EST Propadrol?

Jstrong20 said:
Good for strength but not so much for size. When I took it I expected m1t like effects and its a completley diffrent animal.
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Size is only as good as diet. Increase in strength will increase the muscle damage in terms increase the size if the right things take place, good posworkout meal, glutamine, bcaas, creatine, etc. Can't expect a product alone to give you size except for increase in water retention
 
Jstrong20 said:
Good for strength but not so much for size. When I took it I expected m1t like effects and its a completley diffrent animal.
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HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA expected m1t like gains what kinda crack were you smoking lol jk but seriously who made believe you would experience anything like m1t from propadrol?
 
Steelers, Pats, BLAH...

If the Colts get healthy in time for playoffs.... LOOK OUT.

They almost , and SHOULD have beat the Pats had Vin not missed 2 field goals. And that was minus Harrison and Ugoh at tackle. Charlie Johnson) blew against the pats. Plus, Colvin is out for the season for the Pats now. If Diem gets back soon w/ Ugoh being back now..... Look out!
 
Wilderbeast said:
Steelers, Pats, BLAH...

If the Colts get healthy in time for playoffs.... LOOK OUT.

They almost , and SHOULD have beat the Pats had Vin not missed 2 field goals. And that was minus Harrison and Ugoh at tackle. Charlie Johnson) blew against the pats. Plus, Colvin is out for the season for the Pats now. If Diem gets back soon w/ Ugoh being back now..... Look out!
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hey i woulda said the same myself but i for some reason dont find the colts fun to watch as odd as that may sound! Also, did I mention this ha been a pretty good thread as there have been many questions answered and points made!
 
BLADE74 said:
Size is only as good as diet. Increase in strength will increase the muscle damage in terms increase the size if the right things take place, good posworkout meal, glutamine, bcaas, creatine, etc. Can't expect a product alone to give you size except for increase in water retention
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Not true. Size is greatly influenced by what you take. I've ran test/tren/anadrol and test/winny. Same diet and big surprise the 1st stack gave huge size and strength increases. Of coarse some bloat but all said in done at the end I was way larger. I'd like to see someone gain large amounts of size on halotesten or melbourne alone.
 
Jstrong20 said:
Not true. Size is greatly influenced by what you take. I've ran test/tren/anadrol and test/winny. Same diet and big surprise the 1st stack gave huge size and strength increases. Of coarse some bloat but all said in done at the end I was way larger. I'd like to see someone gain large amounts of size on halotesten or melbourne alone.
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agreed.. to an extent..
 
Jstrong20 said:
Not true. Size is greatly influenced by what you take. I've ran test/tren/anadrol and test/winny. Same diet and big surprise the 1st stack gave huge size and strength increases. Of coarse some bloat but all said in done at the end I was way larger. I'd like to see someone gain large amounts of size on halotesten or melbourne alone.
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well that first stack was VERY toxic and taxing on the body. so yes quicker muscle recovery than your first stack and you were stronger on your first stack than your second, or at least you should have been. Winny IMO is nothing more than a slight andorgenic property but more inlines of nitrogen retention in muscle and not a leaner. your tren would harden you, test blow you up along with the anadrol which WOW, wouldn't want to rub you the wrojng way on that stack.. your own shadow might piss you off with the chemicals in your system. lol
 
haha yeah it was rough. I get what your saying though that diet and training is number one. I had someone distracting me when I was typing the last post and realize I came off a little bithcy.lol I was just saying some things are better suited for mass. I do like the methyl xt though and I'm surprised its not more popular. I see in your avatar your a competitor and experienced so if you've gained 6lbs of solid tissue thats great. As far as winny goes my body just doesn't respond to it well. I know guys who love it. For me I seem to make the best gains when test is stacked with something androgenic like tren.
 
boxmeman said:
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA expected m1t like gains what kinda crack were you smoking lol jk but seriously who made believe you would experience anything like m1t from propadrol?
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Nah I was reffering to the methyl xt. When researching it I've seen a good number of people on another board say it was similar. Like I said methyl xt is good in its own right but not the same type of drug.
 
Jstrong20 said:
haha yeah it was rough. I get what your saying though that diet and training is number one. I had someone distracting me when I was typing the last post and realize I came off a little bithcy.lol I was just saying some things are better suited for mass. I do like the methyl xt though and I'm surprised its not more popular. I see in your avatar your a competitor and experienced so if you've gained 6lbs of solid tissue thats great. As far as winny goes my body just doesn't respond to it well. I know guys who love it. For me I seem to make the best gains when test is stacked with something androgenic like tren.
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And that's EXACTLY true, what works for me might not work for you. We all have different receptors and some are more absorbent than others. I know with this stack If I upped my carbs more than i am now that I'd be bigger but my avatar doesn't show how i had to lose 47lbs in 13 weeks naturally (i didn't use any anabolics or dairetics except ALRI evo and tri lean systems) and i went from 30% bf at 230 to 4%bf 176. Now my goal is to be at 198lbs conditioned to compete and only have to lose 20-25lbs to get there. lol
 
boxmeman said:
Nonetheless m1t is IMO better regardless of the conversion that takes place
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Better how? Methyl 1-Testosterone does not convert and its debatable as to how much Methyl XT converts or if its simply orally active like Methyl 1-T. Basically, both are very different, but both have a chemical structure that is very similar on paper. I know people(myself included) who have ran Methyl 1-T before and would not touch the stuff if you paid them to. Methyl XT did/does not instill the same feeling of reluctance in most experienced users.
 
slow-mun said:
Better how? Methyl 1-Testosterone does not convert and its debatable as to how much Methyl XT converts or if its simply orally active like Methyl 1-T. Basically, both are very different, but both have a chemical structure that is very similar on paper. I know people(myself included) who have ran Methyl 1-T before and would not touch the stuff if you paid them to. Methyl XT did/does not instill the same feeling of reluctance in most experienced users.
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like you stated its different due to the fact that most wouldn't touch m1t! I appreciate your knack for debating and providing factual info on the subject.
 
I have read numerous reviews where people claimed Methyl XT gave them the best strength gains out of anything they have ever ran, including M1T. So I understand what your saying about how effective M1T is, I'm not trying to argue that, I'm just saying that in the strength compartment Methyl XT is supposedly better. Not for size, but defiantly for strength. I also understand the comments about how harsh M1T is on the body, but I have also read that Methyl XT is potentially just as harsh. I have seen where people compared the level of sides as similar to those experienced on Superdrol and M1T.

Jstrong20 can you tell me more about your XT cycle? Like length, dosages, sides, etc?
 
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