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Man Arrested for Having Big Muscles

jomi822 said:
the 3 branches were originally created to watch each other and prevent the other branches from becoming more powerful. They were not designed to work hand in hand as they do today.
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Exactly, and that's a large part of why so many of our founding fathers were so worried about the development of political parties and down right afraid of government expansion.

It's said a quite frequently these days, but never enough: our founding fathers are probably be rolling in their graves right now.
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Exactly, and that's a large part of why so many of our founding fathers were so worried about the development of political parties and down right afraid of government expansion.

It's said a quite frequently these days, but never enough: our founding fathers are probably be rolling in their graves right now.
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The founding father were naive, because constitutions don't enforce themselves. Be it seperation of powers or limitations on powers, the government is always serving as a judge in its own case on issues of constitutionality of its actions. It stands to reason that government power will increase over time then, so long as all you're depending on is for the government to limit itself. If I remember right John C. Calhoun predicted as much in his Disquisition on Government. In the end the only thing that limits the government's power is the people and their nonacceptance of its attempts to expand its power. And their passivity allows its expansion indefinitely, no matter what the constitution says or how powers are divided.
 
I'm sure they considered that. I'd hardly call them naive. James Madison was probably one of the most brilliant people to have ever walked the earth, and I'm sure he considered it. He probably just wasn't able to construct a self-enforcing constitution :lol: Seems like a tall order!
 
CDB said:
Don't count on it. The three branches of the government are more likely to work hand in hand to screw us than hold each other back. It's nice to see a judge striking down an unconstitutional law, but another can just as easily validate the law, or the congress can rewrite it to try and deal with the seperation of powers issues. If you can convince judges to 'stretch' the constitution to rid the world of the evils of drugs, you can find judges to do likewise with terrorism as the excuse.
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Mind you if judges didn't "stretch" the constitution think of the inequity in treatment that would exist between the races and the sexes.
 
beallio said:
Mind you if judges didn't "stretch" the constitution think of the inequity in treatment that would exist between the races and the sexes.
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If the judges didn't stretch the constitution there also wouldn't have been inequality in the first place.
 
beallio said:
Mind you if judges didn't "stretch" the constitution think of the inequity in treatment that would exist between the races and the sexes.
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The inequities between the races were disappearing long before the courts and way long before the politicians had the balls to do anything about it. Be that as it may, even if the courts were solely responsible for such advances, they are also responsible for all the nonsense that comes from expansions of federal power. The drug war itself is a massive abuse and stretching of the interstate commerce clause, and that's landed a couple million minorities in prision, many for non violent drug offenses. Looks to me like the stretching of the constitution has done as much to screw minorites as it has to 'help' them.
 
man the whole world is making idiots of themselves. knowledge is power, but doesn't mean people in power are knowledgeable. i'm sick of hearing steroids are bad blah blah, its the new fad the media has drawn up in order to make the public watch them. first of all people think when your 'on' you just want to hurt them, theres plenty of drugs that mess with your head and make you hurt people. i just wonder how big ron did it.
 
CDB said:
The inequities between the races were disappearing long before the courts and way long before the politicians had the balls to do anything about it. Be that as it may, even if the courts were solely responsible for such advances, they are also responsible for all the nonsense that comes from expansions of federal power. The drug war itself is a massive abuse and stretching of the interstate commerce clause, and that's landed a couple million minorities in prision, many for non violent drug offenses. Looks to me like the stretching of the constitution has done as much to screw minorites as it has to 'help' them.
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Inequality was originally written into the Constitution. Please see Art. I, sec. 9 and Art. IV, sec. 2.

I agree the Commerce Clause has been abused and continues to be abused. The 9th court's opinion in Gonzales v. Raich was overturned on precedent from Wickard v. Filburn, which is my opinion is utter BS. Especially if you look at the analysis done in the original opinion. They analyzed it using demand side economics, so much for using standard supply side analyses.

Also, you have to account for the industrial-prison complex as well. It's a huge industry, with good lobbyists much to my dismay.
 
This is getting out of control. Altough there's nothing new under the sun. It's already a well known fact that the swedish police recruits immigrants and discriminates ethnic swedes. Some of them is recruited without even passing the language tests. Some officers can't even pass the obligatory firearm tests. They still show up for work everyday. But hey, why worry, they're the police, which should protect and serve us, right? On the agenda right know is to suspect all the security officers that's doin' all the Sh*tty work the police dont want to do, get them unemployed and to free the real criminals. I myself worked as a security officer earlier, and had to switch job because i couldn't stand the fact working under those a*sholes. Welcome to sweden guys, more to come...
 
I just dont' understand why western politicians are on a mission to destroy western society... it doesn't make sense, but its damn-well happening!
 
im voting for whoever will use their power to put LESS laws on the books. quite frankly im sick and tired of people telling me how to live my wife, where to do it, how much money i can spend to do it. what i can be wearing while doing it, if i can let my kids do it, and just about every consideration to be had.

way too many laws on things that dont need to be controlled. what a crock
 
jomi822 said:
im voting for whoever will use their power to put LESS laws on the books. quite frankly im sick and tired of people telling me how to live my wife, where to do it, how much money i can spend to do it. what i can be wearing while doing it, if i can let my kids do it, and just about every consideration to be had.

way too many laws on things that dont need to be controlled. what a crock
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Dont you love how they like to try to protect us from ourselves? There is more knowledge of a specific subject on just this particular forum, than there is in the majority of the general public, including quite a few 'doctors'. It amazes me that the powers that be haven't figured out that we can know something, and be right, with out us having a 'degree' in one thing or another. Heh..you can still buy a gun and shoot your foot but how many of us don't even though we aren't skilled marksmen?

Mean while, my girlfriends crack head neighbor screams at her 8 year old kid every day about how ****ing worthless he is. She usually does this while shes either high, drunk or coming down which could be at any given moment through out any given day.

Who's life is being affected more? That kid will be lucky to make it to his early 20's let alone get an education to even give him a fair shake at getting away from his current situation ever....

I'm established. A big boy if you will...I make TONS of big boy decisions every day. Last time I checked I was still alive and well.
 
This is a very common assumption, even here in the US. That's all that I'm saying on the subject because I find it to be so ridiculous. Interesting little article, to say the least.
 
jomi822 said:
im voting for whoever will use their power to put LESS laws on the books. quite frankly im sick and tired of people telling me how to live my wife, where to do it, how much money i can spend to do it. what i can be wearing while doing it, if i can let my kids do it, and just about every consideration to be had.

way too many laws on things that dont need to be controlled. what a crock
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I even believe in the 'right to life,' as I do the 'right to death.' Take physician-assisted suicide, for example. Namely, Dr. Kevorkian. I don't think he ever should've been persecuted. His patients wanted to pass, but didn't feel they could do it themselves. He assisted them. We have the right to live our lives as we want, but if we decide that we want to die, then that should be our right as well. I guess, man really is the most dangerous animal in the world, seeing as how governments around the world are telling us how to live, what to drive, what to eat, what to wear, not to do this, but to do that, not to go there, but to stay here, and so on and so forth. I've broken so many laws, as we all have, but I've only been caught a couple of times. But that doesn't stop me from doing what I feel I want, must, or need to do. If the government or law enforcement don't like it, then tough luck. They can violate my rights and be unjust as much as they want, but that won't teach me any better.
 
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Damn, is there a safe haven left in this world for the man who wants to be left the heck alone ? lol....This world is full of morons that are in the drivers seat of the big law machine.


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I remember getting arrested for domestic violence (i.e. kicking my cheater ex's male friend's ass) and having to be escorted by two police. Then, when I violated the Order For Protection 2 weeks later, I had to get escorted by 2 state troopers and a city cop. The state police saw me and called for backup. It was quite hilarious. I had a cop on each arm.

When I think about it now, it's quite funny. They found pills in my pocket that were multivitamins. They were like, "What are those!? Are they illegal!? Huh? Huh?" I told them to test them if they didn't believe me that they were just multivitamins. They were like, "Nah, it's no big deal. We believe you."

Muscles are powerful weapons. They're wonderful to show off and can apparently be quite intimidating.
 
It's scary how some people think.

I got my protein powder delivered to me at work and the woman who signed for it kindly told me that bodyuilding supplements make your willy shrink!

Amazing.

I asked why she thought that and she said....

'This man i know used to take them and he rode his bike to work and in his cycling shorts was the tiniest buldge i've ever seen.'

But then you can't even argue about it because they are too stupid to reason with.


It's on a par with the clown who once told me to drink loads of beer until i get fat and then and only then, go to the gym to turn it all into muscle.......like his brother did.

Can we not jus eliminate stupid people from the gene pool?
 
CDB said:
With all the morons out there I can conceive of a judge locking up a suspected steroid user to make sure he didn't have an incident of 'roid rage in public.
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Coming soon to a High School or college near you. All of this hysteria would never have happened if Mark Mcguire kept his Andro hidden in his locker, darn him (lol).

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Am I the only one that suspects that the girl cop wanted to hook up with this dude, and he wouldn't have any of it; thus his trip to county? Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned and all.... I would not cross this out as a possibility, especially considering how fecked in the head most women cops are.
 
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