5-5g. I only have another 10 days or so of them left. I am also going to be changing my Aromasin/Nolva dosing. My nipples started to look like they were getting bigger, not the whole 'breast area', just nips. Maybe I got paranoid, but they were definitely getting 'sensitive' and always seemed to be 'hard' for no reason. Sensitivity may have been caused by always brushing on my clothes from being hard all the time.
I upped the Nolva immediately to 20mg/ED and it stopped all of that. They look normal again now. I will back down to 10mg/EOD . Aromasin I will do 10mg/E3D unless symptoms start to come back. MOJO has a BOGO for serms right now, might have to jump on that.
I've got a funny story from this past week that I want to share. Sort of goes back to that 'bigarexia' discussion.
I went out to see some live music on Tuesday night, just sitting at the bar, working on a smoking little blonde when some guy comes up to me and asks what I did for work, before I could answer, he says 'Do you just lift Volvo's or do you smash them too?' I told him I was in IT. He didn't want to believe me. He kept saying 'You are a big motherfvcker' and kept going on and on until I politely turned and went back to talking to the chic. Not sure what she thought of the whole thing, but she kept talking to me anyway. Now why the hell would you do that? I mean, I wouldn't go up to a short or fat person and go on and on like that.
Time to add some baggy hoodies to my wardrobe...
pudzian2
Banned
your plenty bigger than I and I still prefer the baggie hoodies and sport pants just becuase I dont like the general public's judgement of my physical appearance, and 2, tight shirts and showing off muscles are for when the masterpiece is complete! IMO
pistonpump
Banned
the masterpiece is never complete.
xodus is that the sexual aid yohimbine or the stim? i get them confused...im thinking himbine is the sexual aid because 25mg of the stim would be alot.
Xodus
Well-known member
Pretty sure its a little of both, just depends on the dosage. I'm taking it for the stim/fatloss.
What I had been reading about it, Yohimbine is pretty ineffective for fat loss at lower doses. Typically .1mg/kg for sexual aid and .2mg/kg for fatloss is the effective dosage. Caffeine may aid synergistically.
I think the nearer you get to 40mg dosages, is where some of sides come in, blurry vision, dizziness, nausea, headaches, etc.
Xodus
Well-known member
You got that right. I hate to admit this, but I am already thinking about cycle #2 for next winter...
sfearl1
Well-known member
i've got twice tonight during the kimbo slice fight, "dude, honestly, what are you on???" i am not a liar, and hate lying, "man, i ate two steaks for lunch. snack was to cans of tuna" i wasn't lying!
pudzian2
Banned
hahah yea people ask me sometimes and I just say that I eat alot. (which is true!)
Xodus
Well-known member
Xodus
Well-known member
Been busy as hell all week. Meals have been strange the last few days, more shakes than solid food due to packing everything up.
Workouts are so-so right now, just have a ton on my mind and that isn't helping anything.
Pretty sure I just nailed my second interview with a great place this morning and am expecting a call back, I know they want me.:head: One more on Monday with another company, then its decision time...
Breaking down my power rack today, so yesterday was my last WO until probably mon/tues when I can get it set back up. I think I will getting enough NEPA in though to keep me happy.
Definitely noticing my 'confidence' going UP. Esp. around women. :twisted: I hope this new one plays out well.
Really starting to get the alpha/aggressive feeling. No real sides to speak of, slightly greasy forehead, but no weird acne or bloat to speak of. Nips have calmed down so I am happy about the dose reduction of Nolva/Aromasin.
Going to be 'offline' for a few days and am going to go through some AM withdrawals I think.
Workouts are so-so right now, just have a ton on my mind and that isn't helping anything.
Pretty sure I just nailed my second interview with a great place this morning and am expecting a call back, I know they want me.:head: One more on Monday with another company, then its decision time...
Breaking down my power rack today, so yesterday was my last WO until probably mon/tues when I can get it set back up. I think I will getting enough NEPA in though to keep me happy.
Definitely noticing my 'confidence' going UP. Esp. around women. :twisted: I hope this new one plays out well.
Really starting to get the alpha/aggressive feeling. No real sides to speak of, slightly greasy forehead, but no weird acne or bloat to speak of. Nips have calmed down so I am happy about the dose reduction of Nolva/Aromasin.
Going to be 'offline' for a few days and am going to go through some AM withdrawals I think.
Xodus
Well-known member
pistonpump
Banned
how are you dosing the Nolva/Aromasin? are they generic or research chem or Rx?
Xodus
Well-known member
Research chem. Nolva EOD 10mg, aromasin 10mg E3D.
SupFatHead
Certified Travis
Whats you Prop blend look like? Painful or not?
Xodus
Well-known member
Prop was Balkan/Stealth. It was painful as $hit. Never again will I do that, looking into HG stuff now.
pistonpump
Banned
did it give results? I always speculated whether my stealth inj from alin were dosed correctly, they were so painful and it was test E. I was on 600mg EQ as well and i know that was legit, i just didnt see the gains i expected to with test that time. I just thought maybe the excessive BA is in there to cover up the amount of test they use. For some reason i still believe alin is behind balkan too....since BD went out.
Xodus
Well-known member
Can't say that it did or not, really. It hurt so f'ing bad that is all I know. Never again. Interesting hypothesis. You can't get real world info over on his board as its a bunch of nuthuggers and kids.
Alin IS Balkan. It is the same stuff, made in the same place, just different packaging.
SupFatHead
Certified Travis
Xodus I'm more curious what the blend was...perhaps that is why it was so painful. The prop was pry crashing but I have no idea what blend balkan/stealth uses. It usually says what oil and BA/BB% they use on the vial or satchel whichever it was.
Maybe it had too high of BA content. Was it 100mg/ml or higher?
I'm just curious as someone I know might be working on a lil home experiment.
Maybe it had too high of BA content. Was it 100mg/ml or higher?
I'm just curious as someone I know might be working on a lil home experiment.