"Reverse Keto Diet" w/ AP?

[snagency]

I was contemplating the value of incorporating a sort of "reverse keto" diet format in conjunction with Anabolic Pump for ramped up fat-loss, specifically for pre-contest dieting. Don't get me wrong - I love my AP & Slin; carbs are now my best friend (this coming from a former keto diehard). But I was thinking, in terms of pure fat loss, would it be beneficial to take one day a week (like an off-day from training), refrain from my AP/Slin stack & eliminate carbs for the day while also reducing total caloric intake (say 250-300 cal per meal), to increase metabolism?
I am not a physiological expert by any means, but there is no doubt that the body is an extraordinary adaptive mechanism. This best summarizes my own personal belief in training, which is why I change my routine up frequently to "shock" the muscles & keep them from adapting. Wouldn't the body's metabolism embrace the same change in dietary intake, and actually ramp up fat loss in this manner? I would think this format would increase leptin levels as well when you resume the normal diet. Is this theory flawed? Anybody got any thoughts?

 

[Guest]

I was contemplating the value of incorporating a sort of "reverse keto" diet format in conjunction with Anabolic Pump for ramped up fat-loss, specifically for pre-contest dieting. Don't get me wrong - I love my AP & Slin; carbs are now my best friend (this coming from a former keto diehard). But I was thinking, in terms of pure fat loss, would it be beneficial to take one day a week (like an off-day from training), refrain from my AP/Slin stack & eliminate carbs for the day while also reducing total caloric intake (say 250-300 cal per meal), to increase metabolism?
I am not a physiological expert by any means, but there is no doubt that the body is an extraordinary adaptive mechanism. This best summarizes my own personal belief in training, which is why I change my routine up frequently to "shock" the muscles & keep them from adapting. Wouldn't the body's metabolism embrace the same change in dietary intake, and actually ramp up fat loss in this manner? I would think this format would increase leptin levels as well when you resume the normal diet. Is this theory flawed? Anybody got any thoughts?

I would not do it.

Instead for 2-3 days, I would lower carbohydrate intake to 20grams per AP dose. I would dose 3 times a day. So 3 meals will have 20grams of carbs and the other meal will be just protein and fats/fiber.

On the third or 4th day, I would switch to 40 grams of carbohydrates per meal and repeat.

Anabolic Pump at around 20-40grams(depending on the person) forces lipolysis! Why is this important? Simple, the higher intake of carbohydrates that is shuttled directly to muscle cells fuels workout intensity and recovery. The harder you workout. The more calories burned. The faser you recover. The quicker you can workout again. All this while you force lipolysis and plus with the addition of recreate..hmm contest dieting just got easy..

 

[snagency]

I would not do it.

Instead for 2-3 days, I would lower carbohydrate intake to 20grams per AP dose. I would dose 3 times a day. So 3 meals will have 20grams of carbs and the other meal will be just protein and fats/fiber.

On the third or 4th day, I would switch to 40 grams of carbohydrates per meal and repeat.

Anabolic Pump at around 20-40grams(depending on the person) forces lipolysis! Why is this important? Simple, the higher intake of carbohydrates that is shuttled directly to muscle cells fuels workout intensity and recovery. The harder you workout. The more calories burned. The faser you recover. The quicker you can workout again. All this while you force lipolysis and plus with the addition of recreate..hmm contest dieting just got easy..

Of that there is no doubt; dieting is a breeze w/ AP (almost too easy). That sounds logical. I didn't realize you could drop to 20 grams carbs and still get the benefits. I'm still learning the product - what a fun class it is!

 

[snagency]

Instead for 2-3 days, I would lower carbohydrate intake to 20grams per AP dose. I would dose 3 times a day. So 3 meals will have 20grams of carbs and the other meal will be just protein and fats/fiber.

So on these days, would you increase the protein at the reduced carb meals and keep the calories constant? Or keep the protein the same and utilize caloric shift (fat remaining constant in both variables)?

 

[grexx]

Jacob hit the nail right on the head!! That is almost exactly how I'm using AP and it is working phenominaly!!!!

 

[Guest]

So on these days, would you increase the protein at the reduced carb meals and keep the calories constant? Or keep the protein the same and utilize caloric shift (fat remaining constant in both variables)?

you could increase the protein content. I would keep fat constant.

 

[Guest]

Of that there is no doubt; dieting is a breeze w/ AP (almost too easy). That sounds logical. I didn't realize you could drop to 20 grams carbs and still get the benefits. I'm still learning the product - what a fun class it is!

Just listen to your body and if you feel lethargic just bump up carbs to 40-50grams pre workout and retun to 20 grams with other AP dosages.

If you want to complicate matters even more, before you go on the 2-3 day low carb day. I would carb up the day before using P-Slin. By carb up, I mean 200grams of carbohydrates throughout the day.

Now the 2-3 day low carb day is not set in stone. You could extend it to 5-6 days or 7-8 days,...just depends on how you feel. But You will need to reload the muscles with Glycogen so I would not go longer than 5 days without a carb up day.

Just like training, we should fool the metabolism..

 

[snagency]

Just listen to your body and if you feel lethargic just bump up carbs to 40-50grams pre workout and retun to 20 grams with other AP dosages.

If you want to complicate matters even more, before you go on the 2-3 day low carb day. I would carb up the day before using P-Slin. By carb up, I mean 200grams of carbohydrates throughout the day.

Now the 2-3 day low carb day is not set in stone. You could extend it to 5-6 days or 7-8 days,...just depends on how you feel. But You will need to reload the muscles with Glycogen so I would not go longer than 5 days without a carb up day.

Just like training, we should fool the metabolism..

Complicating matters, now there's my strong suit...
That idea does sounds great. I've been keeping carbs constant at 215/day, seeing fat loss at that, but something was telling me I needed some variance.
I want to use P-Slin EVERY workout day tho; are you advising against this for my situation?

 

[snagency]

Jacob hit the nail right on the head!! That is almost exactly how I'm using AP and it is working phenominaly!!!!

And so it looks like. Is that avi your current condition?

 

[Guest]

Complicating matters, now there's my strong suit...
That idea does sounds great. I've been keeping carbs constant at 215/day, seeing fat loss at that, but something was telling me I needed some variance.
I want to use P-Slin EVERY workout day tho; are you advising against this for my situation?

No, in this case, I would keep Plsin pre workout and use around 40-70grams of Carbohydrates and on subsequent meals drop carbohydrate intake to 20-30.

Ideally, you could plan a majority of your carbohydrate intake pre and post worktout and go lower on the other meals.

I never dieted for a show but I trained to drop weight..almost the same. On calorie restriction, I plan the majority of my carbohydrates pre and post workout and morning.

With AP and PSLIN, I never need to go belwo 100grams of carbohydrates a day. I feel comfortable dropping weight at 120-150 and with strategic carb up days. I drop weight and training intensity never sufffers and if it begins to suffer, I fix it will 1,2 or 3 high carbohydrate days.

Look, the mentality of training while you are drained should not be an issue anymore with AP and Plsin.

 

[bolt10]

No, in this case, I would keep Plsin pre workout and use around 40-70grams of Carbohydrates and on subsequent meals drop carbohydrate intake to 20-30.

Ideally, you could plan a majority of your carbohydrate intake pre and post worktout and go lower on the other meals.

I never dieted for a show but I trained to drop weight..almost the same. On calorie restriction, I plan the majority of my carbohydrates pre and post workout and morning.

With AP and PSLIN, I never need to go belwo 100grams of carbohydrates a day. I feel comfortable dropping weight at 120-150 and with strategic carb up days. I drop weight and training intensity never sufffers and if it begins to suffer, I fix it will 1,2 or 3 high carbohydrate days.

Look, the mentality of training while you are drained should not be an issue anymore with AP and Plsin.

this is exactly the way i look to employ my cut beginning near may..and if you did not see in my log i've been losing weight at 3000 cals a day...dang its nice being 18 lol

 

[Guest]

this is exactly the way i look to employ my cut beginning near may..and if you did not see in my log i've been losing weight at 3000 cals a day...dang its nice being 18 lol

bolt, you have a bright future. You are light years ahead of the competition.

18 and AP is a wonderful thing!

 

[snagency]

No, in this case, I would keep Plsin pre workout and use around 40-70grams of Carbohydrates and on subsequent meals drop carbohydrate intake to 20-30.

Ideally, you could plan a majority of your carbohydrate intake pre and post worktout and go lower on the other meals.

I never dieted for a show but I trained to drop weight..almost the same. On calorie restriction, I plan the majority of my carbohydrates pre and post workout and morning.

With AP and PSLIN, I never need to go belwo 100grams of carbohydrates a day. I feel comfortable dropping weight at 120-150 and with strategic carb up days. I drop weight and training intensity never sufffers and if it begins to suffer, I fix it will 1,2 or 3 high carbohydrate days.

Look, the mentality of training while you are drained should not be an issue anymore with AP and Plsin.

Awesome! This is the answer I was looking for. Prefer to do the majority pre & post w/o myself, and the premise of strategic carb-up days I def. can get a grip on. Thanx for all the great ideas. That AP manual is pretty cool btw, extremely informative.

 

[snagency]

this is exactly the way i look to employ my cut beginning near may..and if you did not see in my log i've been losing weight at 3000 cals a day...dang its nice being 18 lol

18 huh? Yep, that explains it. Man, to have products like these w/ this kind of info available... Jacob's right, you've got all building blocks to be a beast!

 

[bolt10]

bolt, you have a bright future. You are light years ahead of the competition.

18 and AP is a wonderful thing!

18 huh? Yep, that explains it. Man, to have products like these w/ this kind of info available... Jacob's right, you've got all building blocks to be a beast!

Thanks you guys. That is why i am real big into using AP and P-slin with the basics. I feel that my body is still primed to build pretty easily and if i can maximize the nutrients it is using i can build a better physique without the need of many supps. I hope i am a beast one day...patience is a virtue...

 

[snagency]

Thanks you guys. That is why i am real big into using AP and P-slin with the basics. I feel that my body is still primed to build pretty easily and if i can maximize the nutrients it is using i can build a better physique without the need of many supps. I hope i am a beast one day...patience is a virtue...

great outlook bolt, you're def. doing it right. so far ahead of the "mental" curve for your age... you're obvious genetics & drive don't hurt matters either! glad i'll be in the masters when you hit your peak, lol.

 

[snagency]

Look, the mentality of training while you are drained should not be an issue anymore with AP and Plsin.

dude, you are not kidding. set some PB's today weight & endurance-wise, the workouts just keep getting better. unreal - check your mailbox for an update pic. YOU ARE THE MAN!

 

[snagency]

Thought I should throw an update out there, pertaining to my "theory".
The fat loss I have experienced the last few days has been truly off the hook. In fact, I am having to readjust some things to keep from dropping too much weight, and making better use of the AP/P-Slin combo. I went from 186 to 182 over the last 3 days, and this was with a 250g/2500 cal carb-up day on Sunday, and 150g carb/2250 cal day yeaterday. The AP is really kicking. I feel kinda sheepish now, whining about wanting to increase fat loss. All I had to do was let the product do it's thing. Amazing. Remember tho, as a former keto-guy, this carb concept is a tough thing for me to get a handle on. I'm learning as I go.
My plans for the next few weeks are to increase carb intake; thinking of varying 200-300g/day, along w/ a corresponding increase in total caloric intake (maybe throw in a few 3000 cal days?). I'm about 6 1/2 weeks out, so there's time to play around a bit. Increase carb intake to 300g on a regular basis @ 6 weeks out - AND still be shredded?? WOW. Never woulda thunk it. Amazing product.
Flush the whole "reverse keto" theory. Definitely no need for that.