question on Havoc pulse cycle: different info from other forum..

evolution

evolution

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Hello All,

I was reading on the anabolics forum for some additional info on pulsing Havoc. And I have a question for you all.

I originally read most info on dutchbodybuilding.com and bodybuilding.com, before I discovered anabolicminds.com forum. And strangely enough, there is somethimes a difference on info of both forums. :) certainly about the 'additional supps', I read other info..
And now I'm doubting about my cycle.
What do you think of this cycle?:

This is how I originally planned it:
Schedule:
week 1 : 10/20/30
week 2 : 30/30/30 (20before training, 10after)
week 3-5 : 40/40/40
week 6: 50/50/50? (depends how I'm feeling)

extra (always):
-Absolute Quality Bulk SuperCissus – 2g/day
-taurine 2g/day and increase if necessary till 6g/day
-Potassium: more then 1 g/day
-multi-vit

extra off-day:
-Designer Supplements Lean Extreme (cortisol blocker) => better recovery, take AM
-DHEA (25/50g/day) => additional gain, take AM
-Gaspari Novedex XT (test booster) less ‘back bounce’, less post cycle therapy necessary

PCT:
Ergopharm 6-OXO: (Take 3 to 6 capsules at night with last meal.)
Day 1-3 6 caps
Day 4-6 5 caps
Day 7-9 4 caps
Day 10/12 3 caps
Day 13-15 2 caps

This was my original plan (you see that I already read a lot about this :-) )
And now I'm reading a lot on 'cycle support' and 'post cycle support' on this forum. And I'm doubting about my 'off-days' and my 'PCT'.

I think the test-booster and cortisol blocker on the off-days should keep my libido ok. (instead of using 'post cycle support')
On dutchbodybuilding.com most people also use a bottle of 6-oxo as PCT, (most even thought this was not necessary as they had no shutdown..)

Maybe I can combine 6-oxo with 'post cycle support' as PCT? (to make my PCT 'stronger'? or is this overkill?) If so, which quantity should I take it?

Your opinions please on my havoc pulse cycle.
I'm really doubting now :( should I stick with my original plan or not??


thanks in advance
evolution
 
evolution said:
Hello All,

I was reading on the anabolics forum for some additional info on pulsing Havoc. And I have a question for you all.

I originally read most info on dutchbodybuilding.com and bodybuilding.com, before I discovered anabolicminds.com forum. And strangely enough, there is somethimes a difference on info of both forums. :) certainly about the 'additional supps', I read other info..
And now I'm doubting about my cycle.
What do you think of this cycle?:

This is how I originally planned it:
Schedule:
week 1 : 10/20/30
week 2 : 30/30/30 (20before training, 10after)
week 3-5 : 40/40/40
week 6: 50/50/50? (depends how I'm feeling)

extra (always):
-Absolute Quality Bulk SuperCissus – 2g/day
-taurine 2g/day and increase if necessary till 6g/day
-Potassium: more then 1 g/day
-multi-vit

extra off-day:
-Designer Supplements Lean Extreme (cortisol blocker) => better recovery, take AM
-DHEA (25/50g/day) => additional gain, take AM
-Gaspari Novedex XT (test booster) less ‘back bounce’, less post cycle therapy necessary

post cycle therapy:
Ergopharm 6-OXO: (Take 3 to 6 capsules at night with last meal.)
Day 1-3 6 caps
Day 4-6 5 caps
Day 7-9 4 caps
Day 10/12 3 caps
Day 13-15 2 caps

This was my original plan (you see that I already read a lot about this :-) )
And now I'm reading a lot on 'cycle support' and 'post cycle support' on this forum. And I'm doubting about my 'off-days' and my 'PCT'.

I think the test-booster and cortisol blocker on the off-days should keep my libido ok. (instead of using 'post cycle support')
On dutchbodybuilding.com most people also use a bottle of 6-oxo as PCT, (most even thought this was not necessary as they had no shutdown..)

Maybe I can combine 6-oxo with 'post cycle support' as PCT? (to make my PCT 'stronger'? or is this overkill?) If so, which quantity should I take it?

Your opinions please on my havoc pulse cycle.
I'm really doubting now :( should I stick with my original plan or not??


thanks in advance
evolution
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Off days look ok, but I would use a serm for pct, unless you take a two week break in the middle of the cycle. IMO, pulsing is worthless, after 4 weeks I was shut down like a regular cycle.
 
LilPsychotic said:
Off days look ok, but I would use a serm for post cycle therapy, unless you take a two week break in the middle of the cycle. IMO, pulsing is worthless, after 4 weeks I was shut down like a regular cycle.
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thanks for the comment already.

where you really shut down completely by pulsing Havoc? it's really strange that it can differ so much with people. I spoke to peope who said 'I had no shutdown at all, I took 6-oxo because I ordered it, and had it standing in the closet' :)

Which quantity did you take of Havoc?
Which PCT did you take then? Nolva?
 
It's good to have some sort of SERM on hand just in-case.
A lot of people talk about products such as PCS because it has Resveratrol. from what I hear this product was ment for pulsing cylces or steroids that are more mild. Take a look into the products with resveratrol if you are not into the whole buying prescription serms type deal.
Remember better save then sorry.
 
WeakPoint said:
It's good to have some sort of SERM on hand just in-case.
A lot of people talk about products such as PCS because it has Resveratrol. from what I hear this product was ment for pulsing cylces or steroids that are more mild. Take a look into the products with resveratrol if you are not into the whole buying prescription serms type deal.
Remember better save then sorry.
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I already ordered Post Cycle Support. I'm doubting to use this instead of 6-OXO as PCT
 
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