Celc5's NutraPlanet Ultimate NHA Stack (plus some leftovers) and HST Training

[celc5]

theBigT, I'm pretty much anti-ADED. Jungle Warfare and Alpha Drive XL both get a big thumbsdown from me. In fact, I'm considering dropping it from the current stack because it's completely being overshadowed by the effects of the Eform. I prefer just about every other AI I've tried over ADED.

Day 20

Wednesday, November 29, 2007

If I had to judge very subjectively, I'd say the backbone of my stack is Eform/LeanExtreme. I'm pretty sure the 2 unopened bottles of Alpha Drive are going to go up on the trading block within the next few days.

The sleeper in the stack is the Activate. I really liked divanil when I was POUNDING calories during post cycle therapy with lots of carbs. However, I'm on a semi-restricted diet and it's difficult to judge strength during HST style training. Activate is going to remain in the stack hopefully to keep a hard full look with continued recomp.

Weight is around 198 the last few days and I measured my arms at 17 inches which is the biggest I've ever measured by about 1/4 inch. The stomach is looking flatter and abs make cameo appearances throughout the day. I got distracted with my trainer tonight so we never actually did the skinfolds as planned. ...number 4 with the chick who cut my hair yesterday and number 5 with the trainer tonight :head: I gotta catch up from last weeks slump for sure

 

[thebigt]

damn, 17 inches. not bad for a light weight,jk. hey dont sell the activate short on it's recomp ability. i did'nt get much strength but looked leaner while taking. it also is probably playing a role in your increased libido. divaniil stacked with e-form is nice. act ex solo just soso. oh yeah, i thought you would like the lean x. one of the few improved products that actually work better.:food:izza:

 

[celc5]

BigT, yes you said several times that you liked LeanX. That's pretty much the reason why I opted for it in this stack. Thanks bro :cheers:

Day 21

Interesting turn of events today. Libido is IN THE TANK! Eck, this is NOT acceptable. Alpha Drive is OUT :aargh: I also noticed that last night wasn't up to par with my usual performance with the trainer. Not cool on an nha stack IMO.

Workout was fantastic again today. Pump is nice, lookin lean, and weight is holdin steady around 198/199.

I'm very surprised about the gain in arm size, especially because I'm training about 25% LIGHTER than I usually do. Quality of contraction seems to be essential for muscle growth where the gross weight is priority for strength. My philosophy on training is slowwwwwwly starting to change with this HST influence.

Btw, for those who are reading this log, feel free to make offers for a trade for 2 bottles of unopened Alpha Drive for 1 unopened bottle of whatever you offer. After a few days, it's going up on the lean bulk trade block.

 

[Distilled Water]

Btw, for those who are reading this log, feel free to make offers for a trade for 2 bottles of unopened Alpha Drive for 1 unopened bottle of whatever you offer. After a few days, it's going up on the lean bulk trade block.

I may take you up on that. i also have 2 bottles of Alpha Drive and may megadose 4 bottles with some Liquid Masterdrol (it was free so lay off me guys) next summer.

 

[thebigt]

BigT, yes you said several times that you liked LeanX. That's pretty much the reason why I opted for it in this stack. Thanks bro :cheers:

Day 21

Interesting turn of events today. Libido is IN THE TANK! Eck, this is NOT acceptable. Alpha Drive is OUT :aargh: I also noticed that last night wasn't up to par with my usual performance with the trainer. Not cool on an nha stack IMO.

Workout was fantastic again today. Pump is nice, lookin lean, and weight is holdin steady around 198/199.

I'm very surprised about the gain in arm size, especially because I'm training about 25% LIGHTER than I usually do. Quality of contraction seems to be essential for muscle growth where the gross weight is priority for strength. My philosophy on training is slowwwwwwly starting to change with this HST influence.

Btw, for those who are reading this log, feel free to make offers for a trade for 2 bottles of unopened Alpha Drive for 1 unopened bottle of whatever you offer. After a few days, it's going up on the lean bulk trade block.

you're a hellofva guy, first you say how much you hate the stuff then you solicit a trade. oh well at least you were honest about it.:trout:

 

[EctoPower]

I'm late to the party, as usual.

Must be nice to get laid so often... lucky bastard

 

[celc5]

you're a hellofva guy, first you say how much you hate the stuff then you solicit a trade. oh well at least you were honest about it.:trout:

Ya that's why I'd totally suck at marketing supplements. I'd go out of business for my honest reviews :lol:

I'm late to the party, as usual.
Must be nice to get laid so often... lucky bastard

It wasn't always that way. It took about 3 or 4 years of watching my friends in college to "learn" the ropes. Best dude I ever saw was in my class in grad school. One night he said, "I'm not talking to any girls tonight. I'm just going to stand there and see what happens." Ten minutes later he walked out of the bar arm in arm with a "9" that he had never met before.

After grad school I read a few books and my game got so good that I started to feel guilty, especially with chics that were like 21 or 22. Now I don't use any game anymore. I just do whatever I can to piss her off and then see if I can still get laid. I tell em all that I date several girls, that they have NO chance of bagging me, and they don't meet my standards. I get a laugh and they just seem to try harder

oh ya, i took supplements, workout was great, I look good, libido sucks.

 

[thebigt]

Ya that's why I'd totally suck at marketing supplements. I'd go out of business for my honest reviews :lol:



It wasn't always that way. It took about 3 or 4 years of watching my friends in college to "learn" the ropes. Best dude I ever saw was in my class in grad school. One night he said, "I'm not talking to any girls tonight. I'm just going to stand there and see what happens." Ten minutes later he walked out of the bar arm in arm with a "9" that he had never met before.

After grad school I read a few books and my game got so good that I started to feel guilty, especially with chics that were like 21 or 22. Now I don't use any game anymore. I just do whatever I can to piss her off and then see if I can still get laid. I tell em all that I date several girls, that they have NO chance of bagging me, and they don't meet my standards. I get a laugh and they just seem to try harder

oh ya, i took supplements, workout was great, I look good, libido sucks.

thats old school, people always want what you tell them they cant have-duh.:smite:expecially good looking chicks who are used to getting what they want. i been out of the game awhile but human nature hasnt changed much since cain and abel.

 

[celc5]

expecially good looking chicks who are used to getting what they want

Right on bro! THAT is classic advice... too bad most guys will still just gush over a hot chick and roll out the red carpet. Sure fire way to get abused for a fancy dinner and have her go home and bend over for the jail bird bad boy.

Day 25

Monday, December 3, 2007

Hmm, I think I screwed up the days and dates somewhere last week :think:

Body comp change is fantastic. I have vascularity where I usually don't. I have definition in my shoulder and chest where I usually don't as well. Over the weekend, I got a comment from the lady trainer about my abs popping out while we were doing, well you know The only lacking part overall seems to be quads, which are naturally big on my frame anyway. All in all, I'm very pleased to this point.

HST training continues to be fun and my joints are LOVING the submaximal lifts. Even if I don't use strictly HST philosophies in the future, I doubt I'll ever train for strength or power again. I just feel too good to do that to myself anymore without a sport specific goal.

Libido is in the tank still. The "boys" have no atrophy so I'm wondering if there's a psychological aspect to this? Luckily I had some Aspire to take care of things over the weekend. I split open the pill and put equal drops in 2 nutracaps because I HATE how I feel on a whole pill of Aspire, simply miserable with the sinus congestion side effects.

 

[thebigt]

Right on bro! THAT is classic advice... too bad most guys will still just gush over a hot chick and roll out the red carpet. Sure fire way to get abused for a fancy dinner and have her go home and bend over for the jail bird bad boy.

Day 25

Monday, December 3, 2007

Hmm, I think I screwed up the days and dates somewhere last week :think:

Body comp change is fantastic. I have vascularity where I usually don't. I have definition in my shoulder and chest where I usually don't as well. Over the weekend, I got a comment from the lady trainer about my abs popping out while we were doing, well you know The only lacking part overall seems to be quads, which are naturally big on my frame anyway. All in all, I'm very pleased to this point.

HST training continues to be fun and my joints are LOVING the submaximal lifts. Even if I don't use strictly HST philosophies in the future, I doubt I'll ever train for strength or power again. I just feel too good to do that to myself anymore without a sport specific goal.

Libido is in the tank still. The "boys" have no atrophy so I'm wondering if there's a psychological aspect to this? Luckily I had some Aspire to take care of things over the weekend. I split open the pill and put equal drops in 2 nutracaps because I HATE how I feel on a whole pill of Aspire, simply miserable with the sinus congestion side effects.

havent you heard about the low dose aspire? quite a bit cheaper too.

 

[celc5]

havent you heard about the low dose aspire? quite a bit cheaper too.

Yup, but I have a bottle of the original already in my stash. The 1/2 cap of Aspire takes a little longer to kick, which is fine by me. Thank god it only lasts for about 48 hours instead of 3 days that the full cap does to me. Seriously, you can only bang the same chick so many times in one day. ...especially after zero sleep because of sinus congestion sleep apnea (which is a side-effect that I get from aspire).

 

[celc5]

Day 26

Tuesday, December 4, 2007

Libido is back :head: I really had to restrain myself from calling the ex again. I wanna hold out for tomorrow's Australian Pink Floyd concert. I'll be sure to bag a hippie chick at that one

Today's workout was great. I got a sample of Superpump250. The energy was smooth, it kicked in within about 15 minutes, and there was also a mood enhancement effect as well. I prefer Superpump over RPM to be honest. Superpump is a nice preworkout supp but still not quite as good as my gold standard, TRAC Extreme NO.

Since I mentioned PreWO mixes, I also tried a sample of NanoVapor a few weeks ago. It was a nice product but I'd prefer RPM and SuperPump over it.

I've been tossing around some ideas for how to train with HST on cycle after the new year. The key seems to be timing the cycle for particular microcycles and maybe even incorporating 12's or 8's. I need to think about this some more :think:

 

[thebigt]

what the heck is an 'australian pink floyd'?

 

[celc5]

what the heck is an 'australian pink floyd'?

They're a Pink Floyd cover band Invalid Link Removed

I've also seen Blue Floyd but don't really see a legit link to anything on them. They were SPECTACULAR, and that's saying a lot since I'm as harsh with critiquing concerts as I am with supplements. BigT, they are definately your speed with some folks from the Allmans and Black Crowes.

Roger Waters puts on an unbelievable show as well. Be sure NOT to miss his band if they come through Indy. Top 5 concerts I've ever seen!

 

[thebigt]

They're a Pink Floyd cover band Invalid Link Removed

I've also seen Blue Floyd but don't really see a legit link to anything on them. They were SPECTACULAR, and that's saying a lot since I'm as harsh with critiquing concerts as I am with supplements. BigT, they are definately your speed with some folks from the Allmans and Black Crowes.

Roger Waters puts on an unbelievable show as well. Be sure NOT to miss his band if they come through Indy. Top 5 concerts I've ever seen!

why not just call them the 'black allman's'. jk couldnt resist. must be gettin old-havent been to a concert in many years. but i definately still listen to -eat a peach, live at fillmore east. no way out really brings back some mems.

 

[celc5]

I think most music has lost its luster... same goes for the entire entertainment business including movies. Everything seems to have been done already so new ideas either have to be off the wall or copies of old school classics.

Aussie Floyd was INCREDIBLE! 2 thumbs up from celc5 :clap2: I personally prefer Blue Floyd for their blues-esque interpretation of Pink Floyd. However, the Aussie's take the cake for accuracy... NOTE FOR NOTE Dark Side of the Moon!

Day 28

4 weeks in already? I MUST get skinfolds done this weekend. I'm still hovering around 198 but I bet I dropped 1 or 2% bodyfat in the last month. I'm anxious to see.

Lidido is up and down again. This is certainly bizarre for me. Hmmm, Alpha Drive has been out for about a week and it's still down. Maybe I'm killing estrogen with an overlap from my post cycle 2 month ago? Some say formestane stays in your system for up to 22 WEEKS! :think:

Just looking in the mirror, my stomach is flatter and my chest looks tighter than it was before the stack. Arms are DEFINATELY bigger with way less overall volume per week, so I'm very happy about that. My legs don't look as HUGE as they usually do but I'm ok with that. I feel pumped constantly, which is a nice bonus.

I tried a sample of Scivation Vasocharge preworkout today. I had no effect from that product.

 

[thebigt]

I think most music has lost its luster... same goes for the entire entertainment business including movies. Everything seems to have been done already so new ideas either have to be off the wall or copies of old school classics.

Aussie Floyd was INCREDIBLE! 2 thumbs up from celc5 :clap2: I personally prefer Blue Floyd for their blues-esque interpretation of Pink Floyd. However, the Aussie's take the cake for accuracy... NOTE FOR NOTE Dark Side of the Moon!

Day 28

4 weeks in already? I MUST get skinfolds done this weekend. I'm still hovering around 198 but I bet I dropped 1 or 2% bodyfat in the last month. I'm anxious to see.

Lidido is up and down again. This is certainly bizarre for me. Hmmm, Alpha Drive has been out for about a week and it's still down. Maybe I'm killing estrogen with an overlap from my post cycle 2 month ago? Some say formestane stays in your system for up to 22 WEEKS! :think:

Just looking in the mirror, my stomach is flatter and my chest looks tighter than it was before the stack. Arms are DEFINATELY bigger with way less overall volume per week, so I'm very happy about that. My legs don't look as HUGE as they usually do but I'm ok with that. I feel pumped constantly, which is a nice bonus.

I tried a sample of Scivation Vasocharge preworkout today. I had no effect from that product.

i would say thats good results from this stack. btw e-form is back in stock, ordered 5 bottles just to have them. oh yeah, just ordered another bottle of r4w, should have ordered 3 or 4 while it's on sale. celc you gotta try this!:woohoo: got me some swell too.

 

[EctoPower]

I think most music has lost its luster... same goes for the entire entertainment business including movies. Everything seems to have been done already so new ideas either have to be off the wall or copies of old school classics.

Aussie Floyd was INCREDIBLE! 2 thumbs up from celc5 :clap2: I personally prefer Blue Floyd for their blues-esque interpretation of Pink Floyd. However, the Aussie's take the cake for accuracy... NOTE FOR NOTE Dark Side of the Moon!

Day 28

4 weeks in already? I MUST get skinfolds done this weekend. I'm still hovering around 198 but I bet I dropped 1 or 2% bodyfat in the last month. I'm anxious to see.

Lidido is up and down again. This is certainly bizarre for me. Hmmm, Alpha Drive has been out for about a week and it's still down. Maybe I'm killing estrogen with an overlap from my post cycle 2 month ago? Some say formestane stays in your system for up to 22 WEEKS! :think:

Just looking in the mirror, my stomach is flatter and my chest looks tighter than it was before the stack. Arms are DEFINATELY bigger with way less overall volume per week, so I'm very happy about that. My legs don't look as HUGE as they usually do but I'm ok with that. I feel pumped constantly, which is a nice bonus.

I tried a sample of Scivation Vasocharge preworkout today. I had no effect from that product.

I mostly agree on the entertainment notes. Though I am excited to see "I'm Not There." If you're a Dylan fan, I've been told that it's a must see.

Sounds like HST is working out well for you. Keep it up bro!

 

[thebigt]

you aint gonna believe this, e-form is out of stock again. i could kick myself for running my mouth about how good it is, damn. oh well i got a stash.

 

[celc5]

BigT, I was thinking the SAME DANG THING when we started those eform posts last summer.... same with the talk on DA. SOB, we hand cuffed ourselves for sure. DOH!

Ecto, i plan on making an HST faq after I finish 8 weeks of it. I'll get thesinner and sfearl1 to comment as well. Those 2 are the ones who encouraged me to try it.

 

[thebigt]

I mostly agree on the entertainment notes. Though I am excited to see "I'm Not There." If you're a Dylan fan, I've been told that it's a must see.

Sounds like HST is working out well for you. Keep it up bro!

dylan, hahaha. mumble mumble mumble mumble tangled up in blue. i agree boston sucks. GO COLTS.

 

[thebigt]

BigT, I was thinking the SAME DANG THING when we started those eform posts last summer.... same with the talk on DA. SOB, we hand cuffed ourselves for sure. DOH!

Ecto, i plan on making an HST faq after I finish 8 weeks of it. I'll get thesinner and sfearl1 to comment as well. Those 2 are the ones who encouraged me to try it.

can you believe all the time i spent talking all those unaware people into trying e-form. sorry celc. check out the thread formestane/sustain. i am going to walk away, i aint the one who has products to sell. i just try to tell it like it is.:aargh:

 

[EctoPower]

can you believe all the time i spent talking all those unaware people into trying e-form. sorry celc. check out the thread formestane/sustain. i am going to walk away, i aint the one who has products to sell. i just try to tell it like it is.:aargh:

T, What's your take on Derm. Sustain? Have you tried it?

And don't knock Dylan... he may be a raggedy old SOB, but he has influenced more musicians than anybody this side of God or Elvis. Besides, he's a weird dude, so it should make for an entertaining movie!

 

[thebigt]

T, What's your take on Derm. Sustain? Have you tried it?

And don't knock Dylan... he may be a raggedy old SOB, but he has influenced more musicians than anybody this side of God or Elvis. Besides, he's a weird dude, so it should make for an entertaining movie!

if you like wierd check out iggy pop. david bowie was a strange one too. saw genesis in 74 and peter gabriel was right up there. ecto, i keep changing my mind about sustain. i am thinking to go with pcs, or 6oxo extreme. in the dermacrine sustain/formestane thread eric admits resveratrol doesnt reduce estrogen but he recommends it for pct. from what i understand it does have estrogenic qualities and stacking with an ai should be a perfect match. in fact i wouldnt run res without a ai, but thats just my opinion.

 

[EctoPower]

if you like wierd check out iggy pop. david bowie was a strange one too. saw genesis in 74 and peter gabriel was right up there. ecto, i keep changing my mind about sustain. i am thinking to go with pcs, or 6oxo extreme. in the dermacrine sustain/formestane thread eric admits resveratrol doesnt reduce estrogen but he recommends it for post cycle therapy. from what i understand it does have estrogenic qualities and stacking with an ai should be a perfect match. in fact i wouldnt run res without a ai, but thats just my opinion.

Interesting. If I'm not mistaken, the resveratrol is supposed to be a test booster of some sort, right? So is it technically true that something that combines it with and AI, like 6oxo extreme is sort of an all in one NHA (although you could still add cort control)? Would adding divanil with 6oxo extreme be beneficial or redundant then? I guess I just don't know enough about res. yet.

I like some older Iggy Pop I guess. Not a Bowie fan. You saw Genesis in '74? Cool. I was minus 4 years old then... damn, T! You're older than dirt! :lol:

 

[thebigt]

Interesting. If I'm not mistaken, the resveratrol is supposed to be a test booster of some sort, right? So is it technically true that something that combines it with and AI, like 6oxo extreme is sort of an all in one NHA (although you could still add cort control)? Would adding divanil with 6oxo extreme be beneficial or redundant then? I guess I just don't know enough about res. yet.

I like some older Iggy Pop I guess. Not a Bowie fan. You saw Genesis in '74? Cool. I was minus 4 years old then... damn, T! You're older than dirt! :lol:

dont underestimate dirt, try living without it. yes ecto, 6oxo extreme/activate extreme imo would be a killer stack. or i may go with pcs/formestane, i think the resveratrol in 6oxo ex is better than sustain or pcs but damn that stack will get expensive in a hurry. if i can get my wife to spend a little money on me for christmas i would love to run the 6oxo extreme/activate extreme stack. i would need 3 bottles of act ex and 5 bottles of 6oxo extreme. i figure a little less than $400. looks like i wont be getting the mercedes e-class this year,lol.:whinerower to the people. oh yeah, saw led zep in 76, whoo they aint noooobody today even comes close to that, and i dont care what color floyd they are, sorry celc. saw ac/dc as warm up for alice cooper and kiss when they first came out. :bow28:

 

[celc5]

i dont care what color floyd they are

LMFAO :toofunny: That made my day!

Ecto, BigT pretty much covered it with 6oxo extreme/activate extreme. That would be as rightous as the original zep lineup... btw, they're playing TONIGHT I believe in London

BigT, ever hear "Destroyer" by Zep?

Btw T, I check out the sustain/form thread. Eesh, no response?

Day 32

Monday, December 10, 2007

Fellas, I have got to tell ya... HST is a fantastic way to train. Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly blowing up, but my joints feel great. I progress every session. And, most importantly, it's mentally productive to look forward to each lift knowing that you will be successful.

Hardness is definately continuing. I had a pretty wicked cold over the past few days with extreme appetite. So, I figured I should listen to my body and chow on the carbs. I feel a little soft lately but my diet over the past 3-4 days is more responsible for that, to no fault of the stack.

Vascularity continues to be nice, but libido continues to be peculiarly up and down. I have some Vitrix on the way and plan on incorporating that on weekends rather than aspire. Aspire is such a catch 22 with positive and negative effects.

I won a tub of SMASH preworkout mix on another board and I tried it today. I was unable to fairly assess how well it worked as I was pretty doped up on pseudoephrine and like 5 other OTC cold remedies. Mood enhancement was there but I'll give it another shot sometime this week.

 

[thebigt]

LMFAO :toofunny: That made my day!

Ecto, BigT pretty much covered it with 6oxo extreme/activate extreme. That would be as rightous as the original zep lineup... btw, they're playing TONIGHT I believe in London

BigT, ever hear "Destroyer" by Zep?

Btw T, I check out the sustain/form thread. Eesh, no response?

Day 32

Monday, December 10, 2007

Fellas, I have got to tell ya... HST is a fantastic way to train. Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly blowing up, but my joints feel great. I progress every session. And, most importantly, it's mentally productive to look forward to each lift knowing that you will be successful.

Hardness is definately continuing. I had a pretty wicked cold over the past few days with extreme appetite. So, I figured I should listen to my body and chow on the carbs. I feel a little soft lately but my diet over the past 3-4 days is more responsible for that, to no fault of the stack.

Vascularity continues to be nice, but libido continues to be peculiarly up and down. I have some Vitrix on the way and plan on incorporating that on weekends rather than aspire. Aspire is such a catch 22 with positive and negative effects.

I won a tub of SMASH preworkout mix on another board and I tried it today. I was unable to fairly assess how well it worked as I was pretty doped up on pseudoephrine and like 5 other OTC cold remedies. Mood enhancement was there but I'll give it another shot sometime this week.

original led zep eh, must have brought john bonham back from the grave. only other drummer that is as powerful to his group is neal pert of rush. no celc, destroyer by led doesnt make the gray matter tingle, heard the album destroyer by kiss though. as for the formestane/sustain thread eric better be careful saying pa made a mistake, that dude is the johnny cochrun of bb forums. my advice, never take aspire with a cold,hehe. ive tried vitrex and loved it first 2 days then effects started to wear off, if your only using it on weekends you should love it. btw dont take any stims with vitrex it gets you pretty pumped up-pun intended. and lay off the cold medicines ya damn junkie, :twisted:

 

[Hollidae]

final??

 

[thebigt]

final??

final? final hell, i dont hear the fat lady singing-unless it's one of celc's chicks. damn it's deja vu all over again. yeah thats right just took my r4w, yeeehaaaw.

 

[EctoPower]

i dont hear the fat lady singing-unless it's one of celc's chicks.

:toofunny:

 

[thebigt]

:toofunny:

yeah, i like that one too.:rofl::cheers:like ac/dc says have a drink on me-non alcoholic of course.

 

[celc5]

Holidae, nah, I'm planning on running this stack until about Christmas. Then 1 week off and I'll start my preload for a phera cycle sometime in the beginning of January.

BigT, Jason Bonham, John's son, is the drummer for the so-called "reunion" concert. I've seen Page & Plant and it was incredible... same goes for when Page toured with the Black Crowes. Whoa!

I'm guessing BigT is about to start a cycle because his sense of humor is usually up while he's on :trout:

Day 33

Tuesday December 11, 2007

The weights are starting to get heavy in my third week of 5's. So I've been doing push/pull splits. HST continues to be a good time.

This stack is keeping the pumps going even with the low rep scheme. Libido is back up, but not to the point that I have to pick up a fat lady like Big insinuates :lol:

Almost forgot, I had a serving of Smash preworkout. I did have mood enhancement and alertness which was cool. I did not have much stim effect. I may add 2 or 3 caps of RPM with Smash since RPM has no mood enhancement/alertness... eh, no big deal.

 

[thebigt]

celc, you must have a high tolerance to no products. ragnarok lit me up but you did'nt like it. smash is getting great reviews but you dd'nt get much. on the other hand, i had to take at least 5 rpm to get anything. btw 2-3 r4w does a lot more than 5 rpm ever did and is cheaper. oh yeah, im on my 2nd bottle of furazadrol-love that stuff. :smite:

 

[celc5]

Ha, I had no concrete evidence but can tell by the nature of your posts when you're ON T :head: BTW, Peyton looked unstoppable with Gonzalez back in the lineup last weekend. When he went down, that was certainly the turning point in the game vs. the Pats a few weeks ago.

Day 35
Thursday, December 13, 2007

Whoa! I got a sample of Fast Twitch by Cytosport and it was absolutely fantastic! Now I'd like to be sure not to jump to conclusions because #1 I got an extra hour of sleep last night and #2 It's just 1 sample... but dang, this stuff rivals TRAC. I'll have to check price and servings and such but may consider ordering a tub. Freakin crazy how everyone responds differently :think:

I'm working on an HST "hybrid" routine for on cycle in January. My thoughts are that 1 day will include squats, 1 with deads, and 1 with calves. So each leg group is sprinkled in only once per week. But upper body will follow HST "rules" at 2-3 times per week. Regardless, it has me in planning mode for the cycle :head:

 

[EctoPower]

celc, you must have a high tolerance to no products. ragnarok lit me up but you did'nt like it. smash is getting great reviews but you dd'nt get much. on the other hand, i had to take at least 5 rpm to get anything. btw 2-3 r4w does a lot more than 5 rpm ever did and is cheaper. oh yeah, im on my 2nd bottle of furazadrol-love that stuff. :smite:

Celc, I'm apologizing in advance for the thread jack. :rasp:

T, how do you usually run Fura when you do it solo? Celc and I laid out a plan for me to use Hdrol, but I'm open to other suggestions in the vein of "mild" PH because I haven't started making my purchases yet. Do you use a SERM in PCT with Fura or just have it on hand in case? I'm just wondering if the non-methylated nature of Fura might mean less support supps and therefore a more economical cycle. And you seem to rave about it more than anybody else!

BTW Celc, I have the double CD of Page live with the Black Crowes. You're right: WHOA! Love that thing. Whole Lotta Love hits like a freight train, but my fave on there is Nobody's Fault But Mine. Not even a Zep song but good god! Then they take it right into Heartbreaker, which also rocks. Good stuff right there.

 

[celc5]

Ecto: No apolagies required, you can talk about anything you want bro. That's why I do the "significant events" and final review in the first 2 or 3 posts.

First off, a Furaz cycle will be WAY more expensive cause it's like $45/bottle and you'll need 2-3 bottles for a cycle. BigT can take the rest of your questions from there because he's done quite a bit of research on OrastanA and clones.

Yup, the Whole Lotta Love "medley" rocks and it's something Zeppelin did quite often as an encore. Nobody's Fault IS a Zep song btw. My favorite song from Page/Crowes double set is the cover of "Oh Well"... Page ripped that guitar solo to shreds :head:

 

[EctoPower]

Ecto: No apolagies required, you can talk about anything you want bro. That's why I do the "significant events" and final review in the first 2 or 3 posts.

First off, a Furaz cycle will be WAY more expensive cause it's like $45/bottle and you'll need 2-3 bottles for a cycle. BigT can take the rest of your questions from there because he's done quite a bit of research on OrastanA and clones.

Yup, the Whole Lotta Love "medley" rocks and it's something Zeppelin did quite often as an encore. Nobody's Fault IS a Zep song btw. My favorite song from Page/Crowes double set is the cover of "Oh Well"... Page ripped that guitar solo to shreds :head:

2 or 3 bottles???? Good god, I didn't realize I would need to dose it that high... oh well. I was probably going to go with Hdrol anyway, but I'm trying to be thorough.

I screwed up. You're right, Nobody's Fault is Zep. I actually don't know what the hell I was thinking. I meant to say "Oh Well." That's a really old Fleetwood Mac song, pre-Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham. Great song and Page tears through the guitar parts like a demon.

 

[thebigt]

2 or 3 bottles???? Good god, I didn't realize I would need to dose it that high... oh well. I was probably going to go with Hdrol anyway, but I'm trying to be thorough.

I screwed up. You're right, Nobody's Fault is Zep. I actually don't know what the hell I was thinking. I meant to say "Oh Well." That's a really old Fleetwood Mac song, pre-Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham. Great song and Page tears through the guitar parts like a demon.

ecto, the furazadrol is expensive no doubt about it. but it feels like the cleanest ph ive used, no sides. actually feel more healthy while on it. imo it's more of a recomp, not mass ph. if you run it plan on at least 2 bottles, i usually run 3. if you try it i think you will like it, great libido boost and real nice alpha- male mentality. i think of furarazadrol as the mercedes of ph's. h-drol is more of a ford escort.:cheers:

 

[thebigt]

Ha, I had no concrete evidence but can tell by the nature of your posts when you're ON T :head: BTW, Peyton looked unstoppable with Gonzalez back in the lineup last weekend. When he went down, that was certainly the turning point in the game vs. the Pats a few weeks ago.

Day 35
Thursday, December 13, 2007

Whoa! I got a sample of Fast Twitch by Cytosport and it was absolutely fantastic! Now I'd like to be sure not to jump to conclusions because #1 I got an extra hour of sleep last night and #2 It's just 1 sample... but dang, this stuff rivals TRAC. I'll have to check price and servings and such but may consider ordering a tub. Freakin crazy how everyone responds differently :think:

I'm working on an HST "hybrid" routine for on cycle in January. My thoughts are that 1 day will include squats, 1 with deads, and 1 with calves. So each leg group is sprinkled in only once per week. But upper body will follow HST "rules" at 2-3 times per week. Regardless, it has me in planning mode for the cycle :head:

well you remember i tagged gonzalez for big things at start of season. i dont count the colts out, hopefully they are saving marvin for the playoffs. fast twitch-unreal you would mention this, look at my thread i posted on DA. it looks like we finally agree on something. i went ahead and got a tub. will last a long time, 1 scoop is plenty for me.:burg:

 

[EctoPower]

ecto, the furazadrol is expensive no doubt about it. but it feels like the cleanest ph ive used, no sides. actually feel more healthy while on it. imo it's more of a recomp, not mass ph. if you run it plan on at least 2 bottles, i usually run 3. if you try it i think you will like it, great libido boost and real nice alpha- male mentality. i think of furarazadrol as the mercedes of ph's. h-drol is more of a ford escort.:cheers:

Ford Escort??? Damn it! It's not bad enough that I drive around a beat up Nissan, I've got to cycle a Ford Escort too? :smite:

 

[celc5]

Hey T, I think I agree with about 99% of your posts. I just don't always say it so I don't look like a total fag :run:

Remember, I come from the BigT school of supplements... your apprentice of sorts :cheers:

 

[EctoPower]

Hey T, I think I agree with about 99% of your posts. I just don't always say it so I don't look like a total fag :run:

Remember, I come from the BigT school of supplements... your apprentice of sorts :cheers:

So, what part of this post doesn't make you look like a total fag? :lol:

 

[thebigt]

Hey T, I think I agree with about 99% of your posts. I just don't always say it so I don't look like a total fag :run:

Remember, I come from the BigT school of supplements... your apprentice of sorts :cheers:

i dont apply to test all the latest supps, not kissing a$$ to be on the tester or rep list. all my RESEARCH come from real world experience. i have a job that requires lots of overtime, so i spend a lot of money trying out different stuff. :cheers:

 

[Hollidae]

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i always like cele posts. but im a lil lost what is eform? and what is hst? ecto. can u show ur halo plan? bigt can i join ur school?

 

[thebigt]

i always like cele posts. but im a lil lost what is eform? and what is hst? ecto. can u show ur halo plan? bigt can i join ur school?

actually celc is being modest. he is far more knowledgeable than i am. i just spend a lot of money on supps and try damn near everything. btw dont tell anyone but e-form is back in stock!

 

[Hollidae]

eform?

 

[celc5]

i always like cele posts. but im a lil lost what is eform? and what is hst? ecto. can u show ur halo plan? bigt can i join ur school?

Eform is transdermal formestane. Formestane is an AI. AIs decrease the effect of aromatase enzymes which convert test to estradiol.

HST is a style of lifting. You lift each body part very frequently with what turns out to be similar to typical total sets per week. It is based primarily on a progressive load theory in relation to 15, 10, and 5 rep maxes.

BigT's style is very honest, which is why I complimented him :head:

 

[Hollidae]

great info.. i still plaining my first run..(check out my post) of halodrol. i have about 5 questions im still doing hw on.

 

[thebigt]

Eform is transdermal formestane. Formestane is an AI. AIs decrease the effect of aromatase enzymes which convert test to estradiol.

HST is a style of lifting. You lift each body part very frequently with what turns out to be similar to typical total sets per week. It is based primarily on a progressive load theory in relation to 15, 10, and 5 rep maxes.

BigT's style is very honest, which is why I complimented him :head:

thank you! i sometimes feel being honest is not always appreciated on this forum.