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New bodybuilder 5 11 235, All Natural

18", and 18" lean are two different things for sure. I've been 18 1/3" at 5'10" about 14-15% BF (not the avatar pic, they may have been 17" there), and I had a buddy with arms that were about 17 3/4" and they looked considerably larger than mine did (he's about my height).

If he's over 18" he's definitely no higher than 19". Jay Cutlers arms are 22". No way in hell are this guys 21".

His arms are def over 19". My arms are 18" and his look a decent amount bigger than mine do...
 
Call me a hater ... But if he is all natural, I am full of sh!t ... which I sure am, but there is no way you are all natural at 5'11 235lbs after 2 years of serious dedicated training.
 
His arms are def over 19". My arms are 18" and his look a decent amount bigger than mine do...
Looks can be very deceiving. I have a friend whose arms look bigger than yours as well, they're about 17 3/4". The muscle shape just lends itself to that appearance. Relatively short arms, small bones, small head = big looking arms :D

I'd give him 19 max. 20+" muscular, lean arms are enormous.

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He could also have a small head.

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Jay's are 22" flexed. And jay has a huge head :lol:
 
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