Letro/Tamox for gyno.

Stoni9

Stoni9

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Well i've been doing a stupid amount of research on this, and thought I would throw it in a thread to see what you guys think. RenegadeRows has been extremely helpful as well in dealing with my PM's. Thanks bro! Ive read articles on both, and threads on both. Ive read up on pros and cons on both.

About me: I have a bit of gyno from a cycle of M1T gone bad 4 years ago. I was a decent 180, and slimmed down to a lean 165-170. I used a 4 week cycle or M1T, and followed up with only novedex (just the ATD). no, i didnt do proper research. my 1 month cycle went very well. i hit like 185. bigger than i thought i would ever get. i'm paying for my lack of research now.

Tamox...a serm, blocks receptors. however, it sounds like it's best as a PCT only, as it only blocks receptors, and halting the effects of estrogen. ive read tho, that when receptors are blocked, new receptors may pop up. more receptors is not good.

Letro...kills estrogen in the body. however, a bit of estrogen is needed for the body. the stuff is strong.

I have a supply of both right now. also have some rebound. What do you guys think? I am 4 years off my cycle, so i'm thinking the tamox won't do anything. Help me out guys. I plan on starting one of these on Monday. I dont want to make this post too long, so have at it!!
 
WheyGood said:
It seems to me that you would run the Letro cycle for the amount/duration that you have planned, then taper off the Letro and do a traditional post cycle therapy cycle of Tamox to avoid the estrogen rebound that could occur after a Letro cycle (which will bring your estrogen levels down close to zero depending on dosage).

Other opinions?
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that's exactly what i was planning if i went letro. if i went SERM, i would use the tamox and rebound, like renegade so kindly suggested. i tried to get ralox, but it's on back order everywhere.
 
From my painful experience..if it's gyno that's been established for more than a several months..all the serms and AI's in the world probably will not get rid of it entirely. Reduce it..yes, but having the tissue magically disappear just doesn't seem to happen.

These strategies DO work if you catch the gyno right away, however.

If people have gotten their long established gyno to go away COMPLETELY..I hope they will chime in.
 
bioman said:
From my painful experience..if it's gyno that's been established for more than a several months..all the serms and AI's in the world probably will not get rid of it entirely. Reduce it..yes, but having the tissue magically disappear just doesn't seem to happen.

These strategies DO work if you catch the gyno right away, however.

If people have gotten their long established gyno to go away COMPLETELY..I hope they will chime in.
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i also hope they chime in....

I need to figure out something. Insurance denied me of course, and I can't exactly afford a 4,500 surgery. i need to atleast tone mine down a bit. I've also read that Tamox for gyno will be a temporary fix, as it ususally tends to come back a bit.

I just wanna take this as far as I can with self-med before going to the surgeon again
 
I understand and am in the same boat. Tried 2-3 nolva/letro/ATD combos with mixed success..but it came back.

Not trying to be a downer though as it can't hurt to try.
 
Came across this thread a while ago and added it to my favorites just in case. Dont know if it will help you considering you dont have RALOX.

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nickd84 said:
Came across this thread a while ago and added it to my favorites just in case. Dont know if it will help you considering you dont have RALOX.

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trust me, that page has been bookmarked. it's what got me talking to renegade. he said a good alternative would be tamox, but in doing research, it doesn't seem as promising as i would have hoped.
 
It certainly is NOT a cure all. With it's anti-E and serm like properties is has some applications but IMO, with the pills being mostly 10mg there is little flexibility in dosing protocol..ie tapering off is not as smooth as I would like it to be.

It reduced my gyno, then the knot puffed back up after cessation of Epi.
 
well, my rebound xt came in, my letrozole came in, and my tamoxifen came in.

i don't know what to do :think:
 
bioman said:
From my painful experience..if it's gyno that's been established for more than a several months..all the serms and AI's in the world probably will not get rid of it entirely. Reduce it..yes, but having the tissue magically disappear just doesn't seem to happen.

These strategies DO work if you catch the gyno right away, however.

If people have gotten their long established gyno to go away COMPLETELY..I hope they will chime in.
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I read last night that someone had gyno for a year and used the Letro protocol and got rid of it. So it is definately possible.
Help a brother out chime in!!

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N4cer said:
The medical community has been using tamoxifen and now raloxifene with good results.
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Raloxifene isn't an option because it is on backorder everywhere.

Tamoxifen i'm worried is best for the onset of gyno, not existing.

whatever, i was hoping a healthy debate would start, but this is clearly a dead thread/issue.
 
Stoni9 said:
Raloxifene isn't an option because it is on backorder everywhere.

Tamoxifen i'm worried is best for the onset of gyno, not existing.

whatever, i was hoping a healthy debate would start, but this is clearly a dead thread/issue.
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First off: raloxifene is NOT on backorder everywhere.

Secondly: your worry is unfounded. The medical community has had success TREATING gyno - not preventing it - with tamoxifen. It's not even debatable. It's a fact.
 
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