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Shutdown and Libido with 1-AD Question

Eagleman003

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Ok say I got 3 bottles of 1-AD (the real stuff) and planning on running a cycle @:

Week 1 - 300mg
Week 2 - 300mg
Week 3 - 600mg
Week 4 - 600mg
Week 5 - 600mg

How bad would my libido be if I did not stack it with 4-AD. To be honest I don't want to worry about any estrogen issues and I like the fact that 1-AD is naturally occuring and non toxic to the liver. Also im not a first time user and have used this stuff before and loved it, however it was stacked with 4-ad and mild dosages for around 4 weeks. Putting the 1-AD up to 600mg for the last 3 weeks is key i feel. I am also a good lean 220-222 pounds at 6'4". In answering my question note that I DO NOT CARE about my libido on cycle, cause I will be in my kitchen making chicken and eggs 24/7. However, I plan on drinking maybe 1-3 times LIGHTLY (2-3 beers over 2-3 hours) during my 2nd week of PCT.

My theory is that I will be less shutdown if I dont stack with 4-AD cuase more Ph's = greater shutdown.

Will my libido be better or worse post cycle if I stacked it with 4-ad (which is hard to find).
 
Is your 1-AD expired ? My friend has one bottle of 1-AD and it expired back in May '07 I think. I'm not sure how much one bottle will do, but I think I'm gonna buy it off of him for 10 bucks. (Originally I offered 5, but he said 10 or no deal).
 
Eagleman003 said:
Ok say I got 3 bottles of 1-AD (the real stuff) and planning on running a cycle @:

Week 1 - 300mg
Week 2 - 300mg
Week 3 - 600mg
Week 4 - 600mg
Week 5 - 600mg

How bad would my libido be if I did not stack it with 4-AD. To be honest I don't want to worry about any estrogen issues and I like the fact that 1-AD is naturally occuring and non toxic to the liver. Also im not a first time user and have used this stuff before and loved it, however it was stacked with 4-ad and mild dosages for around 4 weeks. Putting the 1-AD up to 600mg for the last 3 weeks is key i feel. I am also a good lean 220-222 pounds at 6'4". In answering my question note that I DO NOT CARE about my libido on cycle, cause I will be in my kitchen making chicken and eggs 24/7. However, I plan on drinking maybe 1-3 times LIGHTLY (2-3 beers over 2-3 hours) during my 2nd week of post cycle therapy.

My theory is that I will be less shutdown if I dont stack with 4-AD cuase more Ph's = greater shutdown.

Will my libido be better or worse post cycle if I stacked it with 4-ad (which is hard to find).
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Sorry 1-AD is suppressive to natural testosterone by itself. This why it was run with 4-AD to keep libido up and estrogen up. You should be worried about estrogen levels. Low estrogen will drop white blood cell count and make it much easier to get sick. Low estrogen also lowers HDL levels which is also bad. Low estrogen can also lead to to libido issues.

People have run the cycle you showed and lived with good gains. Your libido will drop close to zero though. Your choices if you can get 4-AD or testosterone are M-TST, superdrol-NG, and DHEA (beware releases a lot of estrogen which is why Super-drol-NG has estrogen reducers).
 
Werewolf said:
Sorry 1-AD is suppressive to natural testosterone by itself. This why it was run with 4-AD to keep libido up and estrogen up. You should be worried about estrogen levels. Low estrogen will drop white blood cell count and make it much easier to get sick. Low estrogen also lowers HDL levels which is also bad. Low estrogen can also lead to to libido issues.

People have run the cycle you showed and lived with good gains. Your libido will drop close to zero though. Your choices if you can get 4-AD or testosterone are M-TST, superdrol-NG, and DHEA (beware releases a lot of estrogen which is why Super-drol-NG has estrogen reducers).
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Well considering 3 bottles of 1-ad would cost me about $200... do you think its better to get H-Drol which is like 10x cheaper and then i dont have to worry about the libido issue. Also what are the gains like compared to 1-ad? Liver Toxicity, etc?
 
Eagleman003 said:
Ok say I got 3 bottles of 1-AD (the real stuff) and planning on running a cycle @:

Week 1 - 300mg
Week 2 - 300mg
Week 3 - 600mg
Week 4 - 600mg
Week 5 - 600mg

How bad would my libido be if I did not stack it with 4-AD. To be honest I don't want to worry about any estrogen issues and I like the fact that 1-AD is naturally occuring and non toxic to the liver. Also im not a first time user and have used this stuff before and loved it, however it was stacked with 4-ad and mild dosages for around 4 weeks. Putting the 1-AD up to 600mg for the last 3 weeks is key i feel. I am also a good lean 220-222 pounds at 6'4". In answering my question note that I DO NOT CARE about my libido on cycle, cause I will be in my kitchen making chicken and eggs 24/7. However, I plan on drinking maybe 1-3 times LIGHTLY (2-3 beers over 2-3 hours) during my 2nd week of post cycle therapy.

My theory is that I will be less shutdown if I dont stack with 4-AD cuase more Ph's = greater shutdown.

Will my libido be better or worse post cycle if I stacked it with 4-ad (which is hard to find).
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1-ad/1-test crushes my libido in less than a week.
 
Ok. So do you guys think it is a better idea to run 2 bottles of H-Drol then considering the legal issues, price and gains?
 
1 AD is awesome, just have a proper PCT set up and you'll be fine....grab some aspire if your shut down on cycle and need to let loose on the gf a night or 2.
send me the 3 bottles of 1 ad and ill send you 2 hdrol...hahaha
 
with the 1-AD being about $200 and not techinally legal im looking towards either h-drol or epistane which is much much less expensive and easier on the libido. That way I can PCT with something like 6-oxo if i take epistane. What do you guys think i should do?
 
Eagleman003 said:
Well considering 3 bottles of 1-ad would cost me about $200... do you think its better to get H-Drol which is like 10x cheaper and then i dont have to worry about the libido issue. Also what are the gains like compared to 1-ad? Liver Toxicity, etc?
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Actually I think 1-AD has higher gains. Taking H-drol with 1-AD should give you really good gains without libido issues, but estrogen will go low. 200 mgs of DHEA taken in the morning should fix that.

H-drol is mild for a methyl, but all methyls take a toll on the liver and rest of the body. You need to take supps to control the sides. Pulsing is showing very good results with lower sides.

Epistane in a pulse is a real winner for low sides and good results.

My favorites in order currently go this way: Epistane then Phera-plex, then superdrol for mass vs sides.

Something else to consider is that 1-AD is illegal. Still 1-AD(1-T)/4-AD is still one of my favorites for gain vs sides.
 
well consider that epistane is $40 and 1-ad is about $200.. ill go with the epistane.. im am going to run a 20/30/30/40... hopefully i can gain a good 8 pounds of lean muscle and reduce my bodyfat... im going to do a lotta cardio on this crap
 
Eagleman003 said:
well consider that epistane is $40 and 1-ad is about $200.. ill go with the epistane.. im am going to run a 20/30/30/40... hopefully i can gain a good 8 pounds of lean muscle and reduce my bodyfat... im going to do a lotta cardio on this crap
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8 pounds in 4 weeks should be pretty easy to do on epistane.

Epistane pulses so good, you should look into doing it that way. Gains seem almost as fast as straight cycle and you can run longer with very little sides. Epistane apears to be ideal for pulsing.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/62121-how-pulse-orals.html
 
Werewolf said:
8 pounds in 4 weeks should be pretty easy to do on epistane.

Epistane pulses so good, you should look into doing it that way. Gains seem almost as fast as straight cycle and you can run longer with very little sides. Epistane apears to be ideal for pulsing.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/62121-how-pulse-orals.html
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I rather just run a 30 day cycle and take cycle support twice a day and really train hard and focus on those 30 days. If you think about it 2 months of a PH plus PCT is like 3 months of being on stuff and worrying about great dieting, training hard, etc. I rather just be on stuff for 8 weeks (that is including PCT) and bust my ass.

Im leaning towards epistane 20/30/30/40.. retain, sizeon and ATD post cycle and cycle support all the way through...

doing lots of cardio on cycle too to reduce bodyfat.
 
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