havoc pct

Musclefever

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im gonna run havoc at 20-30-40-40 +liv 52

pct is either:
atd + test booster
atd + post cycle support
pcs + cortisol blocker
maybe adding zma too
whats the best here? if you have other options pls help out
thanks
 
A synthetic SERM (such as tamoxifen or clomiphene) pwns, but I understand your situation.

PCS and it's metabolites function as SERMs. I would recommend stacking PCS with an AI. ATD is an ok AI. Some love it. Some hate it. It's so so. My personal fave is 6-bromodione as found in Hyperdrol (by AX), aPCT (by AX), Cissusdrol (by GL), or Restore (by ALRI).

With PCT, you're number one objective is getting test levels back. Don't worry about cortisol, IMHO, the push for cortisol control is a little overexaggerated (though it never hurts). There's a lot of other overlooked variables attributing to keeping/not keeping your gains than just cortisol.

ZMA is too slow acting to have any benefit for PCT, in my personal opinion. If you're not taking ZMA regularly, don't bother taking it at all. Using in 30 day spurts is only gonna cut into discretionary income.
 
thesinner said:
A synthetic SERM (such as tamoxifen or clomiphene) pwns, but I understand your situation.

PCS and it's metabolites function as SERMs. I would recommend stacking PCS with an AI. ATD is an ok AI. Some love it. Some hate it. It's so so. My personal fave is 6-bromodione as found in Hyperdrol (by AX), aPCT (by AX), Cissusdrol (by GL), or Restore (by ALRI).

With post cycle therapy, you're number one objective is getting test levels back. Don't worry about cortisol, IMHO, the push for cortisol control is a little overexaggerated (though it never hurts). There's a lot of other overlooked variables attributing to keeping/not keeping your gains than just cortisol.

ZMA is too slow acting to have any benefit for PCT, in my personal opinion. If you're not taking ZMA regularly, don't bother taking it at all. Using in 30 day spurts is only gonna cut into discretionary income.
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thanks sinner :),so im going with 6bromo or atd and pcs should everthing go through ok?
 
thesinner said:
A synthetic SERM (such as tamoxifen or clomiphene) pwns, but I understand your situation.

PCS and it's metabolites function as SERMs. I would recommend stacking PCS with an AI. ATD is an ok AI. Some love it. Some hate it. It's so so. My personal fave is 6-bromodione as found in Hyperdrol (by AX), aPCT (by AX), Cissusdrol (by GL), or Restore (by ALRI).

If using a serm, is it best to be run ramped down, along with an AI, ramped up? I thought that was what I understood, but I'm second guess, and am also confused between using an steroidal AI like 6-oxo extreme, or a non steroidal.
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Musclefever said:
im gonna run havoc at 20-30-40-40 +liv 52

post cycle therapy is either:
atd + test booster
atd + post cycle support
pcs + cortisol blocker
maybe adding zma too
whats the best here? if you have other options pls help out
thanks
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replace one and two with
serm + ai + test booster

ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTATION (your last two lines)
pcs, a cortosol blocker, zma (any and all are good choices)
 
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