RA Jams on Palo's New Beta Thermo

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Luckily for me, it showed up while I was at the O! I woke up around 3pm today, had a long long weekend, needed to sleep sometime! Ok so anyways, its been about 45 minutes since I took ONE single cap of this new thermo, and I have to admit, I have some euphoria goin on, and I feel GREAT. I'm really wishing I could throw some more stuff in with this, because I would have a hay day on stims and this product.. LOL Over the weekend, I must have used 40 different stims/thermos and just seriously gallons of preworkouts/proteins/etc. So for this to affect me this much is saying something, especially since it's just 1 cap. I'll be taking another one in about 30minutes and go out and run some errands and whatnot.. so I will update tonight with thoughts on my second cap; so far:



Energy: 9/10, considering the circumstances, I'd be hard pressed to have more energy than I do now.



Focus: 3/10, this musta activated my ADD or something, cuz I can't stay focused on one thing for more than a few minutes.



Thermo effect: 5/10, no judgement yet.



Overall: 6/10, not bad for one cap guys, lovin it.
 
this should be good for someone who probably hit a lot of all-you-can eat buffets in vegas.

i'm enjoying my run w/this stuff.
unlike you, i have a low tolerance to stims and probably shouldn't have started off w/2 caps on an empty stomach.

who's are you with in your new avi?
 
Hank Vangut said:
this should be good for someone who probably hit a lot of all-you-can eat buffets in vegas.

i'm enjoying my run w/this stuff.
unlike you, i have a low tolerance to stims and probably shouldn't have started off w/2 caps on an empty stomach.

who's are you with in your new avi?
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That's Kevin Levrone, my boss ;)
 
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Alright so, day 2 and 3 updates, wow... Let's start with yesterday:

I woke up, took 2 caps, jumped in the shower, slayed a hood rat, and ran some errands. I took 1 more about 4 hours later, definitely feeling some thermo in there.. DEFINITELY.. *something* has my appetite under locks... I can't say the ingredients I don't think, but it definitely has me less hungry, which is a big feat, cuz well, just cuz.

TODAY... I woke up, took 2 caps, jumped in the shower, got out and realized I was wiping sweat and not water off my body.. HELLZ YEA! Ok, so today was my first day at 4 caps total, and I have to say, aside from being a bit perspirant, I am definitely in a better mood.. which is kewl. This morning I was feelin REALLY good, and I made some oatmeal with some of the new cinnamon protein from EST... talk about bangin.. I got to feeling like if I didn't force myself to eat something, I was gonna pass out, almost light headed, but more of a euphoria feeling.. hard to describe, it really is. anyways...


Thermo Effect: 9/10, definitely doing it's thing.

Energy Effect: 8/10, still goin strong, had to up the doses, no big deal.

Focus: 4/10, still wierd, wayyy ADD on this stuff.

Overall: 8/10, still lovin it.

*Side note: this stuff has my libido going crazy.. couldn't tell ya why, but ever since I started it, I've been rarin' to go at any given second.
 
all this with just one pill??

you were bouncing off the walls ey??

I can't wait to see the ingredients......
 
palo alto made their name with libido enhancers, not surprised. everything pal has made has worked well. good company. kick a$$ ra.:numbered:
 
thebigt said:
palo alto made their name with libido enhancers, not surprised. everything pal has made has worked well. good company. kick a$$ ra.:numbered:
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Gonna try Paravol as part of my PCT, also got one dose of Aspire?(Palo no?)to check out. Will give opinion for sure.Feel confident their products will deliver from what I have read.:bruce1:
 
Last night I made note on other forums about this crazy headache I had... Well, long story short, it was ruthless and 1/2 gallon of h2o and 11 hours of sleep fixed me right up. :bb2: Ok.. also, on this libido, its like more mental than physical... mentally I could round out every woman in the world in 2 days... physically I'm still about average... I have a bottle of aspire just in case though.. (ha like I'll need that this week..) hahah
 
RisingAgainst said:
Last night I made note on other forums about this crazy headache I had... Well, long story short, it was ruthless and 1/2 gallon of h2o and 11 hours of sleep fixed me right up. :bb2: Ok.. also, on this libido, its like more mental than physical... mentally I could round out every woman in the world in 2 days... physically I'm still about average... I have a bottle of aspire just in case though.. (ha like I'll need that this week..) hahah
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dude, libido IS a mental thing. its called want to, sounds like you got plenty.:trout:
 
Are headaches somewhat normal for you RA?I rarely get them but lately a little-maybe dess liver tabs(who knows) well hopefully the headaches won't reappear for ya.BTW how is the aspire/ I ordered a sample dose for the hell of it to see.Twinlab ultramale is good for either preworkout or pre_____. Wow that reminds me never got sample from AX sdng and I know I signed up in time. Gotta check that out. Macedaddy where are you?I don't wanna be a SDNG nonbeliever forever but buying a bottle when I don't know if I could tolerate yohimbe everyday doesn't make sense to me.
 
Simply put RA for me it was stims=headache. Don't take 5!!!! my blood pressure was crazy!!!! Going back to good ol' 1/1 split.
 
thebigt said:
palo alto made their name with libido enhancers, not surprised. everything pal has made has worked well. good company. kick a$$ ra.:numbered:
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:goodpost:

So far, the product Ive purchased the most has to be leviathan. I don't know why, but for some reason I keep buying it. I lost a bottle to my parents (who chucked it out) but I still have 2 bottles of that and incarnate hidden around my house. I need to add this thermo to my collection :twisted:
 
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Day 4!
The headache is starting to come back as I type, but I did quite a bit of deadlifting tonight, so it could be pressure?? It doesnt feel like a stim headache, but whatever?? Its nowhere near as bad as last nights.. I personally RARELY have a headache... so maybe it's BP, hard to say but I'm honestly not to worried about it. Umm I have to make note of mood.. my mood has been exceptionally good, I can only attribute this to this new product... Libido is leveling out, but doing so fairly high... I feel like a sex crazed madman... lol.. Another positive note is the intensity, I was hittin the deads quick tonight, (of course I went wayyy light, only went up to 275 tonight) but still hit fairly quick reps.

Weight as of this morning was 199... so I am down 5lbs, I attribute some of this to water/bloat that I had goin on over the weekend, and maybe the fact that I have been eating properly since I got home. lol!

Thermo Effect: 8/10, it's still working well.

Energy Effect: 8/10, still up..

Focus: 2/10, cannot focus whatsoever on this stuff...

Overall: 8/10, still lovin it. <3
 
Cellardude said:
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So far, the product Ive purchased the most has to be leviathan. I don't know why, but for some reason I keep buying it. I lost a bottle to my parents (who chucked it out) but I still have 2 bottles of that and incarnate hidden around my house. I need to add this thermo to my collection :twisted:
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Damn my parents never even found 40s i sometimes had in my closet nevermind other unmentionables. BTW whatever happened to your liver?Hope you are ok and hope you are careful with whatever supps you try.Peace
 
RisingAgainst said:
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Day 4!
The headache is starting to come back as I type, but I did quite a bit of deadlifting tonight, so it could be pressure?? It doesnt feel like a stim headache, but whatever?? Its nowhere near as bad as last nights.. I personally RARELY have a headache... so maybe it's BP, hard to say but I'm honestly not to worried about it. Umm I have to make note of mood.. my mood has been exceptionally good, I can only attribute this to this new product... Libido is leveling out, but doing so fairly high... I feel like a sex crazed madman... lol.. Another positive note is the intensity, I was hittin the deads quick tonight, (of course I went wayyy light, only went up to 275 tonight) but still hit fairly quick reps.

Weight as of this morning was 199... so I am down 5lbs, I attribute some of this to water/bloat that I had goin on over the weekend, and maybe the fact that I have been eating properly since I got home. lol!

Thermo Effect: 8/10, it's still working well.

Energy Effect: 8/10, still up..

Focus: 2/10, cannot focus whatsoever on this stuff...

Overall: 8/10, still lovin it. <3
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it looks good. the focus part is what concerns me. are you just overstimmed or spazed out? cant afford to be unfocused at work. overstimmed i can live with.
 
thebigt said:
it looks good. the focus part is what concerns me. are you just overstimmed or spazed out? cant afford to be unfocused at work. overstimmed i can live with.
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I honestly think I have attention defecit disorder really really bad.. and I think this just triggers it.. I have bad focus anyways.. focus XT and yellow nEuphoria are the only things that actually put me in my place.
edit: Rx stuff works nicely to.. lol
 
RisingAgainst said:
I honestly think I have attention defecit disorder really really bad.. and I think this just triggers it.. I have bad focus anyways.. focus XT and yellow nEuphoria are the only things that actually put me in my place.
edit: Rx stuff works nicely to.. lol
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alcar in high doses spazes me out bad. its the only thing ive found that does it.
 
All this talk about spacing out makes me think about when they sold GHB OTC. Got flagged from a bar without drinking at all. I fell asleep standing in the bathroom stall while taking a leak.Lol.No joke that stuff was great for sleep though.
 
BTW naturally stims are great for focus-i used to take eph mixed prods like thermodrene i think it was called-prolab i think? before exams in college. Only prob was I wrote so fast and so much that it was sloppy but damn that stuff helped me remember every last detail.
 
RA hope the focus thing works out for you, if it is that much of a pain normally maybe get it checked out or meds, not trying to pry or be a pain. Either way good luck with this log and all. Peace
 
cardiffgiant said:
RA hope the focus thing works out for you, if it is that much of a pain normally maybe get it checked out or meds, not trying to pry or be a pain. Either way good luck with this log and all. Peace
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normally I'd agree, but I've dealt with it my whole life man, I'm not about to spend cash for a doctor now, It's probably not even directly related to PALs new product, but more of a combo of extreme stress/stims/add... LOL
 
Yeah insurance for me and my wife is 3500/year and all i did was go to doc when sick and i found out later on there is a deductible which would have me going 8x before they pay anything for urgent care(stupid AZ BS). Insurance changed since last time (coverage that is)and a test i should have gotten done I put off(last time -same insurance cost $100,this time maybe $500). So even with insurance it blows. if not using reg RXs i would drop maybe cause I get more aggravated thinking I'm gonna be covered and still have to lay out a bunch of money after paying premiums.
 
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Yesterday and Today... I tried adding in some Focus XT, and voíla! I have much better focus. Dosing is 2when I wake, and 1 a bit later... so far that's rockin BIG TIME. There's definitely a thermo effect and definitely a euphoric effect.. kinda like a nootropic. I am thoroughly pleased so far...

Thermo Effect: 8/10, it's still working well.

Energy Effect: 7/10, goin down a bit, could be from some stuff I've been stressin.

Focus: 8/10, focus XT makes me feel 200% better. ;)

Overall: 8/10, Definitely a good product thus far...
 
how's the beta compare to leviathan energy wise?
 
thebigt said:
how's the beta compare to leviathan energy wise?
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Energy wise? I'd say about even.. the big difference here is I get more of a thermo effect from whatever I'm taking now with a nice euphoric effect... levi gives me energy and what feels like a small strength boost and I dont have any focus issues with it.
 
RisingAgainst said:
Energy wise? I'd say about even.. the big difference here is I get more of a thermo effect from whatever I'm taking now with a nice euphoric effect... levi gives me energy and what feels like a small strength boost and I dont have any focus issues with it.
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3 rpm/2 levi/1 reset ad had me rockin. sounds like 1 beta/2 levi would be a nice match.
 
RisingAgainst said:
I will actually try that on my last day, I'll experiment with the last 2.. Beta/Levi and Beta/RPM reset is a given.
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let me know how it goes, real interested in these combo's. lost any weight since the 5 pounds at the start?
 
Any problems sleeping? Just thought to ask cause I'm zonked cause of not enough sleep lately.Got to the gym earlier and it was great though-had some help with stim x sample and eph and coffee. Macedaddy came through with samples(stimx&SDNG)btw. Thanks Mace.
 
I don't weigh myself often, I'll report back when I do though.

I sleep like a baby on this stuff actually.. which is unsual as I have insomnia. I have increased my intake on a few minerals/vits though as well to because of my new diet... so hard to say the TRUE cause... but ya, no issues sleeping on this new beta.
 
cardiffgiant said:
Any problems sleeping? Just thought to ask cause I'm zonked cause of not enough sleep lately.Got to the gym earlier and it was great though-had some help with stim x sample and eph and coffee. Macedaddy came through with samples(stimx&SDNG)btw. Thanks Mace.
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man, if you took an old stimx sample pack/ephedra/coffee no wonder you couldnt sleep. im a stim junkie and that would have my heart skipping. damn dude, the old stimx samples was one of the strongest otc stims you can get.
 
thebigt said:
man, if you took an old stimx sample pack/ephedra/coffee no wonder you couldnt sleep. im a stim junkie and that would have my heart skipping. damn dude, the old stimx samples was one of the strongest otc stims you can get.
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lol ya old Stim X was pretty good for me as well, but the black ones, not the white ones. Ephedrine doesn't pack as much punch as a kitchen sink though... so lol.. well I'll leave it at that!
 
RisingAgainst said:
lol ya old Stim X was pretty good for me as well, but the black ones, not the white ones. Ephedrine doesn't pack as much punch as a kitchen sink though... so lol.. well I'll leave it at that!
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i think the best ones where red/black, not sure. but i would sure buy some if i had the chance.:cheers:
 
thebigt said:
man, if you took an old stimx sample pack/ephedra/coffee no wonder you couldnt sleep. im a stim junkie and that would have my heart skipping. damn dude, the old stimx samples was one of the strongest otc stims you can get.
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Lol I took the supps after not being able to sleep anymore-6hrs last night,which is not enough for me.I didn't sleep enough a couple days ago either. I don't think I had the old stimx cause I didn't wanna mention this but here goes. After getting up I ate a little and took stim x and laid back down and probably could have fell asleep but wanted to hit the gym before work today so I can watch jets/giants tomorrow. Anyways i laid in bed for a bit then got up and only took a lil eph(12.5mg)cause i think the eph leaves me feeling like crap the next day a lot(haven't been using it for this reason.BTW I have fallen asleep before after taking old AST eph 25mg.Well I think clen(Decent dose) may be better for preworkout anyways but don't want high bp right now so in desperation though hit up a lil eph. Now I'm half dead but workout was real good and may have not just been stims cause i was far from amped.Try eph rockstar and big dose of coffe. That is kickin but haven't done in a while cause it does get crazy with the stims.
 
I wouldn't mind laying off stims a bit and stick to a little coffe only but it would be nice to do non-stim focusing agents.Just had some tetrazene50(with caffeine)and a lil coffee to hopefully get me home from work tonight in a bit.Shoulda brought that other sample of stim x huh Bigt?Lol.I wouldn't mind trying this product your logging now RA.
 
cardiffgiant said:
I wouldn't mind laying off stims a bit and stick to a little coffe only but it would be nice to do non-stim focusing agents.Just had some tetrazene50(with caffeine)and a lil coffee to hopefully get me home from work tonight in a bit.Shoulda brought that other sample of stim x huh Bigt?Lol.I wouldn't mind trying this product your logging now RA.
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try some reset ad. i had to run it for 2 1/2 months but i finally got my stim tolerance under control. even a cup of coffee gives me a lift now. btw i will try this product that ra is testing when it comes up at np.
 
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Sunday
Today is my halfway point for this log... I'm enjoying this product a lot. Thermo effect is still there, the euphoria is droppin off slightly. I'm really diggin the focus xt with it, it makes it complete IMO.

Monday
Felt really good today, and really bad, I started my CKD back up again today, I hate it, but its well worth it. Awesome time in the gym tonight, I did some really heavy arms, scared all the high school kids away, it was sick. Been sweatin like a pig, and the headaches have been hanging around... maybe high bp?? I should check that...


Thermo Effect: 9/10, I'm sweating just sitting here, that's nuts.



Energy Effect: 9/10, full of energy today!



Focus: 9/10, the combo of focus xt and this product are awesome!



Overall: 9/10, Definitely in my top 5 haha

edit: let's keep side discussion down out of respect for PAL guys
 
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Hell yes... that's all I wanna say hehehe

I completed day 2 of my CKD today, today is day 9 for the thermo. I feel amazing today. I did legs, went super heavy, had no issues, even set the bar a bit higher with some lock out PR's on squats. (for those wondering how much of a BAMF I am, 455 for 10 on lockouts starting halfway down with bars set and powering up) I finished up the squats and went right into high paced high intensity extensions/curls all single legged with FREE weight. Felt great. Anyways, I feel leaner, dunno if I look it or not, and have yet to jump on the scale so we'll see!

Thermo Effect: 9/10, felt stronger today!

Energy Effect: 8/10, good energy still, needed a boost of caffeine today, I ran out of gas big time.

Focus: 4/10, didn't do focus XT today, it suffered a bit.

Overall: 7/10, was really good today, and I didn't get a headache *knocks on wood*.
 
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